SID: Hello Sid Roth, your investigative reporter the supernatural here with Kris Vallotton. And I am so excited because Kris moves in the office of prophet. I mean, he just staggered me with a prophetic word before we went on the air and he has a school; his Bethel Church has a school in which he is raising up people to move in the supernatural of God, but in particular prophecy. Now Kris, I move in the prophetic but I want to move deeper. I want you to give me some tips.
KRIS: Well one thing that you need to do is learn how the Holy Spirit speaks. You know that God isn’t human, and his first language isn’t English.
SID: I found in dreams I get; you know what? I tell God, I say God I don’t want this multiple guess; I don’t want this symbolism; talk to me like you did Moses: face to face!
KRIS: And you know, the more clearer God talks to you, the more responsibility you have for the word.
SID: Okay, forget it then. (laughs) No, no – I’m just teasing.
KRIS: You know one of the things we need to do is be responsible with the, with what God gives to us and remember that…
SID: If I can trust you with little things, then I can trust you with big things.
KRIS: That’s exactly right. You know when God started training me in prophetic ministry; I shared on this show actually; how I came out of the whole demonic oppression, and when I came out of that, a still a small voice stayed there. And I mean, I began to you know; I told you I heard demonic voices and had visions and all and when those voices left a still small voice stayed; and the Lord would give me things to do. He would tell me – one time, here’s an example: I’m coming out of 7/11 and there is garbage coming out of the garbage can out all over the ground you know and I go to leave, and the Lord says pick up that garbage. And I’m like, and the Lord says pick up that garbage and I drive all the way home and I’m sitting at the dinner table and the Lord says pick up that garbage. I get in my car drive all the way back and the Lord says, until you can be faithful in the little things that no one sees I will not let you minister to my people. So for years; two months later, I wake up in the morning and I say Lord; you know, I’m learning about the prophetic ministry; and I say Lord, I really want to be used by you. And he said okay, I said so give me some exploit today to do. Because one of the things that he was teaching me to do was, I was prophesy my day. I would write it down and I would write down what I thought the Lord was telling me was going to happen that day.
SID: And did it happen?
KRIS: Yes, and I would start checking it off if I got it right; if I understood…
SID: Wait, wait Kris, someone is watching us right now, and they say “Well I can’t do that!” What do you say to them
KRIS: I would say that when you received the Holy Spirit, that having a relationship with God; part of having a relationship with God is communication. Some people tell me well I don’t believe in prophetic ministry; I don’t believe it’s for today. I say, well do you believe in prayer? Well of course I believe in prayer. I say, well when you pray, do you do all of the talking or does God talk to you? No, God talks to me too. I say well does he ever talk to you about someone else, like your friend? Well yeah. Well do you tell your friend what God said to you when you were praying? Yeah. Well, that’s prophetic ministry in its simplest form isn’t it? I mean it’s simply saying what God is saying. It doesn’t mean you have to use King James; it doesn’t mean you have to yell or have some full voice. It simply means that you are sharing with somebody what God said to you so he’s saying it through you.
SID: Now out of curiosity do you tell your students to do this?
SID: To ask God what am I supposed to do today?
SID: To write it down?
SID: Give me an example of one student.
KRIS: One of the, let me give you…yeah! Here’s a good example; we do street ministries, so the students adopt a neighborhood, a poor neighborhood, and for nine months while there in this school they minister in that neighborhood; and not just supernatural ministry; but they actually wash toilets, cut lawns. I mean they do random acts of kindness…
SID: You’re talking about acting like a real servant.
KRIS: Yeah, they serve, but they also bring the supernatural in to that ministry, much like Jesus did. Two of my students: one of them is named Chris and the other Scott; they’re walking down the street in their neighborhood that they have adopted, this is our neighborhood, you know, this is our neighborhood right here. They’re walking down the street, and there is a gal she is probably 19, 20, or 21 years old and she’s walking away from them and they said, “Hey, can we talk to you?” And she said “No. I know you’re a Christian; get away from me! I don’t want anything to do with you Christians.” And so Chris says to her “If I can tell you something about you that I couldn’t have known unless God showed me, would you listen to me?” And she says “Well, I don’t know; I guess so but I don’t want you to get close to me.” So he says to her “Well, I saw you with this little newborn baby and you were giving it away.”
SID: That’s pretty specific.
KRIS: And she said, “Yeah, I had a baby I put up for adoption.” And Scott says to her “Yeah, and I saw you were, I don’t know if you were like in a gang or something, but I saw you get knifed right here, right there (points to a place on his stomach).
SID: Now you’re really getting specific.
KRIS: She lifts up her blouse and she has a scar right there and she says “I was in a gang and I got knifed right there.” Is that amazing?
SID: That’s wonderful.
KRIS: Now suddenly it says God knows me. God knows me, and they had an opportunity to share Christ with her.
SID: Okay. Question:
SID: You tell your students to do this; you tell them these wonderful stories of how God is working with you. And so student number one writes down some things and he says “Oh, this is just me,” and he goes out and he tests it and it was just him; it wasn’t God; what do you tell him to do?
KRIS: Try again. Because one of the ways that we learn; you know, we’re practicing. We’re not practicing, we’re not practicing with the Holy Spirit; we’re practicing to see how we learn to discern the Holy Spirit’s voice. Because you, there’s four sources of voices: there’s your spirit of course, there’s the Holy Spirit, that’s the person were trying to build a relationship with; there’s evil spirits and we talked about it on your last show. First John four says “Beloved, don’t believe every spirit. Test the spirits to see if they’re from God.” So obviously, beloved people can hear the wrong spirit; and there’s angelic spirits. So you know, we, I think the biggest struggle we have is between our spirit; because when we get saved, our spirit gets renewed so we have a good spirit, right? And then we have the Holy Spirit which is not just good, but Holy Spirit. So we need to learn how to discern between good: our spirit, and God.
SID: And that’s what you teach your students?
KRIS: Yeah, one of the things they do, can I give you an example?
SID: I’ll tell you what, hold that thought. Give me an example, and I want you to prophesy to the people when we come back after this word. Don’t go away, because Kris may speak directly to you. Be back in just a moment.
SID: Hello Sid Roth your investigative reporter of the Supernatural, and have we got a show – I’ve got Kris Vallotton, and if you saw what happened to him; I mean three and a half years he was shaking; he was a Christian and he found the authority of God’s Word over the demonic realm and he got so excited he can’t keep quiet about it. Today he’s a pastor of a thriving church and he’s been tested and tested and he’s found out that God’s Word is true if you only understand it. And he had a battle with fear that no one should have to go through and he found that one Scripture literally set him free. And we were talking right after the show, and I said Kris would you pray for me? And he started praying and he started telling me things about Russia. He has no idea! I just returned from Siberia and I mean it’s called a bull’s-eye Kris! You hit a bull’s-eye and I love it because there are so many people that do not hear from God and they have all the counterfeit around. There’s a psychic type network and the new age and the all these things, but you just hit it right. And I know, I knew ahead of time, you do have a prophetic ministry and it’s a wonderful thing. You told me you just got back from a former communist country; and tell me what happened there.
KRIS: Well, God told me, I went to Romania. And so I’m on my way to Romania and you know how it is flying that far, I’m exhausted…
SID: Oh, I know how it is! Oh, I know how it is.
KRIS: We get all the way to Romania, I’m totally exhausted; never been to Europe before, get off the plane and I’m looking for a place to sleep.
SID: I understand.
KRIS: When my feet touch the ground, the Lord says to me, “I have given you Romania.” Given me Romania? What does that mean? Well, you know the Bible says “I’ve given the nations as an inheritance.”
KRIS: Well, I’m like given me Romania? So I’m like, I just want to go to sleep. So okay, so we travel another day and a half traveling in automobiles we finally get to, you know Transylvania is the area that we were going to. We get into Transylvania, first church I’m supposed to preach in this church, you know I’ve never spoke in Romania before; got a translator; all that stuff is going on. I’m sitting in the congregation; wild church; 120 people crammed in this building that should hold about 70; young people just…
SID: I love young people.
KRIS: Yeah! And the Romanian young people are on fire. So I’m sitting in this church and there’s a young man sitting on the very front row; never seen him before; just get there. So the Lord says “See that young man?” I said yes. He said, “He’s going to be the President of Romania.”
SID: Now wait a second – that young man?
SID: You’re going to tell him this?
SID: Did you hesitate?
KRIS: No. I said he said “He’s going to be the president of Romania?” And I said “Okay Lord. And the Lord said, “I want you to tell him.” I said, “Lord I’m not going to tell him that”, the Lord said, “If you don’t tell him, he won’t be President.”
SID: That’s pretty strong.
KRIS: Yes, it’s like the Lord, like this is a co-laboring thing where the Lord says, “Call out his destiny so I can release grace on him for it.” So I’m like really nervous. I’m like okay first time I’ve ever been to Romania; I don’t know what’s going on. I don’t know this boy. I don’t know; I don’t know who this kid is. So I get up to preach and the young man is my interpreter. And so he stands up and he interprets my message and when he gets all done I said to the pastor, “I have a word for this young man, my interpreter; would it be all right if I share it with him?” He said “Yes, please do that.” So I come up to the young man (and I won’t give his name on here) but I said “John, I have a word for you,” (his name wasn’t John). He said “Okay.” I said “I feel like you’re called to politics.” He said “Okay.” I go “No, that’s not really true,” I said “I feel like you’re called to be the President of Romania,” and as soon as I said “You’re called to be the President of Romania”, tears just started pouring down his eyes. He started weeping like profusely and I said “Well, does that mean something to you?” Well of course, when someone says you’re going to be the President of Romania; obviously it should mean something to you; and through his tears he said “When I was eight years old, God, Jesus came into my room, sat on my bed and He said, “John (obviously his name is not John), John you’re going to be the President of Romania.” Is that wild? And he said “I want you to study three subjects: history, government and English.” And he said to me through his tears “I have been faithful since I was a little boy; since I got that word; I have been faithful to study history, government and English; because the Lord told me I was going to be president of Romania.”
SID: Why did the Lord need you to tell him when he had already told him as a young child?
KRIS: Well I think: two things; I think there’s confirmation involved; don’t you?
KRIS: Because sometimes you have an experience and you’re like what was that? Would anyone ever believe this? But secondly, I believe that prophecy, and we’re talking about prophecy here. You know, the psychic realm, Acts chapter 2 you know, verses 16, 17, and 18 says in the last days I will pour out my Spirit. And one of the manifestations of the Spirit being poured out is that: your sons and daughters will prophesy, your old man will dream dreams, your young men will see visions and you shall prophesy, and they shall prophesy it says. And so one of the manifestations of the outpouring of the Holy Spirit is that the prophetic ministry begins to dramatically increase in the earth doesn’t it?
SID: It, hey, it increases, but to pick someone out of a crowd and say you’re going to be President of your country; that’s pretty wild.
KRIS: That’s pretty wild isn’t it? And I believe that you know, the whole psychic thing that’s happening, I believe is just that the enemy can‘t stop prophetic ministries so he just…
SID: Muddies the water…
KRIS: He duplicated…yes like in the days of Moses; remember when Moses threw down the snake and the sorcerer’s threw down their snakes? And it’s like he can’t stop the power of God so he tries to duplicate it so it takes the edge off of it.
SID: That’s pretty, pretty amazing. Now let me ask you something – I know you have a school of ministry for young people.
KRIS: Yes we do.
SID: Or for all people, but mostly young people are in it; are you finding that all of them can prophesy?
KRIS: Yes. We have a school called Bethel School of Supernatural Ministry. And we actually create a culture like the prophets of old. Do you remember Elijah and Samuel and Elisha; they had a School of Prophets
SID: I know
KRIS: Isn’t it amazing? So we developed, not just the prophetic gift of course, but the whole supernatural ministry…
SID: I want to find out some tips about prophesying; how you can prophesy. Don’t go away, we’ll be right back after this word.
SID: Hello Sid Roth your investigative reporter here with Pat and Patty McEnnerney, and what happened to them should happen to no one. Pat was driving his car; he is under drugs and alcohol, he falls asleep at the wheel, and something shook him. And he had just recently accepted the Lord. But he was still into, still an addict. His wife in the meantime, Patty had given up on him. She said God he is yours, but she had some kind of a supernatural assurance that when she gave up God would move. And so he gets home and he recognizes that his life was spared, and he has a visitation from heaven. What happened?
PAT: Well, I knew these two scriptures: one was God was not a liar, and the other one was, God was faithful to forgive all those that asked. And you know you said I was still an addict, yes. Many in the church today are still addicted; they still have false Gods, but what happened at that moment, when I realized the scale was removed from my eyes. As I slipped out of the bed, under the conviction of my sin, and I repented and I asked God to forgive me. At that moment, I looked through the eyes of Jesus at myself. And saw in a moment the love God had for me. And that love, just absolutely transformed me and I jumped up because it was phenomenal; and as I jumped up the Lord declared to me as audible as you are listening to me right now, not only are you healed, but you are delivered and I have transformed you. And I fell to the floor and got back up because of the love was so powerful. And I started hollering, crying (laughs). My wife came running upstairs thinking I had lost my mind and I said no you don’t understand.
SID: Wait a second, Patty, when you saw that, what was going on, besides you thought he had lost his mind?
PATTY: Well, I thought he was hallucinating, I mean, I thought he had taken another drug, and I thought I was going to lose him once again. But no, you know what? The Lord told Pat that I wouldn’t believe it. Now isn’t that interesting; because I had already released it, but you know sometimes we don’t believe what God says to us. And we have to remember, we have to go back and remember that he has given us a promise, and so it was shortly after that that Pat had a job – in a bar. I didn’t know that. He went, he came home smelling of smoke, and I thought for sure he’d been out drinking. And he said, no honey; I had a job to do and I’m home now.
SID: When did you start realizing you knew things about people; you could pray for them; and people would be healed; when did this occur?
PAT: It was a process; it took nine years of walking with God; Ten years, and then I came to a place where I couldn’t sleep anymore. I just had to have the power of God. And I would wake up crying out to God, either give me your power or take my life. I could not live as a hypocrite any longer. I must walk as you’ve commanded me to, and that’s to pray for the sick, cleanse the leper, raise the dead; cast demons out. God’s no respecter of persons, so I went through this process and I consecrated my life. And it was within two years from that time, Patty and I went to a Holy Spirit Workshop and a man jumped up from the table, and ran over to the both of us and he said, God has called you both into a healing ministry and he’s releasing on you right now a double portion of anointing to raise the dead. And the power knocked my wife out; she hit the floor like a sack of potatoes. And that weekend was a transformation; we turned the corner.
SID: Tell me, because I find this so hard to believe about that person that was blind, and what you saw before your very eyes.
PAT: This precious lady was in Kama ridden Africa. And I was preaching in a public situation. There were bars on the sidewalk, and all these people came up and I just started praying for people. And she came up because she was paralyzed. And as I laid my hands on her face and rebuked the spirit of death, God totally healed her. And without using my prophetic gifts, it was obvious that she was blind; she had no pupil. And so in Kama ridden, they are French speaking, and I had the interpreter ask this precious lady, would you like Jesus to heal your eyes. And it took forever for her to respond, and it was like, “Can He really do that?”, and finally she said “Oui”. And so I had my hand up on her eye and I said, Father in Jesus mighty name, I thank you for this creation miracle and I pulled my hand away quickly; because I had been waiting for God to create an eye. And I knew it – the anointing was falling like a river. It was like a waterfall dropping around me. And so the interpreter, I had the interpreter say, ask her to open her eyes, and she opened her eyes. What can you see? And she said you look like a tree! I really got excited over that, because that’s Biblical. And so I prayed again.
SID: I know, but what, I mean there was no pupil. Did you see a pupil now when she saw the tree?
PAT: No, nothing.
SID: Okay. No pupil, but at least she could see the tree with no pupil.
PAT: No, no, but my hand
SID: That’s quite a trick.
PAT: Yeah, yeah. But she could see, probably without an eye, if God called to do that.
SID: Of course
PAT: So I laid my hand back down; I prayed again and I pulled my hand away and as she opened her eye this time, I saw a mist form around her eye and her eye went (blows). Just, it was there! I just watched God create this…
SID: You saw it before your very…
PAT: I saw God create a pupil, and recreate her eye that she could see.
SID: Patty I wish I could’ve seen that. I’ve heard of these things. I’ve seen people healed, but to see it recreate right before, I mean a creative miracle.
PATTY: I am waiting for that myself Sid; I haven’t seen that with my eyes. I mean I have seen ribs that are protruded go back, and I have seen legs grow out, but I am waiting for that creation miracle as well.
SID: Now when you pray for people according to my notes here, there is a fire that they see, explain that to me.
PAT: Well, I don’t know if I can because it is supernatural, but many times when I am ministering in the anointing, fire will actually fall out in front of us, and people sometimes…
SID: Will people see this? Will anyone besides yourself see the fire?
PAT: Yes, pastors of the churches where we are ministering and even those that don’t believe in God see and smell it. And you know it is a supernatural thing, it is hard for the mind to even try…
SID: What is going on when that fire is there?
PAT: Tremendous deliverance, usually it will take out groups of people and demons will start coming out of people and they will manifest and hit the floor and there will be miracles of healing.
SID: The demons hit the floor or the people?
PAT: The people hit the floor,
SID: The people (laughter)
PAT: They are overwhelmed with Gods manifested presence, his love.
SID: So, so let me ask you, if you pray on this next segment, we can have these types of miracles? Don’t go away – I know you won’t – we will be right back.