SID: Hello, Sid Roth here with John McTernan and we were finding fascinating history that very few people understand of how the American church was instrumental in the formation of the nation Israel in modern times, explain.
JOHN: Sid, we have been talking about that revival taking place in America and the Jewish people pouring in from Russia, and the church saw the plight of the Jewish people, they were destitute, Sid, they were poverty stricken, they were beaten emotionally, and it touched the heart of the church and the church said it is time for the Jewish people to have a state. So, it started, actually in 1881 what history records at the Blackstone Memorial, William Blackstone was a Christian evangelist and he kind of rose to the head of this movement and he had a letter prepared to the President of the United States, who then was President Harrison, asking for the President o declare an international conference for the creation of what we call today, The State of Israel, so that the Jewish people could be safe and have a state. And it was signed Sid, by over four hundred of the most prominent Americans, this was not just an isolated segment, we had the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court signed it, the Speaker of the House signed it Sid, future President McKinley signed it, mayors, governors, senators, leaders of the – like D.L. Moody, the famous Christian evangelist, he signed it.
SID: You know we don’t hear things like this, what we hear, as a Jew what I hear is Theodore Herzl and Zionism, and that did it, but you are telling me underneath that was the Christian influence.
JOHN: Sid, it was the spiritual foundation for it, it was the literal spiritual foundation for the modern state of Israel was birthed primarily, somewhat in England, but primarily here in the United States. And in 1916 Lewis Brandize, who was an associate Chief Justice of the United States, he had a Zionist Congress in Philadelphia and in that Congress he invited Blackstone to come and be the chief speaker and Lewis Brandize identified Blackstone as the Father of modern Zionism. The early Zionist attributed a Christian evangelist as the, I have got that quote in my book Sid.
SID: Listen you have so much, but what I want to find out Is, God has shown you there have been what you call warning judgments and now we are even past that. When did the day, can you pinpoint when the blessings started, the blessings have been on America that is obvious, but when the blessings started to lift, can you pinpoint it?
JOHN: You can pinpoint it to the day Sid, October 30th, 1991, when President Bush Sr. initiated the Madrid Peace Process and we have to understand that Peace Process is that Israel must give away Covenant Land including Jerusalem for peace. That was initiated by the President of the United States with the power of the United States behind it and from that day Sid, to this we have had disaster after disaster after disaster, you know as you mentioned, the top five disasters, including economic are connected with this. And Sid, there is an urgency on me now, because we have spoken in the past.
SID: I believe that John McTernan is a modern day prophet and what he is about ready to tell you is what is going on inside of him, and it is going on inside of him because the Spirit of the Living God is causing him to say this.
JOHN: Sid, when I was on your previous shows we were kind of talking about things in the past if you remember, and now it is current, we are talking about current things. And Sid, I have trouble sleeping at night because of the feeling of the judgment on America, as I was telling you, it is settled like a fog over our nation and it is really boiling down to Jerusalem. Sid I have here in front of me a speech that President Bush gave on July 16th , 2007, and in it, it is kind of a lengthy speech and it is too much for me to quote, but what the President says in this speech is that, he specifically says, “It is time for the Israeli’s to forget about the West Bank, and to look towards the Negev and to look towards the Golan Heights but to forget about the West Bank because it is going to become a Palestinian State, and then he mentions Jerusalem, Jerusalem is going to be the key in this, and Sid, on that, that was a Monday, and Thursday the Stock Market reached an all time high of over 14,000 points and them on Friday the sub prime loan, the debacle hit, so if you take from today and we look, we have had the collapse of Lehman Brothers recently, we have had Merrill-Lynch, we have had Bear-Sterns, we have had Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, these gigantic banks and lending institutions collapse, if you trace it all the ways back it goes back Sid, to July 20th of 2007, that was the Friday following the President’s speech to divide Israel and Jerusalem. So I believe that a curse has come on America, on our finances because of the Presidents policy, he has America, he has put the power of America on the Israelis to divide Jerusalem.
SID: Well why is God so upset about dividing Jerusalem? I mean maybe we can have a little peace in the Middle East.
JOHN: Sid, God has a COVANANT with the Jewish people over the land, and specifically you can look in the Bible in Zachariah chapter 12:13 and 14, specifically talk about Jerusalem and not to touch Jerusalem.
Not to touch it Sid. The nations that touch Jerusalem the Bible says will be destroyed.
SID: Listen, the living Bible says in Zachariah, “He that touches Israel is the same as someone that pokes their finger in God’s eye.