Sid: I pray that you’re experiencing the outpouring of God’s Spirit that I’m experiencing right now people are being healed as they are listening; people’s who’s neck’s, you have a problem you move your head you’ll see your neck is healed. If you’re in a position to bend over you’ll see that pain gone your spine is healed. Backs are being healed, I mean there are multiple healings going on right now and isn’t that interesting that’s what I’m going to be talking about today because I have on the telephone Michael Hinson. Michael Hinson and Joan Hunter; Joan is the daughter of Charles and Francis Hunter, have a brand new book called “How to Heal the Whole Man Handbook.” And I’ll say this it’s revolutionary they take each disease, show you the causes and show you exactly how to pray. I mean you’ll want to take this with you and people that when they read this they order multiple copies of this book because there’s a teaching up front and this is so you can minister healing to others which is what you’re created to do but many need to be healed themselves. You start out by getting yourself healed. Now Michael before we went on the air you told me something that I actually have never heard before. I have heard of, and interviewed people on the air that have had meetings where everyone is healed. But I have never talked to anyone that has had multiple meetings where everyone is healed; especially in the United States; tell me what’s going on.
Michael: Well, this is new to me I just tagged up with Joan a couple of years ago Joan Hunter. And her mom and dad very gifted and you would see a lot of people healed in all there meetings and it was prophesied over and over again that Joan would receive a double anointing from her mom and dad. And in traveling in the meetings with her for the last two years I’ve been in meetings in the United States where I have seen everybody in the room healed. I’m talking about people who came in with oxygen are totally without it and are still without it to this day. People that are yellow jaundice with cancer and pain racked their body; the pain would leave them before they left the meeting; their skin was totally pink; it’s been six months for some of them. We get emails from them and their absolutely totally cancer free. People that are on the lung transplant list their doctors are calling us looking for what happened because they’re not on the list anymore and their lungs are like an 18 year olds, absolutely totally healed. I’ve seen this in many many meetings in the United States; it was rare to see it in a meeting overseas but in the last two years I’ve seen it repeatedly and the majority of the people in these meetings are healed.
Sid: Now when you have these meeting where the majority of the people are healed. Is there just like a special anointing that shows up; what’s making the difference you’re the same?
Michael: The thing that is different is that is that Jesus healed multiple ways; the Bible talks about that. He moved in the gifts of healing, he moved in faith and you had to minister when people had the faith for healing. And then also He led people through repentance; John the Baptist just led the nation, the Jews through repentance when Jesus came in. So that many of them already had hearts set; had repentant hearts. Jesus came and He ministered to the people. He told them the truth and truth set them free. The stuff and was inside of them that needed to change got changed and they got instantly healed. Joan in the meetings, and the meetings that we have, it is not uncommon to go in and to minister all three ways. And when you do you reach people in every direction they’re absolutely totally healed.
Sid: The thing that excites me is that most people cannot or will be at your meeting but everyone can get a hold of this book. Now there are certain areas in this book things that you teach I have never heard taught by anyone before. For instance, I’ve read and heard many books on forgiveness but you have a totally almost new insight into the whole subject of forgiveness. I wonder if you would explain that.
Michael: Well, that’s real easy I was taught from a young kid that God for gave sin so my question to everyone “If God forgave sin then why did Jesus have to die on the cross? Why didn’t God just (sound of Michael blowing into telephone) pour His Spirit out and everybody’s sin is forgiven. If God forgave sin why did Jesus have to die on the cross God could just forgive it and it would be over.” But the Bibles says Roman’s 6:23 “The wages of sin is death.” And we know that forgiveness doesn’t come without shed blood. So that we know that if blood has to be shed and the wages of sin is death, then God didn’t come; Jesus didn’t come to die for sin He came to die for sinners. He didn’t come to redeem sin from the world He came to redeem the sinners that would come to Him. Jesus died for people, He didn’t die for sin; and the Bible says that God separates the sin from the people as far as the east is from the west. Or actually in another version said “He cast it into the sea.” And actually that’s the picture of someone throwing a net and really deep water and losing it; what’s the chances of them ever getting it back; they won’t. But we’ve been taught many times to forgive sin. So we try to forgive somebody’s sin that they did, what they did that was wrong and try to say that it is right. But God doesn’t even do that.
Sid: Alright, let’s get real specific let’s suppose someone at a young age was molested by an uncle, and they’re Christian, and they believe now as an adult they must forgive that person but they’re having trouble. What would you advise?
Michael: This is the easiest of all and that’s what makes this so simple. You don’t forgive the sin, the sin is sin you can’t forgive the sin. But what you can do is choose to separate the sin from the person. We use a tissue box as an example and it’s really common and we say that the tissue box is the person and the tissues inside that box are the sin. We lead them through a prayer and the prayer is very simple they say this and the people that are hearing this on the radio listen to this and you may need to say this yourself.
Sid: I tell you why don’t you just say that prayer I’ll repeat it and people will repeat it with me?
Michael: Okay that’s easy enough. Father
Sid: Father
Michael: What they did to me was sin
Sid: What they did to me was sin
Michael: Take this sin from them
Sid: Take this sin from them
Michael: and separate it from them.
Sid: and separate it from them.
Michael: and put it on the cross of Jesus Christ.
Sid: and put it on the cross of Jesus Christ.
Michael: and free them from it
Sid: and free them from it
Michael: and on the day of judgment
Sid: and on the day of judgment
Michael: I’ll hold no accusation against them
Sid: I’ll hold no accusation against them
Michael: they’ll be free of this sin.
Sid: they’ll be free of this sin.
Michael: even now they are free.
Sid: even now they are free
Michael: Father, bless them.
Sid: Father, bless them.
Michael: in Jesus Name.
Sid: In Jesus Name.
Michael: It is the separation of sins not the forgiveness of sins, many times in our own conscientiousness try to forgive people thinking that we’re forgiving the sin almost saying that it’s okay, it’s all right. The sins not alright, the wages of sin is death, but the person can be alright if we separate the sin from them. That’s what God did for us.
Sid: But what happens if it’s say a spouse and the spouse has forgiven their husband, but the husband keeps doing the same sin over and over?
Michael: That makes it tough because that’s the part… Peter said “Jesus I’ve got this sin thing down but how many times am I supposed to forgive them; seven times seven? And Jesus said “No, seventy times seven.” If you take it to the Greek it means even for the same sin.” Now if you were to sin against me 490 times in one day one of us would need therapy by the end of the day, but what God was saying it’s His nature to forgive people who keep coming back in repentance. That’s His nature and we’re to develop His nature and to release that.
Sid: So you actually… forgiveness occurs whether that person that has wounded you repents or not.
Michael: When Steven the first martyr was being stoned to death no one cried out in asked for forgiveness when he chose to forgive them for stoning him to death. When Jesus was on the cross He chose to forgive and He told us with the measure that we use it will be measured back to us. In fact in the Lord’s Prayer it says…
Sid: I’ll tell you what I want 100% forgiveness.
Michael: And to do that you have to forgive 100%, if anybody from your past were to come and sit down beside you right now and it would change your breathing pattern, your past or your present. Someone you think you forgiven and they would come and sit down right beside you right now and it would change your breathing pattern my question to you is why? If you were eating sitting down at dinner tonight or at a restaurant and somebody from your past or present comes and sits down beside you and it would change the way you enjoyed that meal my question is why?
Sid: Okay let’s take that as a literal example; someone sits down in the restaurant and you are uncomfortable what do you do about it?
Michael: Okay, this again is very very simple. All you have to do is ask the Holy Spirit why? Ask God why, He will tell you He will show you in a minute you’ll be able to see in your heart if you’re willing to open your heart up what you’re uncomfortable with. Chances are it’s either something that you’re holding in your heart it could be judgment, unforgiveness, it actually could be an ongoing sin that other person is responsible for. But you know that people that are in sin are hardest to reach out to them with compassion. The Bible tells us to lead them in correction if they’re a brother or sister in the Lord; but that we should have compassion in our heart for them. And if we have anything other than compassion then that means that something inside of us needs to change in which case we can release them from the debt. Jesus told people who didn’t release others from debt they were no different than the tax collectors. And the tax collectors used to sit outside of the wall of the city and they wouldn’t let you into the city until you paid the debt that was owed to Caesar. Many of us are like that today and we think that people owe us a debt, and unless they pay that debt to us we’re not going to let them in our heart. Husbands and wives quite often do that to each other because the other spouse hurt them and they’re not going to let them into their heart until that other spouse pays the debt. But Jesus said that we’re to release that debt, freely release it. Did they deserve it? No, they really don’t probably don’t but we didn’t deserve it either and Jesus freely gave it to us and that is part of His nature. If we have God’s nature in us and we do as Christians then we’re to freely give forgiveness just as freely as He gave it to us in fact with the measure that we use is measured back to us.
Tags: its supernatural, Sid Roth
Tags: its supernatural, Sid Roth