Sid: I’ll tell you what Mishpochah I just love being in the presence of God. The man that I’ve been interviewing all this week he is a prophet, but more important than that he is a mentor. His name is Graham Cooke from England and Graham I have a copy in my hand and it’s so filled with so many nuggets of all the years that you have been learning to hear God’s voice and walk with God. It’s called “Approaching the Heart of Prophecy” tell me about the book.
Graham: Well, I wrote it for people who really want to understand how God thinks, what God is like in terms of His own personality, His own character, His own nature. Because it’s the unchanging nature of God that actually drives our spirituality; in fact Revelation 19:10 says “It’s the testimony of Jesus that is the very Spirit of Prophecy.” What you know about God drives everything that you are and everything that you do. So the whole book for me is this is what God is like, this is who He is, this is how He thinks, this is how His heart works, this is what you can depend on. This is how you can know Him in the context of all of that you can actually become that heart and that voice and that way of thinking to people around you by using the gift of prophecy.
Sid: And the thing that I think is so wonderful is that you not only teach in this book, but then you tell people; you give them assignments and then you quote famous mystics from like Saint Martin of Tours he lived 316 to 397. You have these great mystics of the early centuries that have almost been lost. I think that it’s been lost for us to understand how to hear God’s voice, how to be led by His Spirit. We just got such a cerebral gospel and a cerebral churches today.
Graham: Yeah, I think for me Sid I think I put those in because there’s a school of thought that says that you know what happened in the early church is one thing, but now we have the Bible. I wanted to show people that all the way through history there have been people who have been hearing the voice of God doing supernatural things and being incredible in their generation.
Sid: Who’s your favorite that you read a nugget from that you could share real quickly.
Graham: Smith Wigglesworth.
Sid: Okay.
Graham: He was a…one of his key comments was “Fear looks, faith jumps.” (Laughing) So he was always, “I know the Lord has laid His hand on me so be filled with the Holy Spirit.” And that was always his thing was “Just believe, just believe, fear looks, faith jumps.”
Sid: Alright I want some people to jump right now not to look. On yesterday’s broadcast the Holy Spirit came upon you and told you to pray for people that need a job. And so I’m going to admonish those people before you pray for them to not just look around but do something. You pray for them now.
Graham: Yeah, Father I thank You, I thank You that You are the God who deals with despair, You’re the God of the down trodden. You’re the God who love who loves to lift us up, loves to give us expectations beyond anything that we can imagine or even think. And so right now in Jesus Name I pray for a miracle, those of you that are without employment, no visible means of support, I want you to lift your hands right where you are and I’m going to pray for you. I pray in the Name of Jesus that you will receive a miracle, even in this next week that will enable you to find gainful employment. For some of you who need to move to a different neighborhood, who even need to move into a house that God will bless you in your endeavors, that the Holy Spirit will come upon you; He will give you favor with Him. And the Lord says to you don’t go for the ordinary job but go for the extraordinary, go for a job that’s bigger than what you can imagine. Because the Lord is going to bless you, He’s going to honor you and He’s going to favor you in Jesus Name. Amen.
Sid: Well, there’s such a presence of God on the Show at this moment I have to believe that God wants to do something more, what more does He want to do right now?
Graham: You know the thing for me about the Lord Sid is if you think of the time when Israel were in captivity in Egypt.
Sid: Right.
Graham: You know those people would have been, they would have had dreams but some of them that’s all they’ve ever known is a life of oppression they were born into slavery, they were slaves. See can you imagine on one hand what their dream would be, it would be well I’d like to eat two meals today. I’d like not to get beaten today, I’d like my daughters ribs not to stick though her skin. So my question is “What is God dreaming at that moment in time.” He’s not dreaming about survival, He’s dreaming about giving them homes they didn’t build, vineyards they didn’t plant and wells they didn’t have to dig. That’s how far and above God wants to be for each one of us, and so that’s the dream of God. It’s always above and beyond anything that we could expect or even imagine, that’s the land that He wants to take us to in the Spirit. So for me that translates into take physical sickness right now. There are people listening to this show who have ulcers, who have there are children right now who have Leukemia; there are people that have brain tumors. There are people who have been told that their physical condition is irreversible, but not to the God who knows how to dream. Not to the God of the impossible, some of those people if you have a condition that you have been told is irreversible and that there’s no hope for you then we’re going to connect you right now with the God not only of hope but with the God of favor, it doesn’t matter if you don’t know Him right now, He knows you. So I pray just hold your hands out and “Father I pray in the Name of Jesus, I ask for, I take authority over that spirit of infirmity, I take authority over a spirit of death, I bind it, I curse it’s power in Jesus Name and I command life to come into those bodies. I command miracles to come, I command tumors to shrivel, I command leukemia to die in Jesus Name. And for cells to come back to life; I command that bodies will be physically healed in Jesus Name and you will now know the touch of God on your physical body even as I’m praying in the Name of Jesus. And that you will know that the God of miracles is present in your life and you may connect with Him for the first time or you may reconnect with Him in Jesus Name because God is coming after you.”
Sid: Graham the thought has crossed my mind right now you talk about people running to various revival meetings and they’re wonderful but they have encounters with someone else’s anointing what do you mean by that?
Graham: Well, I think for me the priority of a prophet’s ministry is not necessarily to prophecy it’s to teach people how to hear the voice of God for themselves. But even more than that the whole role of a prophet for me is to give people a radiant idea of God, this is who God is, this is what He’s like and He never, ever changes. And so the God who was the God of Moses is going to be your God too. The God who was the God of David is on your case too, He’s after you as well. The God who walked with Paul will walk with you, He has never changed and he never will change.
Sid: When you become a demonstrator of the supernatural you immediately demand the attention of a nonbeliever.
Graham: Yeah, exactly, yeah just like these people that I walked up to their house, it’s an awkward situation. What’s happening is it’s out of the blue suddenly their doorbell rings and they’re there and there’s a guy there and suddenly they’re having an encounter with God. And it’s a little awkward.
Sid: It sure beats the pastor that’s praying “God, send the nonbelievers into my church.”
Graham: Yeah, yeah.
Sid: Somehow we have this thing backwards.
Graham: We’re not here to introduce people to church, we’re here to introduce people to Jesus.
Sid: But you know what it seems it’s almost like we stay in remedial reading our whole walk in the Lord having a one man show, there’s got to be a better paradigm.
Graham: Yeah, yeah the whole point of ministry is to equip the saints so that they can do the work of the ministry.
Sid: No, no no the whole point is to build the pastors vision.
Graham: (Laughing) So I think you know what we are about.
Sid: Graham I believe someone can ahold of your latest book “Approaching the Heart of Prophecy.” Read it, do the stuff that you tell them to do, they’ll end up being just like the people they read about in the gospels and the Book of Acts. They couldn’t find buildings large enough because people will flock to them. That’s what you found you knew nothing and you had over a hundred people that you probably personally were involved with coming to your meetings. Graham can they do with you do?
Graham: Anyone can do it, hey Sid if I can do it, trust me anybody can do it. (Laughing)
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Tags: its supernatural, Sid Roth