Sid: Hello Sid Roth with from Something More and I’ve got 2 guests from…so they’re the closest I’ve ever gotten to Australia that’s where they’re from Adam Thompson and Adrian Beale. Adam I found out from by just talking to you for just a very minutes you are very very prophetic but were you prophetic before that car accident?
Adam: No I wasn’t I was a bit of a wild child and I was brought up in a Christian home but I lost my way. I didn’t really know anything about God but I was you know I got caught up in the wrong crowd and I you know was pretty messed up yeah.
Sid: Okay you had this accident tell me about it.
Adam: Well I come home from a party with a friend of mine called John you know I did a stupid thing drink driving. And I was driving home on a cold night in Adelaide, Australia and driving home I was pretty drunk and I was seeing 2 of everything.
Sid: Hm.
Adam: I was in terminology I was a legalist but when I was driving in the car it was so old I was…
Sid: I’ll have to remember that I don’t think I’ll use it but it’s an interesting term I’m pondering legalist. How do you drive like a legalist…oh no never mind go ahead.
Adam: It’s an Aussie terminology, but I was driving and it was a cold night and the windows were foggy so I was trying to drive and clean the windows at the same time which is pretty stupid actually when you are intoxicated. And then all of a sudden these mud flaps of this big truck came and bang just went under a truck and we totally rid of the car and was sort of trying to work out way out of the car. I was so drunk and the truck driver knew that I was intoxicated called the cops and there was a scene of police and it was a real mess. I knew that I was in a lot of trouble, I knew that I probably would be arrested and put in jail. My friend was intoxicated as well but I went off as there was police everywhere and there was a big scene and I went off a little bit on the side and I started praying. And my friend John Peta he said to me “What are you doing?” And I said “I’m praying and I’m asking God to get me out of this and if He does I’m going to commit my life to Him.”
Sid: What was the probability you would get out of this without of this without a problem?
Adam: What was the probability if you…
Sid: You could get out?
Adam: Yeah if I could get out of it I would walk with the Lord and get…
Sid: No if He didn’t get you out what would happen?
Adam: If He didn’t get me out of it I probably would have gotten arrested, probably would have been incarcerated and imprisoned for a short time and then I would have lost my license for about 12 months and I would had that on my record.
Sid: Okay so you prayed and what happened?
Adam: So I prayed and the police officer came to me and wanted me to breath into this breathalyzer to test my breath and I was trying hard to not be drunk trying to act sober. And I blew in this machine and my heart was racing there was an adrenaline and then he went up to the street light to see the machine and it was completely zero, it was completely negative and the police officer said to me your free to go. And I was stunned so that following week on the Sunday I went to church and respond to the altar call and gave my heart to God.
Sid: But I have to ask you just briefly when did you do start having your prophetic gift activated?
Adam: Well I had this encounter in my living room probably about 10 years after my decision for Christ. I became a workaholic and I was a businessman and I had this encounter where the Lord appeared to me in my living room and He asked me and I didn’t really know the scriptures that well back then because I was so you know lukewarm with my faith and coming home late at night everybody was asleep and I was pretty tired. But the Lord appeared to me in the living room and He asked me “What do you want Me to do for you?” Because I was frustrated and I was angry and I was doubting God and He said “What do you want Me to do for you?” And I was speechless at the time but I was thinking about it and I said to the Lord “Give me wisdom, Lord all I want is wisdom.” And I cried out to the Lord for wisdom but what happened was a long story short; I had this encounter and impartation of the Spirit of God I became revived within. And out of this encounter I started to see things, I started to understand people’s dreams; I started to you know to be able to walk along the street and I could see what’s wrong with a person and sometimes I knew their name.
Sid: Hm.
Adam: The cafeteria girl I would know her name and what’s wrong with her life and what’s you know what’s…you know it just came upon me from that impartation that I had when the Lord stood before me in the living room.
Sid: That is fascinating we could talk the whole Something More…
Adam: There’s a lot more to it yes.
Sid: I’m sure. Adrian the brief story of how you come to the Lord.
Adrian: Oh I was like wise in a place of desperation my life had it’s downs and it’s up but I got desperate and I went back to what I knew as God or church and I was memorizing the Nicene Creed. I used to ride a bike to work so I was reasonably fit then I try to maintain that fitness now but I was riding probably…
Sid: You’re doing a whole lot better than me but go ahead.
Adrian: (Laughing) So I would ride to work and I’m the way I was memorizing the Nicene Creed so you know “The very God and the light of lights and so on.” And one time I was riding home where there was just an open fields and basically on the highway just going through these open fields and I heard the audible voice of God say to me “I’m going to lead you to someone that’s going to further your Christian walk.”
Sid: Excuse me did you say audible?
Adrian: Yes.
Sid: That means it sounded like me?
Adrian: Yes.
Sid: Okay.
Adrian: I looked to my right…
Sid: Had you ever heard the audible voice of God before?
Adrian: Never, but I was so hungry and I think that was the key God responded to my hunger.
Sid: But did God I always have to ask this question, the hunger came from God or did it come from you, was it the chicken or the egg? No, I’m just teasing (Laughing).
Adrian: And the answer is yes.
Sid: I think it all comes from God.
Adrian: Yeah amen I guess He put a desire within me for more of Him, he discovered Himself to me and so then I was hungry. I was trying to find God in a creed and then He said “I’m going to lead you to someone.” So He said “You’re scratching around the surface I’m going to take you deeper. And that person introduced me to a Pentecostal church where as soon as the worship started I was just overcome the presence of God I just knew that I was supposed to be there.
Sid: Speaking of presence of God you two gentlemen realized there has been such an increase the moment you started talking about your visitation it just kept getting stronger and stronger. Does God want to do anything right this moment I mean there’s such a nice presence of God (Laughing) I don’t want to miss anything?
Adam: It is very strong it’s a beautiful thing and we’ll see what the Lord does if He gives me some words of knowledge or maybe Adrian might get something we’ll see what happens.
Sid: Okay so Adrian was this church connected at all with Adam?
Adrian: We actually met there later on so that was in 1985 in 1988 we happened to be going to the same Bible college together so that of course then caused us to meet there. At which time Adam was an artist so prophetic he’s a prophet and he’s also an artist. So we often see the people that are very arty to be prophetic because they’re actually capturing a vision for anything from within.
Sid: Right.
Adam: He painted a painted for me and I’ll show it to you afterwards of Daniel in the lion’s den which hangs on my lounge room on my living room wall.
Sid: Now we’ll B-roll it when this is play not everyone will see it so describe it.
Adam: It’s a picture of Daniel looking into a light but it seems to streaming down through a narrow opening and lions as if it were sonnets around him moving looking wearily at Daniel.
Adrian: Yeah it’s a prophetic sign. He gave me an image to translate and copy it and just to get some ideas but it is a prophetic sign because we had no idea that we were going to come together 10 years later and we sort of went missing in action after that and we separated and 10 years later God brought us together in a ministry of Dreams and Visions so it’s a prophetic that I did that for him.
Sid: Well in your book here the “Divinity Code” to understanding your dreams and visions. I’ve never heard of a book that is so inclusive. We’re talking about 3000 Metaphor Dictionary; a dictionary on names and places. How did this book evolve?
Adam: Well you know Sid it took us 5 years to put that together.
Sid: I’m sure I don’t know how you did it in even 5 years.
Adam: And there were times in there where we were in the tunnel and still trying to see the light at the end of that tunnel and whether the body of Christ would be in that place or the church would be in that place that they would accept what God was giving us through revelation God was giving us.
Sid: Why wouldn’t they accept it?
Adam: Well, we actually were called heretics for our teaching or the revelation that we were bringing to the body of Christ. We were in a sense this was in 2005 and 2006 and it was yet to be unveiled the body of Christ particularly in Australia. In America you had John Paul Jackson you had some real pioneers that did a lot of work…
Adrian: Yeah.
Adam: …in this area but the revelation that God was giving us was a burden that we felt like there was…
Sid: It was kind of new for Australia.
Adam: Yes it was very new for Australia and in some respects is conservative particularly the town we come from.
Adrian: Yeah and even though it’s all backed up by scripture it was outside of their box and they really gave us grief but we loved them and we blessed them but it was a hard time. But one of the things that I was going to say really opened up America for that book was a man called “James Watt.” He was the last remaining elder on the latter reign revival and he’s passed away since. He had encounter and he had an encounter in Israel in ’92 I think. And the Lord spoke to him and told him “One of the keys to end-time revival is dreams and visions.” So he was so shaken by this encounter he tried to find the right books he couldn’t find anything that witnessed to him. Now somebody sent the man our book and he was one of the first persons to endorse it and really embrace the whole thing and contact us and we visited in his home and he prayed for us it was a great experience. But he really was that’s what really help us for doors to really open in America for us.
Sid: Adrian why are dreams so important? Because we talked before we started this show and I said “You know one of my greatest liabilities is one of my greatest assets is that I’m a very logical pragmatic type of person.” And the dream business is just too mysterious I mean I can say that it means this and I can genuinely think it but it really means something else and so I just kind of almost ignore it many times I hate to say this but I do.
Adrian: I think that you’re not the only one in that boat I think that many people do that. I think that most people come to us and they say that they had a weird dream last night.
Sid: And so we call it in the states a pizza dream.
Adrian: Yes and so you know that’s a funny thing is that the British Cheese board did a study that said if you eat a certain amount of cheese before you go to bed more people would actually dream.
Sid: Yeah but more people would die too because cheese causes…never mind (Laughing).
Adrian: (Laughing) Well maybe in their sleep. You know as Jesus spoke in parables about the kingdom dreams are a parable it is a narrative which parallels something in the person’s life. And generally that parallels something in the person’s life and generally that parallels something that’s a burden on their heart or something that they’re involved important in their lives could be their lives, it could be their family it could be personally themselves. For a Christian whether God’s on the throne or whether they’re on the throne so God will address those things in a dream or a vision but as a parallel. And as that narrative or that story’s being heard what it does it bypasses our natural defense mechanism and is impartation or an imprint of the images that are there and then gets us intrigued with that and then can go deeper behind that with the Spirit of understanding we can see what lies behind the story that we have heard the story. Does that sort of make sense?
Sid: Oh it makes sense and as a matter of fact we spend half of our life sleeping and if it’s easier and that’s what I’m hearing you say it’s easier for God to talk to me with all of my defenses down for half of my life. And if I’m throwing it out with the dirty bathwater I’m missing a lot!
Adrian: That’s true that is so true yeah. Doesn’t it say in Job 33 that God will speak to a man once or twice through a dream or a vision to change and to move things for him?
Sid: It does say that. Now why are you two together, why did God knit the two of you?
Adrian: There is a chemistry Adam has a particular gift a very powerful prophetic gift I’ve a prophetic teaching gift and so the revelation that God has given Adam I’m able to tie it the scripture. I’m very pragmatic very heady if you like.
Sid: Hmm hm.
Adrian: But what I’d like to say to you is you can catch this in a good way and there is an impartation that takes place and an understanding that takes place that takes you to see things differently. It’s not only for dreams and visions but it also helps when you’re studying scripture because scriptures are narrative with the stories beneath the surface and we miss so much of that particularly in the Old Testament. And I believe that you need both Old and New the news is the window to the kingdom but the window opens with the keys these are the keys of the kingdom from the Old Testament and the scribes got to have both Old and New in the end of Matthew the parables.
Sid: And most Christians just have a Bible without the Old Testament even connected to it.
Adam: That’s right.
Sid: Okay my pragmatic side is coming out now. I read this book and use it the way you intended it to be, I listen to the 2 CD’s in which you mentor us in understanding. I even read the book “The Supernatural Man.” Give me a couple of sentences what is this book about?
Adam: The book is about how to walk like Jesus walked, Jesus is a forerunner for us He came on planet earth to be a forerunner. God is a man and He hand the baton on to us and we can walk in that same realm as a supernatural person. And not as a natural man but as a supernatural man to bring the actual kingdom on earth as it is in heaven. Wherever you walk can be a sign and a wonder rather than having signs and wonders around you the signs and wonders are governed through you.
Sid: Okay I have no doubt when John Paul Jackson was here he could do a masterful job of interpreting dreams.
Adam: Yes.
Sid: I have even thought I’ve just met you to because you already demonstrated this for me I have no doubt that you can interpret my dream or a staff members dreams which you’ve already done. But if I read both books; if I listen to the 2 CD’s what’s going to happen to me when you guys go to Australia?
Adam: Well you will be left with a body of information of understanding that should take you to the next step. This is not a formula and this is not the be it end all to reveal dream interpretation. The key to interpretation is being in tune with the Spirit of God; earlier we were talking about the presence of God here. The presence of God is the kingdom, where the presence is the kingdom is active. That’s where we need more of that. We don’t need a body of knowledge what we need is more of the presence, we do need knowledge but we need the presence of God.
Sid: Okay I have the presence but I need the knowledge (Laughing) what’s going on. So you’re saying forget everyone right now to me…are you saying to me if I digest everything I will be able to not be like a blind man driving the car when it comes to dreams. Is that what you’re saying?
Adrian: I believe so yeah.
Sid: Have you got testimonies of people…just like average people
Adrian: We do.
Sid: that go through this and now all of a sudden the missing link is there and now God’s talking to them and bypassing all of the defenses.
Adrian: Some of the conferences just about every conference we have left saying “Our lives are never the same again.”
Sid: I’ll tell you what let’s hold that thought…we’ll be right back and I want to find out why does God do these symbols and parables and things like that as opposed to just tell me straight would you like to know the answer? Be right back.
Tags: its supernatural, Sid Roth
Tags: its supernatural, Sid Roth