SID: Hello. Sid Roth here. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. My guest, when he goes to foreign countries like Africa or other places he gets reports, and the reports that he gets is how come you have more miracles than these named ministers that come to our countries. How come you have so many miracles? What is your secret? And I’ll tell you something else. When you understand this secret your faith will be charged. It will be activated and you’re going to get your first love back for the Lord. And if it was just the latter it would be work everything. But how about having your faith charged. How about operating in the faith that is normal according to the Bible? And what is normal according to the Bible? This is what Jesus said: “You will do the same works that I have done and even greater.” What did he do? He raised the dead. Blind could see, deaf could hear, lame could walk. There are points in time where everyone that came into his presence was healed. He says you could do that. Now Jim Richards, I want to know what you’re doing that is so unique, that is charging the faith so that so many miracles happen.
JIM: Well you know, I first want to say more than anything else, it’s nothing special about me, and that’s really, really important to understand. It’s something special about what God did through the Lord Jesus. I discovered that when I would go into these countries and preach they wanted to know what is the secret. I didn’t know there was a secret. I didn’t know. And as I sought God I came up with a couple of things. First of all, I was taking the Gospel to people who had never heard it. They had not been baptized in religion. They didn’t know anything about God except for what I told them. But here is the real key thing, is the messages that I preached were based always centered on the finished work of Jesus. In other words, what happened from the cross to the throne. What happened when Jesus was crucified, died and was raised from the dead. Because in reality every aspect of salvation, and you know this, I’ve heard you say this. You know, the word “saved” doesn’t just mean born again. It means saved, healed, delivered, blessed, prospered, protected, made whole, set apart. Every aspect of what God offers revolves around believing or what we believe about God raising Jesus from the dead. And when we get people to point their faith to the finished work of Jesus, I’m telling you, everything changes.
SID: What I found, as I listen to your teaching, most people know what you just said, that Jesus died, rose from the dead. But they don’t understand how he did it, what he did and what that really means to us, and that’s almost missing universally from most believers. And I think that has a lot to do with why they’re not activated in being normal according to the Bible.
JIM: You know, I heard Mel Gibson say about the great movie, “The Passion,” it was a great movie. But I heard him say this in an interview, I forgot how long the movie was that was dedicated to what happened to him before he died. But there was probably something like 90 seconds dedicated to his resurrection.
SID: Do you know most movies that you see out of Hollywood, they do not talk about the resurrection. They’ll have Jesus hanging on a cross, but they don’t have his great triumph.
JIM: Yeah. And there’s no victory apart from the resurrection. We have nothing from God separate from what Jesus obtained through the resurrection.
SID: You said in your teaching that Jesus did everything as a man. Why is that important to you?
JIM: The Bible says he became a man like we are in every way, yet without sin. It says that he had to become a man so he could be a merciful and faithful high priest. But it also says he had to become a man so that he could defeat the devil who had the power of death and deliver us from fear. And see, Satan had to be defeated by a man. We would have no victory if Jesus had not become a man. And you know, it says, “He emptied himself.” So as a man, he won every battle for me so I don’t have to win it.
SID: And you go even deeper. He had to do what we have to do. He had to use his own faith. Explain.
JIM: That’s right. Every aspect of his life he never did anything as the Son of God. He did everything he did as a man anointed by the Holy Spirit. And when he lived life and modeled this to us he used his faith. The Bible says, “He grew in grace.” The Bible talks about how God was on him, he grew in wisdom and knowledge. Every miracle he did, he did the same way we do where he trusted God, he trusted God’s word and he spoke with the authority that comes from trusting God’s word. And had he not won those victories as a man, they would mean nothing to us. But then he had to go to the cross and win all of those victories as a man yielding to the Spirit of God.
SID: You know, I don’t want to separate it. But I have this kind of mind that’s trying to do this. According to Isaiah 53, he took every sin of every human that has ever been committed. I mean, it would be bad enough to take his own sin, except he didn’t have any, but so he took every else’s sin. This is unbelievable to me. But he also took every pain, emotional, physical, every sickness, every disease. We have problems with one tiny little disease. Imagine having everything.
JIM: You know, some people say, and this may be true, that that’s possibly why there was an eclipse while he was on the cross, because the Bible says, “He became marred more than any other man.” All of his bones went out of joint. See, he took all of the curse of the Law for us so that there would never be one time whenever we’re in a situation where we have to say, does this curse have the right to be here. You know, I might have done something wrong. There might be some consequences, some sowing and reaping as far as that goes. If I do something stupid I may have those kinds of consequences. But there could never be a time that I can stand and say, the reason this is happening to me is because this curse of the Law is on me, because Jesus not only became my sin, but he took all of the curses of the Law for me. Galatians 3:13, “We have been delivered from the curse of the Law. We are redeemed from the curse of the Law because,” the Bible says , “cursed is anyone who hangs on the tree.”
SID: You’ve dealt in your life with a lot of sickness.
JIM: Oh yeah.
SID: I want to find out about that virus that stuck around a number of days and how you used this principle to get free. Don’t go away. We’ll be right back.
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