Sid: I have a man that just supernaturally stumbled into a principal that has revolutionized his life and so is yours about read to be changed because some of you are crying out and praying to God and saying “God I know that there’s got to be more.” Gary Carpenter in the early 1990’s began praying in tongues for a long period of time. He was truck driver before that and his training was an engineer. Ten hours a day he started praying in tongues and God began speaking to him and called him into his own ministry. And the thing that I think is so fantastic is and God doesn’t call everyone to walk this walk but Gary doesn’t even ask money for the cassette that he gives away he gives away. He doesn’t tell people when he has personal needs. He was $25,000 in debt and once he got a revelation on finance in a few months it was totally wiped out. And he started his ministry with $10 and a 20 year old tape recorder and you don’t tell people your needs. For instance one day you needed a better duplicator but you didn’t have one what happened?
Gary: Well the first thing that has really been the foundation for how to get things when you need them in other words Jesus calls you to do something you’re going to need things to do it with. And the first thing that I always go to is where Jesus said in the Gospel of John “Whatsoever you ask the Father in My Name He will give you.” I take that extremely literally. Well we had that old tape recorder and it’s the kind that what they call “High speed dubbing.” Which is a joke because what that means is double speed if you have a 90 minute tape you high speed dub it it takes 45 minutes to make every copy.
Sid: You can’t make that many in a day.
Gary: Huh it got to be even when we just had to be like 15 tapes a week to do it became almost like a full time job in between mowing the lawn and doing whatever else needed to be done. And we’re always flipping tapes over and making copies of things. Well we needed a high a real high speed duplicator I did my homework I got my prices I found a brand that was a 3 to 1 that would make 3 copies in about 4 minutes. And it seemed to be the best price the problem was with tax included it cost about $1050. It might as well have been a million at that time. We had no idea how to get that kind of money plus the Lord had told us not to tell anybody what we needed. So we went to that verses and said “Father Jesus said that if we had a need if we ask You for it in His name that You will give it to us.” “Father we’re asking You for one of these high speed tapes duplicators and the model. And according…” and now this is where the real faith movement comes in “Mark 11:24 we believe that we receive.” Right then when we pray and every day we thank Him for it even though in the natural we couldn’t see it. We didn’t tell anybody else about the prayer, didn’t tell anybody but God. Within a short time I’m thinking less than 2 weeks if I remember correctly somebody walked up to us and handed us an envelope and just said “This is for your ministry.” We open the envelope after they left you know we try to be discreet. Well there was 10 $100 bills in the envelope and at that point we had nothing in our account we had $50 dollars we put that $50 dollars with the $1000 and we went and we bought the tape duplicator. That’s how we received everything from the Lord He either sends the thing directly or He’ll send the money to buy it.
Sid: Alright quickly you needed a backup printer you prayed at 7:00 in the morning for the printer what happened?
Gary: This still an in creditable thing we only had one printer and I had to have it worked on and I found out it was going to be in the shop for a while I thought that I could stand and wait. (Laughing) Well we were almost shutdown during that time we couldn’t send any letters of anything. So I asked the Lord at 7:00 in the morning for a backup printer. And I had it that “Lord since I need a printer any way this one be a laser printer, we believe that we believe we receive when we pray in Jesus Name Amen.” Now that was 7:00 in the morning. We didn’t tell a soul nobody, no human being on earth about that payer or about the need. At 2:00 in the afternoon there’s a knock on my door there was a man standing there holding some kind of electoral equipment underneath his arm it’s a big bulky item come to find out it’s a used but recently reconditioned laser printer. And my mouth dropped open as you can image and I’m looking at him with questioning eyes I don’t think I even spoke I could hardly say anything. And he looked at me and he said “The Lord says this belongs to you.”
Sid: But there was a point where you would pray based on a scripture of truth and not have results.
Gary: And the reason this is what Dave was trying to tell us in the beginning. The faith message the word of faith message is true but only when it’s coupled with the true leadership of the Holy Spirit. We are on this earth to serve Jesus and not the other way around and the thing that I appreciate so much about praying in other tongues the Holy Spirit will bring you into intimate fellowship with the Lord. You’ll start hearing His voice, you’ll start knowing what He wants you to do on this earth and that’s what Matthew 6:33 is all about. “Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness and then all of these things shall be added unto you.”
Sid: Now that’s you what about people and I’ve got a stack of comments from people that have studied your teaching and followed it. Tell me one story about the man with the gold.
Gary: Well this friend of mine began hearing the tapes and like me he became convinced that the message was true and he began spending a lot of time praying in other tongues. Sure enough the Lord started letting him know what his ministry was. There are certain people that are called to make a lot of money for the Kingdom. In Roman’s 12 it talks about he that giveth give with simplicity. Well this man began to pray and seek the mind of the Lord and he understood his call. And sure enough one day the Holy Spirit came to him and just told him that gold prices in the commodities market was going to $325 and told him what month it would go there which was December of that year. Well this man he began buying gold option ahead of time which he could buy very cheap and the end result of that enterprise was he turned about $3000 worth of gold options to over $80,000 worth a profit in just a few months. Now the thing of it is by spending all of that time in fellowship with the Lord his desires the desire of his heart changed. The desire of his heart now was to fulfill his call and his call is to make a lot of money for the Kingdom to finance revivals and anything else the Lord wants to do with that money.
Sid: Out of curiosity this specific how much does he give to the Lord of what he makes?
Gary: Well in that particular case he gave all of it because that was the desire of his heart that he understood the difference between his provision and the Lords talent. In Luke in what we call the parable of the pound where the Lord came and gave each man a pound and he went and traded and got increase when the reckoning came the man would say to him the words die pound, notice he said die pound have gained 10 pounds. Another one said to him die pound has gained 5 pounds. These men understood that they were called to take a certain amount of money and increase it but that increase was not for their use that increase was the Lord’s.
Sid: So Gary what is the best way for us to prosper?
Gary: The only way I found to prosper is whatever He says to you do it. Everything hinges in finding out His call for your life.
Sid: But most of us aren’t in the position for even hearing what to do to do it. So we have to go back to the way we started this week about praying in unknown tongues.
Gary: And that’s really the foundation it’s available to every believer and it’s difficult in the beginning if they do that in a long term basis but it becomes second nature to you you do it all the time. And the more you do it you just hear Him better you’re intimacy with Him is closer you begin to understand what He want you to do in this life for the Kingdom. And not everyone’s called into full time ministry he has a call for every single person in the body. To some it’s to raise Godly children but everything in the world as you hear Him and understand what He wants and obey Him you’re safety is on that path, your prosperity is on that path, everything you need for equipment or anything else is on that path.
Sid: Has He given you any insight into what’s going to happen economically to this country and how close His return is?
Gary: Oh I don’t know so much about how close His return is I do know that He has told me that there is some very difficult times coming for the United States financially. And that it’s going to be very important that the people of God know how to hear Him and how to obey Him and how to follow the leadership of His Spirit because He’s going to use us during that time to bring in a large harvest of souls to the Kingdom.
Sid: And I also believe and I know that there will be a wealth transfer to God’s Kingdom.
Gary: Well the Bible talks about it from times of old that the wealth of the wicked is laid up for the just. The Lord says “The gold is mine, the silver is mine…