Sid: My guest right here in the studio is Martha Kilpatrick from Suches, Georgia. For those that were listening yesterday I got a hold of her book just before our “Days of Elijah” conference. I said “This is a must reading for me,” and this is a… you know Martha when God deals with me, I deal with people that’s the way it works. If it’s going to make a profound difference in my life, and by the way and I believe it will, I called you and I told you that. It’s going to make a profound difference in the listeners. Tell me a little bit about your prayer life because you’re really provoking me to jealousy. What time do you get up in the morning normally?
Martha: Anytime from 2 on.
Sid: Why bother going to sleep (laughing)?
Martha: Well I need 3 hours at least but most every night.
Sid: So when you get up that early and you pray till about when?
Martha: Sometimes till about noon, but most of the time till about 8.
Sid: Tell me what your prayer life is like.
Martha: It’s different every day. Its…
Sid: Yeah I like that because if you get into a ritual and a routine then it becomes stinky tradition.
Martha: Rote.
Sid: Yeah it’s not anything that is good and of God can become rote. Isn’t that the history of every move of God’s Spirit?
Martha: Yes.
Sid: It starts out real and then it ends up just emotions.
Martha: Hmm hm. Boxed in. So I say “Lord where are you going this morning and take me with you.” Much in the scriptures and sometimes He will give me the beginning of the writing and I will start writing in those hours, but most of the time it’s just spending time with Him worshiping.
Sid: Tell me about this book “Chariots of Fire?” Tell me about how you wrote that.
Martha: I wrote it from life experience. I was sort of like Elijah and had the assignment of Jezebel and began to recognize it. I began to look to Elijah for the secrets of how to deal with, live with, conquer Jezebel, and searching the Lord. Really the book was written seeking God’s insight into this story in 1 Kings 17 it was as I call it on my knees. It gave me insights that several have said they have never seen, or anywhere else.
Sid: There are a number of books out today on this subject because it’s a subject God is dealing with, but you have made it in such a simplistic fashion that it’s not way out there “Well that’s for someone else.” This is for every single person that reads it.
Martha: Good. I wanted it to be simple and clear.
Sid: Let’s talk about Elijah. What does his name mean?
Martha: His name means Yahweh is God and that was his mission to bring Israel back to God being God, and to the defeat of the worship of Baal and all the Jezebel gods and he did it.
Sid: What is your spin on Malachi the very last chapter where it says “Before the coming of the dreadful day of the Lord Elijah will come?” What does that mean to you?
Martha: I believe it means, and I saw this as I was writing it, that Elijah will come… Elijah always comes to prepare for the coming of the Lord. As the Lord comes near Jezebel does too. Every valid move of God, in every dynamic place where there’s a work of God Jezebel comes to destroy it. The prelude to the coming of the Lord is the rising of the enemies attack, but the counter to that “When the enemy comes in like a flood the Lord shall raise a standard.” The standard in this case is going to be Elijah. I began to see that in this coming of Elijah it’s going to be a corporate outpouring.
Sid: Well we know about the first coming of Elijah, we know from the New Covenant that John the Baptist came in the spirit of Elijah, and Elijah was battling the religious system of its day. John the Baptist obviously was battling the religious system of his day that was boxing God in so to speak. So what is this corporate Elijah going to battle?
Martha: It’s going to be… Go prepared Elijah in secret, he had a secret life with God and a very solitary intimate life with God. He just arrived on the scene without any record of his past and declared God’s judgment in drought. I believe God is preparing many people in secret with the tendencies or the characteristics of Chris that appear in Elijah. That they’re going to understand the principality and be able to spot it, be able to name it, discern it, and by experience conquer. I believe somehow the Lord is going to make this a corporate move in the body of Christ. It’s not going to be one person, it’s going to be an understanding that he’s going to pour out, and this is just one book of many that I believe God will give to prepare us. This is the real war, the real war is with God’s enemy.
Sid: Now I’ve heard it said “That the days of the superstar will be finished and it will be this corporate anointing. Yet we live in a day and an age and a day where we have media, and whoever is on radio, whoever is on television is a focal point. Will we still have these? Will still everyone being do the works of the ministry or how do you see this?
Martha: I think it will be the same way, but I believe that Elijah’s… you have to watch how the New Testament remembers the character of the Old Testament. The New Testament distills their life to the essence that God finds valuable. Elijah is not remembered for his fiery defeat of the prophets of Baal on Mount Carmel. He is remembered as the quintessential example of answered prayer, not prayer but answered prayer in the book of James. Elijah was a man like us but he prayed and it didn’t rain.
Sid: So we value as what might be important to God is very different than what God values.
Martha: Exactly, exactly we love the sensational but God values the hidden life of prayer. That was thing that God made note of in Elijah in the New Testament as the example, the effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much. So the ones who are praying and assigned this task of the Elijah mantle it will be done in prayer not on the stage.
Sid: What would you say to the person that says “Well I’m not called to be an intercessor. That’s not my calling, that’s not my thing, that’s for other people I’m a doer.”
Martha: I believe every believer has to face the Jezebel – Ahab issue, and if you’re not a praying believer Satan will write the last chapter of your story. It’s essential.
Sid: My goodness that’s so powerful will you make that statement again?
Martha: If you do not enter the arena of this battle, and I believe every believer has to do it. I write in the book “To fail to climb into your reign of conflict is to lose your chance at divine adventure, not to mention your eternal destiny then Satan will write the final chapter of your story.” It is absolutely essential that individuals in churches, and perhaps even nations face, name, and conquer evil.
Sid: Well in addition to reading the book practicing the principals for someone that has a very sporadic prayer life, you know a little here a little there. What would you recommend? They certainly can start at 2 in the morning and go till noon…
Martha: Oh no I didn’t start there…
Sid: I know that but… tell me what a reasonable starting point is.
Martha: I believe the Biblical mandate is early morning prayer, the manna of the early morning, and you begin with 10 minutes. But it becomes a discipline of life that is like brushing your teeth it’s not a big deal. The more you devote yourself to that discipline…
Sid: I want to get practical.
Martha: Okay.
Sid: Someone’s listening to us that’s being convicted by the Holy Spirit, praise God for you Holy Spirit go do Your job. Okay and they said “I can do that. I can do 10 minutes.” So what should they do?
Martha: Get their Bible, get on their knees, and the first issue I think is worship your God. “Your my God and You’ve chosen me,” then to begin to present the issues of your life to Him. The burdens the things you face and seek Him for the answers. There’s a pattern of staying in the scripture as well…
Sid: And the person that says “Oh I’ve done that, been there, God never answers me, I’m too pragmatic, I’m not going to bother.” Respond.
Martha: Well it’s an evitable defeat and that defeat presses you back to the point of starting again because will put the pressure on you. He wants that intimacy, He wants to pour out His wisdom.
Sid: Okay how will someone benefit that reads and does what you recommend in the book “Elijah the Last Day – Chariot of Fire?”
Martha: How will they benefit in their lives? They will begin to have wisdom, insight, discernment, answers, solutions, direction, the will of God will be opened up and that’s the pursuit of that morning time, His will. When Elijah got to Mount Horab I make the statement that in the center of God’s will is protection. That’s the only place of protection.
Sid: And going back to what God showed you of the war that would hit our nation, way back in ’98. If we don’t have this intimacy now how we going to get it during the hard times?
Martha: That’s why God warns us in advance. He answers before there’s a question and the necessity is to build the relationship as you would any other relationship.
Sid: Give me an example just out of the blue of a housewife that is dealing with a Jezebel or an Ahab spirit, give me an actual example of where could there be a Jezebel spirit in this housewife.
Martha: Okay, I’m thinking of someone, she would be a controller, she would manipulate, use flattery, seduction, if it’s in the woman. She would manipulate the situations to gain what she wanted, she would have the decisions, she’d make all the decisions. The husband would be…
Sid: A wimp.
Martha: …forced to acquiesce, and yes. He would for fear of her rage… a Jezebel is an issue of rage…
Sid: Oh oh, we’re out of time.
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