Sid: I have an African from Uganda his name is Apostle Ronald Ssali. And some of the things that he has seen and done are on the same level as what we read about in the book of Acts. And on yesterday’s broadcast I’ll get a lot of people upset with me Ronnie if I don’t go back to this story. You were praying in unknown tongues and you got a witch upset with you because they literally as you explained from people that have come out of witchcraft in Africa they can see the flames of fire and in Africa they can see the flames of fire of the Holy Spirit over you. So they went after you and you had a vision or a word from God that this was going to happen then all of a sudden suddenly you saw a witch floating in the air going after you. Did this person look like a witch?
Ronnie: Yeah this person was looking like this type of witches because these type of witches what they do they just wear… they move around in the late hours when this forces come on them when they’re doing their enchantment and they doing all of their ditches in the night you know. Some of them are nude…now this witch was completely nude and was floating up in up off of the ground like 5 feet was ready to come and catch and take me for cannibal you know.
Sid: And cannibalize you.
Ronnie: Yea cannibalize me you know and eat me up. And I remember this was a real battle this was between death and life. You have to know how to trust in God and to release His fire and power to consume the devil. Then I remembered that Christ in me is greater than the devil that is in this witch. And even if you’re floating 5 foot from the ground that does not…that does not scare me because Christ is greater than this witch that was floating using demonic power. So I stretched my hand…now as I’m stretching my hand my body is feeling the demonic power trying to kill me you know suffocating and making me lose balance. I stretched my hand and I said “In the name of Jesus!” I was so violent the sound…the voice of my role was so loud that I mean it took literally shed…I mean it was so strong that I roared “In the name of Jesus change your direction now!” This witch fell down and ran; took the opposite direction and ran for life.
Sid: You can’t be afraid of the devil or the demonic when you see that type of power in the name of Jesus can you?
Ronnie: I’ve seen the type of power that kept from death, you cannot be afraid of the devil because the devil. He does he vanishes flees running in fear; they vanish from the power of Jesus. When you say you’re praying in the name of Jesus and you’re dealing with the situation believe because when you pray things happen in the spirit.
Sid: Now I want to understand how you got to be such a powerful vessel of the Lord. When you were 13 years of age you heard the auditable voice of God what happened?
Ronnie: Yes, I remember I was in Uganda Church and this was in Uganda and it was in the church in Buwenge. And it was around the afternoon and I was walking just alone in the streets and just a few people because that at that moment the weather was too hot and many people were walking around. So I was walking so there was people was scattering on this road I was walking through this side road. I mean then the bush on this side and the bush on the other side kind of jungle and I was going to church. And I heard a voice calling my name “Ronnie!” Now people called me Ronald but at home they called me Ronnie that’s my called name you know they call me Ronnie. So for someone to call me that name must be either staying in the house or call and a letter to us but this voice. This voice I never heard a voice like this before and I’ve never had the peace that was coming in this voice, the peace, the almighty spender of the Holy Spirit, the power and it was coming from above from every corner. I mean the voice of the Almighty is coming from every corner so I didn’t know where to go. Because I thought maybe I should go this way; I should go where ever the voice was coming from. And He called me again “Ronnie!” And I didn’t answer because I was afraid you know because of I was still 13 years of age you know and not so much in the things of God but I was still so thirsty and hungry for God I was still getting know God.
Sid: A few years later you had quite an experience with the Holy Spirit and then miracles started happening. Tell me what happened in 1990 with the Holy Spirit.
Ronnie: Now I remember yes after that voice called me and I went in 1990 I began to seek God because the I told Him “You call me last time but now I’m ready to answer You now I’m ready to answer…
Sid: So God will give you a second chance.
Ronnie: Definitely give you a second chance, God is very good that’s why no one can be like God because He says “Return to Me and I’ll return to you.” So now this time I was desperate; I said “Lord I want You I’m desperate for You fill Your Holy Spirit” and this was 1990. And things happened and the Holy Spirit come upon me immediately things turned around. I had the experience the miracles in action.
Sid: When Holy Spirit came on you describe what occurred?
Ronnie: When the Holy Spirit came on me there was a preacher who had come from Congo and he was preaching about the Holy Spirit. He said “Do you understand the Holy Spirit, come forward and I’ll pray for you.” So we went forward and he laid hands on me; I remember saying “Father this is the promise that You promised to me.” You know I didn’t care about others I was focused. God deals with the individuals He doesn’t deal with the multitudes; He healed individuals. I said “Now I want my portion” I said “Seriously I must receive the Holy Spirit today.” So this man laid hands on me and prayed, immediately the presence of God came upon me in a strange way and the peace came, the river began to flow out I began to speak in a heavenly language.
Sid: How did you feel?
Ronnie: Oh it felt so peaceful, it feels so wonderful, it feels so tremendous. You feel peace, you feel joy.
Sid: You said a river what do you mean by that?
Ronnie: A river is deep in your heart it feels your floating you know. You’re not in dry place you begin to feel like you’re swimming in a river you know. The passion you feel, the joy you feel you know, the presence of…something is deeply unexplainable but it’s just like you’re floating in a river you’re swimming in a river you know.
Sid: That’s when the real passion for the Lord started in your life isn’t that right?
Ronnie: Yeah that‘s when the real passion started in my life and from that time never quaint, never be quaint.
Sid: Now you started seeing miracles; tell me about a few you saw after that time.
Ronnie: That was a time I remember we went to a crusade and this crusade and the pastor preached. And one day of this crusade which was a Saturday he never came to pray because he had left the nation and was going to another nation and the pastor didn’t come. And I was new in this ministry so there was no one to preach and the people who come to the crusade to receive miracles and healing and salvation. So I stood up on this crusade and began to preach, I preached a sermon for about 10 minutes upon Jesus there was so many Hallelujah’s but I kept on saying Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever and He performs miracles yesterday, performed today and performs them forever. He’s saved me yesterday, today, He’s saved me forever.” I just kept on repeating myself and saying hallelujah. You know when you’re nervous you speak to the crowd and taught them about power and miracles and you’ll never see this thing before that came upon me. So…but I was so much confident in God because of the Holy Spirit that I didn’t look at the excellence of my speech but I looked at the power that was going to be demonstrated. And faith was leaping out me because the fear of God convicted them. Then a altar was set to come forward, they come forward and I laid hands on them. One lady had bad vision she would see only see one finger and then she was healed. One man had had a powerless arm and it was healed, another one had a deaf ear it was healed. Many miracles kept happening like that.
Sid: You have so much faith and it’s almost a childlike faith I imagine it is a gift of God and yet is there anything that we can do to develop our faith like you’ve developed your faith?
The first thing we need to do is to learn how to yield to the Holy Spirit. Many times when you want to move in the power of God you have to yield in the Holy Spirit because it’s the way that you can stir up your faith.
The 2nd thing is when you pray for somebody let not your mind say “What if she’s not healed what will happen to me?”
Because that always comes to your mind “What if he’s not healed? What will happen if I’d be ashamed? This is what you shall say
“What if he’s healed then God will take the glory.
Because when you pray you are submitting the situation to God and allowing Him to come in and move inside that person. So it is not your strength but the strength that cometh and relieve by faith in Jesus. That’s the only you can increase your level faith by knowing that when you pray something must happen. Because the Bible says “Ask and you shall receive, seek you shall find and knock and you shall open.”
Sid: Do you see as many prayers for people when you pray in America as you do in Africa; as many answers to prayer?
Ronnie: Oh praise the Lord and a very good question. What I’m going to say is that yes but not as in Africa because in Africa it happened so massively because… I can’t count them I can’t even tell that some of them there’s so many that you don’t even get to know until maybe when you leave and you come back for another crusade you know. It happens so many happening there houses which are near where you’re preaching because of how people respond. In America they do happen but I mean yes there’s a lot of teaching and a lot of explanation and then you have to waste time.
Sid: Now Ronnie we’re going to have some miracles this week I can tell you he moves in very specific words of knowledge. And I’m going to cut him loose sometime during this week and watch out devil!