Sid: My guest is Steven Books that’s red hot for the Messiah. Steve and his wife Kelley were guest teachers on one of our trips to Israel. There are a couple of things that I remember about that trip to Israel Steven. One, there were amazing aromas in the atmosphere near where you were praying for people, do you remember that?
Steven: Yes, the Holy Spirit loves to bring forth the fragrances of the Lord Jesus in the meetings. And when that anointing starts flowing we really get over into the glory realm.
Sid: And what are the different aromas, roses, what else have you seen?
Steven: Well the first and foremost fragrance that comes forth is roses but there’s all types of fragrances that would be considered like high end perfumes like you would think that you went into a high end perfume store in Paris. The Holy Spirit begins to release these.
Sid: Why does the Holy Spirit do that?
Steven: It is a manifestation of God’s love for His people so when God’s people begin to smell these fragrances it is a token sign from God that I love you and it is an expression of His love that is actually tangibly perceived through our sense of smell.
Sid: And of course people were healed, tell me about the person that was healed from MS.
Steven: Well she had Multiple Sclerosis for 20 years in severe pain every day and this was while we were there in Israel of course and I laid hands on her and prayed for her and she was instantly healed. Now this has been 4 years now she contacted my ministry 2 weeks ago just to say hello. She said that she’s still completely healed, no pain in her body it totally left her that day when I prayed for her in that meeting.
Sid: You know when I see you operate and I know what you teach it’s hard for me to believe that you had to unlearn some bad teaching from being a brand new believer. But you know what most people have to unlearn some bad teaching.
Steven: That’s true isn’t it Sid we have to renew our minds. When it talks about in Roman’s 12 verse 2 about renewing our minds that word renew actually means to renovate. So you can take an old house and renovate it and make it brand new, that’s what I had to do with my thinking because I had years and years of teaching and thinking that there’s no more miracles today. The supernatural has ceased.
Sid: Steven did it ever cross your mind the devil’s supernatural, look at all the sickness ad disease, that hasn’t stopped; so why would God’s supernatural stop?
Steven: Right.
Sid: It doesn’t even make logical sense.
Steven: No it doesn’t and I’m sure that the devil just loved our teaching because we also because our ruling out the supernatural just ruled him out as well. And he likes it when we act like he’s not there, we need to be aware of his activities. Now our focus is on the Lord but the supernatural is certainly all around us and we need to be aware of that.
Sid: How did you get your breakthrough I mean I’m always reminded of playing tennis. They always say “Get some lessons rather than just figure it out yourself because you’ll figure it out wrong and you might as well do it right the first time because it’s twice as hard. How did you get your breakthrough from being taught and the theological term is sensationalist? In other words the miracles have ceased, how did you make the change?
Steven: Well that old saying that it’s better caught than taught I started seeing it; I started seeing miracles in meetings. I started seeing people healed and so I had to question my former theology. And not only that the Holy Spirit began to touch me and it wasn’t just like I was watching others but the Lord began to touch me. And I began to have unusual encounters with the Lord and I got filled with the Spirit and my life began to change. And so the power of God for the first time became a reality in my life.
Sid: Wait, was there a point where you thought “Well maybe this is the devil because of all of the training you had.” I have to tell you myself because I got saved at 30 and I was involved in the New Age before I became a believer.
Steven: Right.
Sid: And the first thing I saw of the supernatural “Oh, that’s what they did in the New Age.” Well the devil had me coming and going. What happened was the New Age was the counterfeit of the authentic, when I saw the authentic I said “Oh, it looked like the New Age.”
Steven: That’s right.
Sid: I mean the devil had a field day with me I’m just curious with you.
Steven: Well I just when I saw it I was just running for it just wide open so to speak and I had to trust the Lord that I wasn’t going to get how can I say burned. But I felt such joy and when it’s the Lord there’s a holiness, there’s a peace, there is a purity and it just removed any doubts and it removed any misgivings and I knew that this the Lord, this is too pure, this is glorifying the Lord. And so the deeper I went with the Lord the greater Jesus was exalted before my eyes I knew this is all of God.
Sid: What was the first miracle that either you received yourself or you prayed for someone that was very notable?
Steven: One of the first miracles that really touched me was a personal miracle. I had torn a bicep muscle in my arm and I also tore a chest muscle doing weight training exercises and at once the Lord healed both muscles. I felt a divine warmth come over my body and also that presence of God that was so engulfing with love and peace and then it stayed on me for about 2 minutes and then it lifted. And when it lifted I knew I was healed that those 2 muscles were either reattached or something miraculous had happened. Because even on my chest muscle when I was working out I heard and felt it snap it felt like a rubber band snapping. And I thought “Oh Lord, I’ve torn my pictorial muscle.” But I went out after that tremendous visitation of God’s healing power and I went out and did a full work out. No pain, no trouble, no stiffness just as if they had never been torn in the first place.
Sid: You know one of the things I’ve noticed Steven is that when someone has a victory in an area, someone had cancer and they were healed of cancer. They have extraordinary faith for anyone with cancer.
Steven: Absolutely.
Sid: And as you were sharing what God did for you the presence of God got so strong that I believe that you could pray right now for people suffering from torn muscles and pain and they’d be healed.
Steven: I believe that God will do it right now. There’s somebody with a knee, your knee has been damaged and as we would say in sports “You’ve blown your knee out.” The Lord’s going to heal that knee, if this is you and you have a torn muscle you’ve damaged yourself whether on a job accident or sports injury. Put your hand on that body part right now. “Lord Jesus I release Your healing power now into that body part, be healed in the name of Jesus.” Now receive that healing power, receive that healing power and begin to move your body around you’ll begin to see that that pain is leaving that the miracle is unfolding right now.
Sid: I have to tell you Steven when my producer first told me about your new book “How to Operate in the Gifts of the Spirit” and your 3 CD set, “Experiencing Miracles in Your Everyday Life.” My first thought was does the world need another book on gifts of the Spirit?” And so I questioned her. What she said to me is “This is the first one we’ve seen that is really a how to not just theory.” You teach from the scriptures, you pray, you talk about how God uses you in these areas. And it’s not just a how to book, but it’s so simple.
Steven: Yes.
Sid: How could all the gifts, the 9 gifts of the Spirit be so simple?
Steven: Well I wanted to demystify the gifts. Sometimes we view the gifts as only operating through super-ministers might have an international type ministry and we might think “Well I could never experience something like that.” But the gifts are for the believers and it’s potentially available for a believer to experience all 9 gifts operating in their life. But we have to understand what they are so I made the teaching just as simple as possible. The teaching is thorough, the teaching has depth, but at the same time it’s practical where even a teenager or a child reads the book they’re going to be moving in the gifts of the Spirit.
Sid: Now I know you operate in all 9 gifts and you know it’s one thing for someone to teach theory but it’s much better for someone to teach that something that they have actually walked through but what are your strongest gifts Steven.
Steven: The strongest gifts are the ones that pertain to my primary calling along with preaching and teaching the word I need the gifts of the Spirit to confirm the word. So for me it is the gift of special faith and gifts of healings followed by the working of miracles. So I put a tremendous reliance on what would classify as the power gifts because I need them in almost every meeting. Because if I’m going to pray for the sick I need these gifts to be in manifestation; if they’re not in manifestation I’ll still pray for people but I’m just praying now by faith. But when those gifts come now I’m not just praying by faith it’s faith coupled with the anointing in a divine empowerment that goes beyond anything Steven Brooks has.
Sid: Tell me one miracle that because of the operation of the supernatural gift of faith.
Steven: We’ve had many miracles Sid take place in the ministry over the years. While we were in Israel in 2009 for instance there was a young man 14 years old that had flat feet, flat as a pancake. He took his shoes off, took and looked at his feet, I had already prayed for about 200 people. He was the last person I prayed for and most of the crowd had dispersed. And I told the remaining people, about 20 people. I said “If you want to see a genuine bonafide miracle with your own eyes come watch the Lord is going to create arches in this young man’s feet.”
Sid: How did you know that?
Steven: Special faith, super faith came on me and I just…
Sid: Now when super faith comes on you is it a knowing, is it a feeling, what is it?
Steven: It’s a feeling that makes you bold, so bold that you would do something… you would step out and do something you wouldn’t normally do.
Sid: Like walk on water. (Laughing)
Steven: Absolutely, you wouldn’t normally do that because you know that you’re going to sink. But that gift of faith comes on you you’ll step out and step into something that is beyond your own ability to do. So that faith came to pray for him to receive a miracle and I knew that he was going to get it and I asked people to watch. And I said “When I pray don’t close your eyes, keep your eyes open watch his feet. And I held his feet in my hands as he sat down, I held his feet in my hands and I began to pray for the left foot and before I could even get the prayer out “In the Name of Jesus” ooh arches appeared. A perfectly formed arch appeared, and then the other foot a perfectly formed arch appeared.
Sid: You know Steven that sure beats orthotics! (laughing) That’s the best the world can do.
Steven: Hallelujah.
Sid: Oh, we’re out of time…
Tags: its supernatural, Sid Roth
Tags: its supernatural, Sid Roth