SID: Hello. Sid Roth here with Brenda and Hank Kunneman. And Hank and Brenda, you have walked through it. I think as that young boy before you even knew God you heard His voice. How old were you and what did he say to you?
HANK: I was five years old on the island of Guam when God’s voice came to me the first time. I wasn’t even a Christian. See, God’s reaching out to people even before they even know it.
BRENDA: That’s right.
HANK: And all they have to do is reach back. And He told me, He started talking about living a life. And He talked in elementary terms, living a life that was right, doing what was good. And He showed me and talked to me about His creation, and He created these things for my enjoyment. But I’m gonna tell you. That is the key because it developed something in me and that’s the key for you watching, too, is a hunger for God. You know, reach for Him. That’s the key. Reach for Him. Sometimes, you know, you’re waiting for God to hit you over the head. And, you know, we have to reach towards Him. And one of the things that happened one time, and I didn’t really realize how much God was reaching towards us and how much God really wants to be with us, how much he really loves us, and He longs to be with us. Here’s what happened. I was in my prayer room. And of course, we do what everybody does now. Sometimes being a preacher you put God on your time. You know, you have this much amount of time in my schedule. And so I had one hour. God, you’re gonna get one hour of my time. And I was ready. I was done. I did my religious duty. I spent one hour with God. And so I was getting ready to leave. And soon as I grabbed the door handle of my room I heard the most incredible voice. God still speaks today, Sid. And God said these words to me. He said, “Please!” And I stopped. I thought, who is saying “please” to me? And I heard, “Please don’t leave,” Sid.
SID: God said to you?
HANK: Yes, to me. The Creator of the universe.
SID: Hank Kunneman, said to you? There’s something about you that I need to be in your presence. He needs to be in your presence? He needs to be with you? He needs to be with you. Whether you’ve heard that or not, this is what the Bible says, the truth book. God is not irrespective of persons. If He needs Hank and Brenda he needs you.
BRENDA: That’s right.
HANK: You know, and I’ll tell you how important this is. Brenda and I, we spend a lot of time together with the Lord, but we reach back. And one day, it will come in handy, because when you spend time with God and you take that time to be with Him and hunger is so important. Sid, there’s times as a preacher I have sat with God and I said, “Lord, I don’t feel your presence. I am bored. I don’t like this time. I would rather do something else. But Lord, I’m hungry and I want you and I want your presence.” And it doesn’t sometimes seem like anything is happening at the moment.
SID: But you know what? Someone can be hungry and they don’t see anything happen and then they go and watch the ball game.
BRENDA: Right, right.
HANK: Yes. Right. Well but one thing that Jesus had is his private prayer life produced public power. And that’s where people miss it. They don’t have any public power or any supernatural things because they’re not spending time with God. And I want to tell you. We had a thing happen one time.
BRENDA: Well, you know, I just feel this, too, Sid. I believe as we’re talking, this came right up in my heart by the Lord, is God is speaking even as we’re sitting here. But there are people dealing with loneliness. And I just feel like there’s somebody out there that you’re dealing with loneliness and you’re feeling like, man, does anybody care? And as we’re talking you’re thinking, “Well God, do you care?” And I just want to encourage you. This is your moment to be with God. He does care. You don’t have to be lonely in your life. And so I just want to encourage you. Reach to God like you heard Hank say and like Sid was saying, reach to God because your lonely moments are going to be fulfilled in Him as He’s reaching to you. And so I just feel I’d like to encourage somebody with that by the spirit.
HANK: You know one time, let me tell you what God does. When you spend time with him there’s a presence that He will put on your life. I remember years ago I was a youth minister and I was out playing what we call Capture the Flag, and it was kind of like a hide and seek type game. And all of a sudden I heard a noise and I didn’t hear it in the natural. I heard it in the spirit, but I thought it was in the natural. And it was a loud sounding noise of music, Sid. And all of a sudden I grabbed the youth leaders and I said, “Get all the kids right now.” And it was pretty late at night. It was almost about midnight. I said, “Get all the kids quickly. Get them inside of the church.” And they said, “Why? Why?” I said, “I don’t know. Something”. And I hear this noise. “Get them in now.” And as soon as I said that we started the process of moving all of these kids. And there was quite a few of this youth group. Well there was an off-duty police officer there and he said, “Is everything okay?” And I said, “I don’t know. There’s something wrong.” All of a sudden within 15 minutes later all of these cars come flying into the church parking lot. And it was a bunch of gangs and they had their music going, and it was a really loud sounding bass sound that the older I get, the less tolerant I am of it. But anyway, they got out of their cars and started running towards us. And all of the kids got inside of the building. But me and this off-duty police officer were the only two, and he went to go get his gun. I’m standing there now in the middle of all of these–They started surrounding me with clubs and chains, and stuff. And I’m surrounded by gangs And if it wasn’t for a life of not leaving God alone and crying out for him I would have never had the supernatural presence that is on my life, whether I speak to a president or the lowliest person or surrounded by gangs. And all of a sudden this one gang leader came out and he walked up to me, and he said something I did not understand, and he was reaching in his coat to pull out what was an apparent weapon. Sid, at that moment, you know, you have a choice. You can be like Rocky Balboa. You know, Rocky, yo. I wasn’t Rocky. I wasn’t, “Hey, how do you do?” I felt like Don Knotts. I couldn’t even say anything. I was so scared. I know that doesn’t sound spiritual for those that are watching. You know, I didn’t seem spiritual. But I remember I pointed my finger and I didn’t say anything. All of a sudden their eyes got big, and there must have over a hundred of these gangs. I don’t know what they saw, started running in absolute fear. At that time they got in their cars and went to get away, and as they were so scared what they saw they were hitting each other creating car accidents trying to get out. And this other police officer came by and he said, “What is going on here?” He held up his badge because he was in the city that we were in. And he said, “I’ve never seen them like this. Why are they running?” I believe they saw an angel. I believe they saw angels. I believe God came literally to protect me because of my relationship of not leaving God alone.
SID: I sure hope that Brenda and Hank Kunneman are provoking to jealousy because everything they have, not only is it available to you, God wants it more for you than you want it for yourself. I want to hear some of this supernatural, I mean, God supernaturally protected you. How would you like to walk in supernatural protection? Don’t go away. And by the way, if you have a young child that’s sick, we’re gonna pray for them when we come back.