Sid: Now where ever I go who ever I talk to the question comes up at some time “Do you think the Messiah Sid is returning in your life time? Do you think the Messiah is returning soon; what do you think? Well, something it just plain doesn’t matter what I think. It matters what the word of God has to say. And that’s why my guest, many of you are familiar with him he’s been a guest previously on the Messianic Vision. Perry Stone who is the President and Founder of Voice of Evangelism in Cleveland, Tennessee. He’s written his latest book which deals exactly with this question. The title is “Unlocking Secrets in the Second Coming Scrolls” subtitle “Searching for the Time of Christ’s Return.” Perry I assume you’re just like me people are constantly asking you this question. And you know when you have events such as 911 which happened just literally thrust the world into a new dimension of war against terrorism.
Perry: It creates even more interest in what is said in scripture or is this in the scripture or where does it go from here. So I think the interest in prophecy and what the scripture has to teach about the future is probably higher at this time than anytime I’ve ever seen it.
Sid: And as we were discussing before we went on the air about your favorite profit; your Dad.
Perry: (Laughing)
Sid: He didn’t know when but he definitely has been having visions from the Lord about terrorism.
Perry: Well, Dad has been used by the Lord ever since he was 17 years of age in the area of dreams and visions. And he’s a very humble man, he doesn’t even like to discuss it publicly.
Sid: That’s probably why God is using him. (Laughing)
Perry: I’d say so, I’d say so. And that’s one thing that people mean by his humility and just real simplicity.
Sid: Well, he’s got a real…listen you guys have got to come here because my wife has said to me lately, “I want to see men and women of God that demonstrate humility. I hear a lot of preaching but I want to see someone that demonstrates it.
Perry: Well, he’s had 16 people that have been healed of cancer just at his prayer life of traveling the past 7 years. And some of it’s been pretty dramatic miracles; so he’s in that line. But I don’t ever, people could ask me “What has he seen?” I’ll always rather for him to describe it. But Dad has been in prayer up in West Virginia and has seen some things that he really feels are planned by the enemy which are future attacks on the United States. And we do know if we look at scripture one of the things that we talk about in our books is the weapons of mass destruction in prophecy. There are some very strange verses in the Bible that indicate that there’s going to be some type of weaponry used in the future that the prophets had no clue about possibly 50 years ago that we would had no clue about. But now we can look back and read the scripture and see how those particular things which are mentioned which are so bazaar could actually come to pass in our day and time. One of the things that we wrote about and this is where the whole interest came to me was you’ve probably heard this and I’ve heard this taught. That the oldest prophecy of the return of the Lord was given to Enoch. And the book of Jude says “Enoch the seventh from Adam said “The Lord will come with 10,000’s of his saints.” And of course Enoch is a picture of the believer who will be caught up to the Lord because he Enoch was translated according to the scripture. But I did some research and I was reading that Josephus; and you know Josephus was that historian that lived back before or at the time of the destruction of the temple. And in his book “The Antiquities of the Jews” he mentioned how God had given a prediction to Adam; and Adam is the first man that the earth would be destroyed two different times. First by a volume of water and secondly by a quantity of fire. In other words water the first time, fire the second time. And so that the discovery would not be lost the descendants of Adam, you had Adam and then you had Seth and Seth begot Enoch and Enoch begotten M Cain and Cain begot Megonalilli it goes all the way to Noah. Who was the 10th generation from Adam. So that’s the righteous lineage; that lineage is. That lineage according to Josephus in brick and in stone in case the flood would destroy one of them the other would survive. Now Josephus makes a very strange statement. He says “In the land of Syriod to this day is a monument that tells about Adams prophecy. Now we don’t know where that is today or we don’t know what happened to that. So I was intrigued by that; we do know that Noah’s flood fulfilled the first part of the prophecy 1658 years after the creation of Adam. That’s approximately the time Noah is building the arc and he’s preparing in the time of the flood. But the second half of that ancient prediction has not happened which says that the earth would be destroyed by fire. Now Peter talks about how the heavens and earth have been kept in store to the day of fire and there would be a purging of fire. We also know in the book of Revelation it talks about how the heaven’s would depart like a scroll. And what we do is we put all of this information together and it’s interesting that when you look at some of the weapons that available at this particular time in the history of the world that if those weapons were in the hands of the wrong people. That these ancient prophecies that were so bazaar years ago that people did not understand that you can actually see how they are going to come to pass in our day and time. So the clues in our book, the clues we actually go from Adam to Noah which are the first 10 generations of the Bible. And we show people how the clues to the return of the Lord are actually locked in the names; the patterns; the cycles; the numbers ecetra are mentioned in those first 10 generations of the Bible. And Sid I know that you know this verse in Ecclesiastes 1 that says “The thing which has been is that which shall be.” And Ecclesiastes 3 I think it’s verse 15 emphasizes that again. In other words if you want to know what is going to happen in the future there will be a pattern somewhere in the past that will reveal what is going to happen in the future. So that pattern of what is going to happen in the future relating to the rapture; relating to the signs of Noah’s day and the last days; relating to the return of the Lord are actually found in those very early chapters of the book of Genesis.
Sid: And you know Perry is; I mean this book has got information that very few Christian’s are aware of. But one of the things that God has literally had you on a search of is understanding Jewish roots. Because without understanding Jewish roots there’s so many nuances in scripture that are missed by the average Christian.
Perry: Well, you know let me give you an example of that. You know Paul in Roman’s 11 talks about the olive tree. And he calls Israel the natural tree and the Gentiles the wild tree. Well you know when the olive tree get real old it get’s hollow. And what they will do is they will go up into Galilee and get a wild olive tree branch and they will cut it into the side of an old olive tree and it brings new life both to the tree but the root of the tree brings life to that branch. And it takes 3 days when they make the cut and they seal it up; it takes 3 days for it to actually seal you might say. Which is interesting because Christ was in the grave for 3 days.
Sid: Hm.
Perry: And then the word for the cut; the actual cut that they make in the olive tree is the same Hebrew word used for heir in the New Testament. We’re a heir with God; we;re a joint heir with Jesus Christ because we’ve been grafted into the covenant. And what is interesting it gets…unless a person for example would understand the olive tree and how they operate or how they work with olive trees in Israel then Roman’s 11 the grafting in; the nourishment that comes from the Jewish roots to the Gentiles would not be understood. And the Paul even said that there would come a day when the Gentiles would go into unbelief; and that God would focus His attention back to Israel. And He would…there would be a re-grafting in process for those natural branches would be re-grafted in again. So there’s your example that we don’t have olive trees over here; I’m sure they do in California in certain places but I don’t know of any in Tennessee. And so we read that and we don’t understand the rich Jewish picture that he’s getting there we won’t get all of the information now. And Sid to be hones with you when it comes to the coming of the Lord; when it comes to such things as the rapture; which an English theological word which we use to describe the event of the gathering together and the catching away I 1st Thessalonians 4:16 & 17. When it comes to these things if we have a Jewish understanding then the whole picture becomes clearer and it actually can clear up sometimes some of the controversies that you hear circling around.
Sid: Well, I believe buried into everyone of the Bible Jewish Festivals are keys to understanding the return of the Messiah.
Perry: Oh, there is no doubt.
Sid: But let me go back to something you start with in your book; you talk about the Prophet Daniel and everyone’s familiar with this prophecy.
Perry: Right.
Sid: On of the prophecies that he has for the last days is “Knowledge will increase.” But you gave it a little different spin; explain.
Perry: Well, you know when the Bible talks about here’s what it says “In the last days many shall run to and fro and knowledge shall be increased. We understand that to mean that knowledge of about flying and that type of thing. But I also believe that there is a level where in the last days certain things which have been hid to previous generations will be knowledgeable or it will be unveiled or it will be made known when the time comes for that particular thing to be fulfilled. I’ll give you an example; “One hundred years ago and men shall receive a mark in their right hand or in their forehead; all men will receive this. Well, you’re sitting there 100 years ago saying “Now how will that be possible; it talks about buying with the name or a number.” They weren’t even buying with numbers 100 years ago; so we see that verse. We see the verse where it talks about “Every eye shall see Him.” Well, 100 years ago people would say “How is this possible?” But now we understand it through satellite; you can be in one area and take a satellite picture and all the way around the world with 3 second delay they can watch what’s taking place anywhere in the world if they have a way to tapping into the up-link. So my concept of knowledge being increased is not just saying “We have computers now; we have television; we have this now.” It’s to say for the first time there are certain scriptures in the Bible that did not make sense to people but now make sense. How could the gospel be preached around the world before the end could come?”
Sid: Perry, the time is up.
Perry: (Laughing)
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Tags: its supernatural, Sid Roth