SID: Okay, we’ve been talking about the secret place.
FRANCIS: Yes.
SID: Describe to me what is the secret place?
FRANCIS: All right. I believe the secret place is the point of contact where the Holy Spirit and my human spirit are engaged. Unless you’re born of the Spirit — those that are born in the Spirit, that which is born of the Spirit is Spirit, and so that union of my spirit being regenerated to the Holy Spirit. But let me just say the way to the Holy Place, and we can say the way to the Holy Place is Jesus and that would be true. But I also noticed that there’s a lethargy, there’s a passivity. Christians, too many of us give our life to the Lord in a momentary experience at an altar, but we don’t really hunger for what else there can be, how much more of God there is. That’s the biggest enemy to getting into the Holy Place, is that we think where we are is good enough. You know what I’m talking about, where I am.
SID: And there is so much more if you only knew, eye has not seen. This is what God says to you: “Eye has not seen, ear has not even heard all that God has in store for you.”
FRANCIS: Amen. And it goes on where Paul says, “But to us, the Lord revealed unto the Spirit because the Spirit searches all things, even the depths of God.” Come on. The depths of God, that’s the limitless reality of the Almighty, the Spirit that we have in us that we are born of. Jesus is jealous for that Spirit because he wants to bring us into that fullness. So but we need the disciple of it all.
SID: What you call the secret place, the place of immunity, what do you mean by that?
FRANCIS: I mean if we live in there, all the promises from Psalm 91 are “yea” and “amen.” They are true.
SID: And you also use another term that I read in the Bible, I don’t hear anyone talk about it, “Lord, excavate my heart.” Explain. Isn’t that a good term, “excavate my heart.”
FRANCIS: When I pray, often I start with a simple statement that says, “Holy Spirit, lead me into the presence of Jesus. Take me to where I hear his voice. Scan me so he can tell me if there’s any hurtful thing in me or any presumptuous thing. It’s the beginning of the real steps into the presence of the Lord. The sacrifices of God are broken in a contrite heart. That breaking of the outer men, the old man, and when I say the old man I’m not talking about your husbands, ladies. I’m talking about the thing that we used to be, the thing that we don’t like in ourselves, that thing that tries to offer protection, but it’s hostile to the ways of God. But now we’re on that journey inward. We’re in that journey where the Holy Spirit can be begin to speak, begin to show us what means to change, begin to, was I harsh to my wife this morning? Was I unconscious of the need of my daughter? You know what I mean. I have a point, I have a place, a mirror, if you will where the living presence of the Lord begins, he can speak to me about what needs to change in me. It could speak to me with what needs to be healed in me. And the 91st Psalm is telling us that it’s anything we come to the Lord with he’ll be there and he’ll meet us there, and he’ll heal us there.
SID: Francis, when we come back I want you to share how many years ago you had one drop of God’s Glory and what is about ready to hit Planet Earth. We’ll be right back.
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