Sid: My guest by way of telephone is Mary Jo Clouse I’m speaking to her at her home in Lake Mary, Florida. I’ve got a question for you, is something holding you back from enjoying success from enjoying prosperity? Does chronic illness rob you of precious time and energy? Have closest relationships perhaps with your spouse or your children or your in-laws. Have close relationships fallen apart in spite your best efforts? Are you bound by mistakes in the past. Well I believe based on my study of the Bible and reading her new book called “Getting Free” that there could be generational curses that are causing these things. And just as there are curses that are passed on from generation to generation and if you don’t do something about it your children and your grandchildren are going to go through the same problems you’ve gone through. But if you do something about it you can start a whole new line of blessings for your family. And Mary Jo I was astounded on two individuals where they traced the ancestry one an ungodly atheist and another a great preacher of the word of God. For instance this a man Max Jukes, J-U-K-E-S, who was an atheist you actually found that they had traced 560 of his descendants what were the results of his descendants lives?
Mary Jo: Well 310 died paupers 150 of them were criminals and 7 were murdered, 100 were known drunkards and more than half of the women were in in prostitution and Max Jukes cost the US government 1.25 million dollars in the 1900 century.
Sid: Now that astounds me does that astound you as you’ve studied curses passing on from generation to generation?
Mary Jo: It is very typical when you study curses and you see the devastation that it brings in life.
Sid: Well let’s look at the flip side of that lets look at someone that many of us have heard Jonathan Edwards the great preacher. He had 1394 descendants that were traced what happened with his descendants?
Mary Jo: Well 295 of them graduated from college and 13 became college presidents and 65 of them were college professors. 3 were US Senate office 3 were elected to the state governors, 30 were judges, 100 were lawyers, 75 became officers in the military and 100 of them were missionaries, preachers and authors. 8 of them held some form of public office, 3 were mayors of large cities, l was a controller of US Treasure and l was Vice Present of the United States. And they cost the US government absolutely not one dime.
Sid: Well if that doesn’t convince some of you I don’t know what will. Now something also that really astounded me in your book is how some of the generational sins can pass to you not just from your ancestors but from your husbands or your wife’s ancestors. Tell me what happened to you Mary Jo.
Mary Jo: Well George and I married we were neither one Christians and we know that from once we started studying the word that we are a three part being that we’re spirit, soul and being. So we felt like that evidently when we got married that we only we got married in our soulish nature and our body and our spirit even though they came together it was not a holy union. I’m not saying that God didn’t honor the marriage I’m saying that I had demonic forces in me and he had demonic forces in him and that there was no bloodline of Jesus Christ to protect me from any evil that he had or any evil that I had because the blood of Jesus is our protection. Walking free of sin is our protection and so when we got married there had never been any cancer in the female organs in my family. In fact I was having female problems before we got married and that smear was just a plus one there was not any sign of cancer whatsoever. But after I got married I went back for my exam and it says that there was tissues of cancer. And it was years later after when I started studying this that I realized that his mother had died of cancer when she was 38 years of age of cancer of the uterus. And so when he and I got married that familiar spirit that demon spirit that was familiar with his bloodline had been passed from him to me and that was how come the cancer cells were showing up in the tests that they were doing suspicion of cancer because when they did the surgery I didn’t have the cancer. And I fully believe that had I not had gone to my Christian friends and had been prayed for healing I thought I got a miracle at that time. I think that there probably was more to it than what showed up later because I think the prayer prevented me prevented the cancer I think it stopped it.
Sid: How as you explain in the book that when we’re involved in iniquity and sin or one of our ancestors was how do these demons pass through from generation to generation, how does this work?
Mary Jo: Well it says that when the unclean spirit goes out it goes out into dry places seeking a home and finding none it says “I will go back into my generation, he said I will go back into my house.” And that word house is the same as that generation. “I’ll go back into my house where I came from.” And when he came back he brought 7 back with him and 7 in scripture we know is completion. And 8 is new beginnings so seven demons seven spirits of iniquity and brought them back in and come to your house and found your house clean swept varnished and empty and full of the Holy Ghost and could not come back into that house. And he said “Hey I’ll go down to Mary Jo’s daughter she’s you know she’s maybe not living right,” I’m just using that as an illustration. And I’ll go to her and I’ll see what I can put on her I’ll see how many of these sins that I can visit on her. And so that’s what he’s looking for that’s why it says the blessings go to the thousands but the curses go to the 4th generation. So that familiar spirit is familiar with your bloodline it knows where that weakness is it knows where that sin is, it knows what kind of sickness is like. When you go to the doctor the first thing that they’ll ask you “Do you have any heart disease in your family, sugar diabetes, high blood pressure, cholesterol problems?” You know that there certain questions that…
Sid: So they see the connection but they don’t see how that problem got there in the first place they don’t understand the demonic aspect they just recognize that there’s patterns from generation to generation.
Mary Jo: Well you know the devil is never had an original he always copies. So what he does he does go from generation to generation and in the natural we can recognize that. But if we recognize and they can do a lot for you by recognizing that I mean they know basically how to treat you but in the word of God if you know all of these things is that you do you recognize that you have a problem, you repent for your sins and the sins of your ancestors make sure that the bitterness and unforgiveness is not there and tell it it cannot stay and get away from you it has no right to be in your body.
Sid: Actually you triggered another thought what about a good doctor that gives you a diagnosis but it’s like almost the extreme of what could happen and in effect could this be a curse?
Mary Jo: Yes that could be that could be a diagnosis see what he said was the fact of that particular problem. But the truth is that God’s word says that by His stripes we are healed and greater is He that is in me than he that is in the world. So if I want to accept the fact that the doctor gave me which is the diagnosis which brings a diagnostic curse then that is what I will live under is that curse. But if I want to bring it back and say okay this is a fact but the truth of God word says that I can renounce this thing I can fight this thing through the blood of the lamb and the word of God and you know bring it before God. Now I’m just saying don’t do what the doctors tell you to do because there is many times that I have taken medications and still take it from time to time now for different things. But as a general rule the weapons of your warfare are not carnal but are mighty through God to pulling down strongholds and that’s a stronghold that has been put in your life by the devil not God because He’s the God that healeth thee. And yeah there’s nothing too hard for Him.
Sid: But you know I’m looking in your book on page 42 and 43 and you list 53 demons and the areas how they react in the body. And you know the thing that I like so much about your teaching on this is you teach on the blood and the authority of the name of Jesus and it’s almost like 1 and 1 = 2 it’s so logical. For instance if people have problems with addictions of passivity or sleepiness or insomnia or despondency or despair or thoughts of suicide or tiredness or weariness and lazy or compulsive eating or crying binges or heart break or condemnation or embarrassment I’m just reading these at random here but emotional problems, medical problems, physical problems, shyness, it goes on and on, passivity, indifference, lethargy, fear, fear of rejection, frigidly, adultery. Now a lot of these things are not spirits and not curses but a lot are how do you know the differences?
Mary Jo: If you’ve repented of your sins and you pray and you plead the blood and you’ve read the word and you’re still harassed and you still cannot get victory over it then that gives you a good indication that it’s a demonic force that it’s a bloodline iniquity in your family. The bloodline iniquity means a bend in your nature like Max Jukes family had a bend in their nature toward sinning. No one in that family evidently no one in that family ever got saved. And that if anyone at any point of time in that family had gotten saved than they had an inroad to stop that generational curse. And so when we don’t stop the generational curse it goes on and on. And then the devil is not a respecter of persons.
Sid: Mary Jo we’re out of time.
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