Sid: We want everyone everywhere to feel God’s heart in reference to the Jewish people and Israel. And I have on the telephone Jim Goll I’ve got a copy of his book which I personally endorsed on the cover it’s called “Exodus Cry.” And this book if you do not have a Jewish heart at this time in history it’s dangerous. I can tell you you’ll get it from reading this book. Now on yesterday’s broadcast we were talking about a prophetic word that Jim heard about the coming persecution of Jewish people in particular Russian Jews. And 6 weeks later Cindy Jacobs in England without knowing this had the identical type of word perhaps even stronger. And then the Prophetic Counsel led by Dr. Peter Wagner summarized these prophetic words as to what the prophets see coming. Jim would you tell me basically what that summary statement was?
Jim: I’d be glad to. It was 6 months later then we were ate the World Prayer Movement gathering the World Congress on intercession in Colorado Springs. You know the scriptures say that God will confirm His word by the witnesses of 2 or 3 and here you had the audible voice that came from me that you mentioned the Lord gave me; you have the prophetic encounter that you had from Cindy Jacobs. And then we had this convergence of many different prophetic voices coming together and Dr. Peter Wagner then and this prospective Messiologist, then summated this to where he basically stated gave a strong warning the last night of this convocation. The fear of the Lord came into the room; the intensity the presence of God was just like as they say it was so thick that you could cut it with a knife. And Peter Wagner warned that anti-Semitism in Russia and other nations would soon escalate to the point where it would require an immediate response from the church in prayer to help open a window of escape for those that feel called to leave and protection for those who are called to stay. And then we went into intense intercession as a result of that. And it was like a time bomb went off in our midst and this crisis intervention and explosion of intercession really blew across the room.
Sid: You know what I find interesting is I have just last month got a hold of the latest statistics from the Anti-Defamation League that anti-Semitism is accelerating since 9/11 dramatically in the United States of all places.
Jim: Yeah let me say something about that it brings me to another encounter and it was the morning of 9/11. I was not aware of what had happened and the Holy Spirit comes to me again the morning of 9/11 and says to me “The hunters have just been released.” I didn’t know what that was about then I go and turn on the television and I see as everyone else did the crashing of the Twin Towers. And I just want to say that that itself was an act of the demonic anti-Semitism demonic powers of darkness that were unleashed at that time. And those were hunters themselves New York City being the largest Jewish city in the world and the hunters…that was an act of the hunters being released at that hour.
Sid: Now what we’re referring to Mishpochah is something being written 1000’s of years ago by the Jewish prophet Jeremiah.
Jim: Yes.
Sid: And you might want to turn to that I’m going to be reading that from the 16th chapter of Jeremiah verse 14 through 16. Let me read this right now:
“Therefore behold the days are coming declares the Lord when it shall no longer be said as the lives that brought up the people of Israel out of the land of Egypt but as the Lord lives who brought up the people of Israel out of the north country and out of all of the countries where He has driven them for I will bring them back to their own land that I gave to their fathers.” Then the 16 verse tell how “Behold I’m sending from many fishers declares the Lord and they shall catch them and afterwards and afterwards I will send for many hunters and they shall hunt them from every mountain and every hill and out of the clefts of the rocks.”
Now Jim explain what I just read; who are the fisher, who are hunters? What is the prophet saying?
Jim: Yes as in much of prophesy there is multiple layers of fulfillment of it. And so throughout different periods of time of history there have been waves of fisherman followed by waves of hunters. So let’s try to define the word fisherman. Those are those who go before; we would use today in the New Testament terminology a for runner anointing like John the Baptist who goes away and tries to blow a trumpet, release a warning and prepares the way to awaken the people to respond to the word of the Lord or to God. And in this case the fisherman like say in the 1800’s well it could have been Theodore Herzl with the first Zionist World Congress who call forth the land for the Jewish people to go to that was held in Basel, Switzerland. Or perhaps they could be like Joseph Rabinowitz that was a forerunner again again in the late 1800’s and I was in this very land of Kishinev, Moldavia where it becomes awakened and sees Yeshua as his Messiah and he becomes a forerunner. He calls for and 40 ultraorthodox Jewish families become completed Jews and they began what was the Israelites of the New Covenant. So we have fishers that go before. A lot of this today is the prayer movement that was going before and speaking but then on the heels of those who do not come forth volunteering, then comes the hunters. In Russian history it’s the pogroms. And of course in the German history and European history it’s the Holocaust. In the earlier it’s the Spanish and Portages Inquisition where they’re hunted down literally killed, slaughtered today again in this generation. Fishermen are being raised up blowing trumpets of warnings, trumpets of preparation but on the heels the hunters once again are being released.
Sid: You know some of the history you have in the book few Christians have ever seen this because what the devil did in the name of institutional Christianity, in the name of secret symbols like the cross, the worst atrocities have occurred to Jewish people in all history. For instance I’ve been reading a little lately on the Spanish Inquisition tell me a little bit about that.
Jim: You know that was another thing I stumble into things somehow and by God’s grace so maybe some of you out there listening will relate to me because I literally just stumble into truth and revelation. And in this whole period of time you see and even the founding was the new world. This is right in the period of time in the Spanish Inquisition; the Jews were either forced to convert to quote quote I’m going to call it religious churchianity. I don’t even want to call it Christianity.
Sid: Really it’s a semantical problem because even this fellow Constantine in around the 300’s…
Jim: Yeah.
Sid: …AD he changed Christianity from a vital intimacy with the living God through Jesus the King of the Jews to an institutional dry dead political machine.
Jim: And that is the problem and that’s why also so many Jewish people it’s hard for them to see that Jesus Yeshua is the Messiah. Part of it is because of the churches stains and spots in our history. And so we have put roadblocks in the way and somehow we need to become enlightened, we need to become humble, we need to become truth bearers. We need to own up to the truth and we need to see that much of the church is laden with the political spirit and we need to act in the opposite of this.
Sid: Tell me a bit about what you found out in reference to the Spanish Inquisition for instance, I was amazed I’ve never know this before about the 3 influential Spanish Jews that literally underwrote Columbus’s voyage in return for an agreement.
Jim: Yes, this is all very fascinating you know by reading; I dove myself, I read 20 at least books for preparation for writing of this book at least 20 books. And I found that there was the funding of Christopher Columbus into the New World; this in part I’m not saying it’s a totality in part was to find a place of refuge for these Jews could flee to. The term that’s used today is the Sephardic Jews.
Sid: Which is another word for Spanish Jews.
Jim: Yes for Spanish Jews who and then today the names have been altered; the names could be Hernandez, Sanchez or something like this. And they had to flee for their lives because of this persecution. And again just say Teresa of Avila that is written up in church history I have been reading about her life and I have found that she was actually Jewish in her background but like many people it was hidden. They would change their names so as to hide their Jewish identity or it’s because they either were forced to be killed if they claimed their identity or they were forced to be baptized. Baptized into what? Baptized into a political religious system but the thing is Jesus is not this Jesus is a living reality, Jesus is a personal God who loves us and He wants you to know Him in a personal way. So whether we’re dealing with the church history, the Spanish Inquisition or many other things I just want to make sure that one thing is solid and put in all of our minds. Listen Jesus is good, God is good we have a heavenly Father and He loves you and He wants our eyes to become enlightened to the past so as by God’s grace not to continue to fulfill some of this bad history.
Sid: Ah we’re out of time Jim hold that thought…
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