Sid: You need to be red hot for the Messiah and I promise you this week my guest will cause you for go forward from whether you are to closer greater heart, greater intimacy with God than ever before. My guest, Pastor Ron Philips and Ron comes from a Southern Baptist background, good Southern Baptist background. But He went to a meeting which really changed his whole paradyne on things and things really got crunchy for you.
Ron: That’s right.
Sid: One evening right after the meeting; tell me about that.
Ron: Yes, I was a successful Southern Baptist Pastor, but at the point of really quitting because I just felt like I was going through the motions you know, preparing sermons. I wasn’t seeing a qualitative change in our people’s lives; outwardly successful inwardly miserable spiritually.
Sid: There would have to be a lot of Pastors even listening to us right now in that category.
Ron: And I had lost my intimacy with God and it never been where it needed to be, but I knew that I was saved and called, but man I was operated in the energy of the flesh. I went to Glorieta, New Mexico to a Southern Baptist Camp Ground and really I was there to speak to close the meeting on the next morning. And I went over night and I heard a woman speak named Lynnette Drumright and her husband had died and she had a spiritual awakening at that time for the International Mission Board. And she talked about how when her husband died she fell in the sweet arms of the Holy Spirit and how His Baptism and power in her life had sustained her through this. And so I went back in my room and fell across the bed weeping because I had really planned to quit and go to work selling real estate for my brother in Florida; and I just was miserable. And at midnight I heard my name called audibly, audibly; and I thought someone was at the door playing a trick on me so I went to the door and nobody was there. I laid back down the second time and then a third time. At this point I knew something was going on and like Eli told Samuel I said, “Speak Lord your servant hears.” And the Lord said, “I’m here I want to bless you.” You got to understand, I was a sensationalist, I believed that all these gifts had ceased and that we just had the Bible and a lot of this stuff wasn’t supposed to happen anymore and man I had my cage rattled.
Sid: Since I have never been in that type of situation it’s I guess we make do with what we have, but on the inside looking out right now I don’t see how someone makes do without understanding the full supernatural of God.
Ron: I don’t know either it’s a miserable experience; it really is because you know you come up with what you have. I can honestly tell you Sid that there were occasions when I was watching preachers back then on television even then or like Oral Roberts and I would feel a hunger and late at night alone I would feel a tugging in my heart. I knew that there was more, I knew there was more, and that night I read Psalm 92:10 “I shall be anointed with oil. And the Holy Spirit fell on me in that room that is the only way I know to express it; I spoke in tongues; I lifted up my hands. Now, you got to understand, I didn’t even believe in lifting up hands, I mean I was so square that’s the only way I know to put it; I had a little bitty box a Baptist box that I lived in and God kicked every wall down, the roof off of it. Two hours later I went into a I call a trance or went out, fell out in Spirit, whatever you want to call it, but when I came to I was standing in that little single bed with both of my hands over my head and my life has never been the same. That was a little over twenty years ago and God moved me into the realm of the supernatural quickly and the first thing that happened when I got home is I was called to the hospital to help a woman and she was demonized. And I didn’t know what to do, and knew I knew enough then to know that I had supernatural help and a couple staff members we cast thirteen demons out of this woman.
Sid: This doesn’t sound like this Southern Baptist Pastor!
Ron: I didn’t tell anyone about it right away. Ha-ha-ha
Sid: Ha-ha-ha.
Ron: But the anointing, God began to, I mean the whole supernatural world in 1989 opened up to me and man I staggered in.
Sid: Let me, I’m just kind of curious though, “Had anyone ever taught you about praying tongues? Had you ever heard people pray in tongues?”
Ron: One time, no never a little bit on television maybe, I’d seen a couple of they, and I’m not talking about the contemporary guys now; I’m talking about the Rex Humbard, Oral Roberts, those I knew a little bit about it. But I had never been taught, when all of this broke out in my life and the Brownsville, later Brown’s people would say well he’s been to Brownsville, he’s been to Toronto, hadn’t been any where nobody in our church had.
Sid: Let me also take you back to that night when you heard God audibly call your name and did He give you instructions at that time?
Ron: Yes, He said, “He said, I want you to read the Psalms you’ve been reading every day,” I had a disk on the of reading five Psalms a day and this was April 19 and so it was Psalm 91 to 95. When I got to 92:10 and God knew the scripture was mine, I believe in the inherency of scripture and God knew that that was the paradyne that I had to have a scripture. And man when that thing hit me it became rest and refreshment just like Isaiah prophesized to me. I would to back, I mean it cost me most of my friends. We’ve had coming and going in the church for years as people left and others came and some came back to receive what God had, but it’s been a supernatural powerful experience. And I’m sixty-two now and I wouldn’t trade what the Holy, I just wish I hadn’t been forty plus years old when I wish it had happened earlier. And I’m not questioning God on that because I’m sure he knocked at my door and I was so busy being a Baptist preacher I wasn’t listening.
Sid: And what I find interesting is the Lord knew that you were going to read those five Psalms, that’s why He told you to read Psalms. So when you got to Psalm 92:10 it reads “I shall be an anointed with fresh oil.” Is that when you started speaking in tongues?
Ron: Hallelujah, yes Sir. Glory to God, man I’m feeling something now, I’m just telling you.
Sid: Now, you told me before we went on the air that you have some company in the studio right now; what’s your company?
Ron: Angels are here with me, I have an angel called Noble, it sounds weird know, but he came to me.
Sid: Well, actually you had just told me about that because I’ve got your brand new book, “Our Invisible Allies” subtitle “The Definitive Guide on Angels and how they work behind the scenes.” And just as you finished the manuscript on April 19th 2009 a large angel, visited you in your bedroom. Take it from there.
Ron: Big, golden, he’s so tall his head, and I have nine – ten foot ceilings in the bedroom, we have one of those upward roofs in there and he had to bow his head over. But you know, no fear came on me and I guess I noticed that my red light on my alarm had not been disturbed and nobody had come into the house. It was like fear not was in my spirit immediately and he hit me on the leg just like what you see in the book of Acts when Peter was in jail and an angel came and woke him up; hit me on the leg and he said, “I want to speak to you and let’s go down to your study.” And I have a study, a small study in my basement that’s kind of my prayer closet, secret place and so we went down there and this angel he began to just talk to my spirit because I mean we’ve been through twenty years of questions and attacks. And even though we’re solid doctrinal called an occult just because we believe everything in the Bible. And I came out of seminary; you know I had an earned doctorate from New Orleans Seminary. I studied the Greek, New Testament all my life and I know that it teaches these things and we were attacked and then just I was weary you know with ministers and others attacking this great wonderful church that God let me pastor for thirty years now. And that angel said, “That’s over today, I’m stopping anybody that speaks against this church I will defend you for now on; don’t worry about it and you’re going to find favor.”
Sid: And I find it interesting that the angel identified his name, what was his name?
Ron: His name was Noble and they said that right before he left and immediately I thought of nobility. Here’s an angel of favor and nobility and Sid even you calling to talk about this book because I had been attacked by the devil by demons. Well, now they’re really going to know that you’re a nut. I mean I had a lot of intellectual pride in me before I was baptized in the Holy Spirit; so the enemy came at me that way and for God to send such a powerful angel to come and I think your calling me to talk about this book.
Sid: Well, look at the timing of all of this. You know you made a statement that I have in my notes here. And it’s very very important that we really genuinely I think that anyone with half a brain recognizes were in the end times and of the last of the last days. I mean the midnight hour’s about ready to strike and human options are before our very eyes; I’ve never seen time moving so fast. Human options are beginning to dwindle, and it we, if we don’t learn to partner with the angels we won’t accomplish what God has for us on earth let alone our basic needs.
Ron: That’s exactly right, that’s why an entire section of the book is called “How to activate Angels.” See I believe the unemployment scandal isn’t here in the United States and the western world, it’s around the throne of God where angels are wondering why we’re not obeying Hebrews 1:14 “That they’re here to serve those of us who shall be heirs of salvation.” And you know Sid that word serve there is, litigious we get out word liturgy from it, but it literally comes from Laos, man and ergon word. And ergonomics is work that’s made easy. An ergon work in the Bible, wherever you find that word in the Bible its God taking it off. And angels are here to lay us ergon, to serve us to make our work easier. And I think a lot of times we are struggling alone when if we would, we don’t pray to angels, we don’t worship angels but we, the Bible says they obey; they obey at the voice of His Word, from the book of Psalms.
Sid: Tell you what, “Our time is slipping away…