Sid: Now a lot of you don’t know this, but we get so many wonderful testimonies in of people that have been listening to our radio show, our television show, and they are instantly healed through words of knowledge. For instance I have this in front of my right now it says, “I just wanted to tell you Sid that you called out neck pain and God right away touched my neck.” And many of you are waiting for me to say words of knowledge, and I don’t say word’s of knowledge unless God gives them to me. But I can tell you something I can give you a miracle of knowledge. What do I mean by a miracle of knowledge? I believe that there is such a presence of God pouring out this broadcast right now that any, if you take your hand and put on your body and when I pray believe that you are healed of anything, you will be. Put your hand on your body if you need to be physically healed, or even mentally healed, if you need a miracle of any kind in the name of Yeshua, in the name of Jesus, I command spirits of infirmities to leave, spirit of deafness leave in Jesus name. Spirit of pain leave in Jesus name, I command you to be healed in the name of Jesus. My guest is Bruce Van Natta, and Bruce and I yield to the Spirit of God, that’s what I love about your book Bruce. It’s a brand new book it’s called “Saved by Angels.” I would imagine when unsaved people read this they end up getting saved, but when believer’s read this and this was what happened to me my Spiritual senses are just intensified and I begin to recognize God in everything. You identified seven areas that God speaks to us, tell me a little bit about this.
Bruce: Well, when we look at the Bible and we go through and look at every instance the Lord communicated with or to someone in the Bible we could put those in seven categories or methods as you mentioned and it’s not trying to put God in a box it’s just trying to help understand the way that He works more.
Sid: And you know after you give examples and you explain these methods that God operates then you force us to remember how God operated with us in these areas previously. What I find is when you rehearse what God did in the past it increases what He’s going to do in the future.
Bruce: Yes, yeah it’s a faith builder when we look at what the Lord has done in the past, I mean how many times in the Bible didn’t they make memorials to show and it just builds the faith for the future generations, and even for us further on in our life in our walk.
Sid: Give me a category and then an example of how God spoke to you.
Bruce: Well, one of the best chapters is when God speaks to us through the Holy Spirit those thoughts that come into our mind as you said, sometimes they are audible and sometimes they are not.
Sid: By the way I have to say this and I pray that God change it, but my thoughts are normally they appear as if they are my thoughts rather than an audible voice. In fact I’ve only heard God’s audible voice two times in my entire walk with the Lord. Whereas most people think if I don’t hear it every day I’m abnormal. Now I believe that it’s going to increase, but most of the time when I hear God’s voice it’s just an inner thought.
Bruce: Yeah, and we have to keep in mind that you know that we’ve been receiving these inputs. It goes back to that old cartoon little red guy on one shoulder and little angel on the other shoulder. And we’ve been receiving those inputs since the time that we were babies and so they become second nature to us so it’s easy for us to get confused and not have the discernment when God speaks into our life.
Sid: Well, give me an example.
Bruce: I guess one in referring to Holy Spirit. I’m driving along the road this one day on the way to a job site, I drive by a couple crosses in the ditch next to a railroad track and the thought comes to my mind that I should stop and read the name on the crosses. So I slowed my truck down but I couldn’t, one cross was freshly painted the other was not, it was faded. I couldn’t read the names from my truck and I slowed down and I couldn’t read it, but I didn’t want to be late getting to this customers site so I went on my way to work because I had my own agenda going. And so I finished work and at the end of the day I had to drive back past the spot again, now again I’ve got a time schedule that I’m working against because I had to get home, take a shower, eat supper, get to church for a meeting. And so as I come to this spot this thought comes to my mind again that I need to stop and read the names on these crosses so it just nagged me and nagged me and so I come to a stop and I still couldn’t make it out from my truck so I quick got out, ran on the edge of the ditch, read the names on the crosses. They meant nothing to me, I did not recognize them at all, jumped back into my truck muttering to myself that how dumb I am for wasting the time when I got to get going or I’m going to be late. So I get to church, I you know I take a shower, eat, get to church and pastor, it’s an evangelism meeting and often times He’ll set up appointments for us to go visit people. And so this particular night he had made two different appointments and there was a couple different teams of us there. We breakup into teams of two and he handed my partner this card and on this card he gives us background information like name, address, phone number and the reason why and he’ll tell us a little bit of back ground as to why we’re going to make this call. And so he starts to explain to me and my partner that we’re going to a visit that hadn’t been to church for awhile and he’s talking and my partner said, “Why hasn’t she been to church, do you know?” And he said, “Yeah, her daughter was in an auto accident and after the accident just quit coming to church.” And my partner handed me the card and I read the last name of the woman, and about that time the Holy Spirit just grabbed me by the throat, by the heart I should say, and I just started to cry and I knew and I could barely get it out, Pastor what was the daughter’s name? And come to find out it was the name of the cross that I had read on the cross that day. And so I was crying and I told pastor and I told the small group what had happened and the part that was making me cry was I almost didn’t stop. In fact the Lord told me several time and I almost didn’t stop because I had my own agenda. There was other things in my mind that were competing with God’s voice and so I almost pushed it out and silenced it by just ignoring it. And yet we went to that meeting that night and we you know we small talked a little bit and then I cut right the chase and I told the woman that happened that day and she looked at me square in the eye and I could tell she was measuring, she was trying to decide if she should believe me, and that she should believe what I was telling her. And all of a sudden she popped out this question, she said, “Why would God stop you to have you read that cross today?” And it’s a good thing that the Holy Spirit was talking because I had no answer in my flesh, but the Holy Spirit spoke and I instantly popped out the answer, I said, “God wanted me to stop and read that name so that I could come here and talk to you tonight and tell you that He remembers your daughter, he remembers you, He loves you and He know exactly what’s going on in your life. He remembers it from then, and He’s just reaching out His love to you through us and He just wants you to feel loved and know that you’re loved. And she started crying and I started crying. You know we do a lot of home visits and I have to tell you that this is one of the most powerful home visits I’ve ever been on and it was because God went before.
Sid: And you almost rejected that thought thinking you had bigger and better things to do than to stop and look at the name on a cross.
Bruce: Sure, sure I didn’t decipher that it was God speaking to me, it was just a thought. As you said, “Just a thought that came to my mind, I didn’t realize that it was God speaking because there was no thunder, there was no lightning. And you know that’s easy for us to expect those things to be loud and spectacular. When often times most often it’s like Elijah in the Old Testament, God spoke to Him in a whisper not in the earthquake, not in the fire, through the whisper.
Sid: Now, did God show you what will happen this week on radio as people listen to us?
Bruce: Well, you know you started one of these shows and you were talking about there’s anointing on this book and every time I’ve heard you say that I have to tell you there’s a vision that the Lord gave me. This was as the book was in production before it was ever released, but while it was being printed the Lord gave me a vision one day when I was praising and worshipping and what it was it was a printing press and as the books were coming off the printing press He was touching each one, He was physically anointing every book as it came off the printing press. And as I saw it I was praising the Lord and I was saying, “Thank you God for that,” and you know He was speaking. And then the next vision was that physical like earmuffs, cold weather earmuffs they were being removed from people; and there was blinders like horse blinders on people’s eyes; and in this vision I was watching those blinders being removed. And the Lord is speaking and He’s saying that “He’s just going to use this, just another tool in His tool box that He can use to show people how much He loves them.” And by reading it people’s blinders will be taken off their eyes so that can see in the spiritual and that the earmuffs will be taken off so that their ears will be unplugged so that they can hear, they can hear Him. And so my prayer and what I feel the Lord is saying is that He will affect people in that way you know through the book, through this radio ministry, through whatever avenue that He chooses to release this message.
Sid: Well, what I’m finding is I hear God voice, I mean I’d been used in the supernatural as long as I’ve been a believer, but there was like an increase as I read your book. So I believe that vision you had of the printing press is of God.
Sid: And I believe that there are people that are saying “Oh God I want to hear Your voice and He’s shouting at them, but they’re dismissing it because they don’t realize it’s His voice…”