Sid: Now, I recently interviewed Pastor Guillermo Maldonado and I was so impressed with the anointing on the book that we offered that I said, “Have you written other books.” And of course he’s written many other books. And when I found out that he had a kit called “Healing of the Whole Man” I said we’ve got to make that available to our people. Because Pastor Maldonado many years ago before Derrick Prince was promoted to go home, he was a friend of mine for many years. And he made a statement to me he wrote a book on deliverance and he said, “Spiritually it was the most difficult book that he had ever written.” How was it when you wrote your book on inner healing and deliverance?
Guillermo: Thank you Sid, yeah it was the same opposition and again thank you for having me on your program. And yes it took a lot of opposition to write it and this is one of the topics less taught in the church.
Sid: Why do you believe it’s less taught?
Guillermo: Okay, let me put it this way Sid, I think we have replacements in the church. We have replacement; we have replaced psychology and physiatry for deliverance. And the other replacement is counseling has replaced deliverance. What do I mean by replacements? Well, the church has been satisfied with you know with just giving counseling to the people. And I do believe in counseling, as a matter of fact one of my degrees is in counseling. But there’s something that, just to give you an idea to those that are the people are listening now. I had a person in my office one day and was filled with the Spirit, he loved God and then he said, “Pastor, can you help me, I don’t want to use pornography I’m bound to pornography and can you pray for me?” And at that time…
Sid: Let me just interject something, “You hit on a nerve, I am shocked at the number of, were not talking about nonbelievers, I am shocked at the number of pastors and believers that are addicted to pornography and they know too much, so it has to be something more than just a bad habit. They know enough that they should have never even started, but they are addicted to it.
Guillermo: Yes, and what is behind Sid, this is the problem. We are dealing with the branches of the problem, not with the root. When Jesus came, He said to this woman, that He, this woman was oppressed with a spirit of sickness for eighteen years. He said, “Spirit of sickness, come out, He called, Jesus called it by his name. He said, “You spirit of sickness,” now we call it differently, we call it well there is an unbalance brain in your head, whatever.
Sid: Or we call it issues, thats a popular word.
Guillermo: We don’t call sin now, we call it issues. That’s the problem of the seeker friendly churches that we call things issues and we don’t call it as it is. So now, we’re dealing with the branches, not with the root. That’s why the people keep bowing into this problem. And now remember I’ll just finish this testimony. This man came to me “Pastor, I love Jesus, I speak in tongues, I’m bound can you help me?” And at that time Sid, I didn’t not have the revelation of the deliverance. We’re talking about maybe twenty something years ago, I didn’t have the revelation of deliverance and inner healing and so I believed it in my head and my intellectual mind, but I did not believe it in practical. Like I did not practice it, and I remember, I remember the moment that in that time I was graduated and I had a diploma, master in counseling, and psychology and I said, “Well, you know there’s nothing I can do.” And like trying to say, well there’s no hope. And in that precise moment the Spirit of God came upon me and I said, “In Jesus name when I said, that the man started manifesting and he pushed my, he pushed my desk and myself and suddenly I have to take authority. Because Psychology didn’t work, Psychiatry didn’t work and all of the things that I learned secularly did not work because you know the only thing that works is the supernatural power of God and the anointing. And as you know the scriptures, the blood and things that we all ready know that work. And he was completely freed but this is my point, many people think “Well, I am Christian; I cannot be possessed by any demon.” And that is the reason the enemy has used to put a foundation in this program about deliverance and healing and the healing of the whole body. That’s the reason many people has rejected the message of deliverance because they think, what they think, “Well I’m not possessed.” And I understand because possession has to do with ownership, spirit, soul and body. But they forgot that Jesus, that Paul says in Ephesians 4:26 & 30 “Do not give place to the enemy.” In other words, you cannot be possessed but you can be influenced, you can be obsessed, you can be oppressed in something in your body, in your head, in your mind. So when Jesus talked about and this woman was demonized. You know there are some cases that He was talking about demonized doesn’t mean possession. However, He also, we saw Jesus praying for this man that was demon possessed, in other words he was not demonized, he was completely possessed by demons. And other cases He talked about demonized and we have not made the difference between possessed, and demonized. Christians cannot be possessed because the Holy Spirit lives inside of us, we understand, the owner is Jesus, not the devil. But there are some areas, but when we’re born again we are a spirit, we have a soul and we live in a body. We are three parts aspects as a human beings. In other words, we are spirit, we live in a soul and we have a body. Now in our spirit, the Holy Spirit lives inside of us so we are not possessed, he owns us. Two, and the soul, the soul is composed by mind, emotion and will. Those three things need to must be, must be Roman’s 12:2. Must be renewed, transformed changed and delivered. See what I’m saying, renewed, in other words, our soul needs to be renewed, changed, transformed and delivered. So that is the place where demons are influenced people in their minds, in their emotions, and in their will. And why, because there has to be a legal place for them to do it. So we are dealing now with carnal weapons trying to destroy spiritual weapons. And that doesn’t work.
Sid: And that’s why physiology can just go so far. But you know the thought that’s crossing my mind 1/3 of the people that Jesus prayed for in the Bible involved deliverance. We don’t, it’s demoted to the back room if at all, even there. I believe there are many people that have addictions, many people that has physical problems that if they understood emotional healing, if they understood deliverance rather than saying you know “That’s just my cross, I have to carry it.” They could be free. And what a better testimony than, I carried my cross, Jesus set me free, I like that better.
Guillermo: Of course, of course Sid and this is important to understand that also you know there are some things that for example this will be a good question to ask to the listeners right now. “How do you know, you have an oppression or a obsession or influence in your mind and your emotion, in your soul or in your body? And how do you know? I will say it this way, if you have prayed, if you have fasted, if you have done everything that you could and nothing changes, that is an oppression right there. Because in my own life, I can tell you Sid, I had such a spirit of rejection in me that Ididn’t know, I was a preacher with a spirit of rejection. And I had to be delivered!
Sid Roth: You know a lot of people don’t know this but many people get rejection in the womb, I mean and they just, you know they feel like they don’t hear from God and they wonder why? Or they can’t get there physical healing.