SID: Hello, Sid Roth here with Rabbi Kirt Schneider, and this is amazing, this Jewish man had no reference at all, no understanding at all about Jesus, no one had shared the truth about Jesus to this Jewish man but Jesus loved him so much he came to him in a night visitation and he has since become a Messianic Jewish Rabbi, and I just coincidently got an article from a Toledo newspaper here, The Blade, and let me read the first paragraph, it says, Rabbi Tovia Singer of New York will speak of the topic Jesus was a Jew, but, can a Jew be for Jesus, there is only one acceptable answer to that question according to the Rabbi, an emphatic “no”, well Kirt, you did answer in the newspaper, I have the answer here, but would you answer that question right now if you were eyeball to eyeball with Rabbi Singer, what would you say to him?
RABBI: Well I would say that if Yeshua is the Messiah then you can certainly be a Jew and believe in him, and that is really what it is all about, of course we know we face, I have faced tremendous antagonism from the traditional Jewish community because of my
SID: Listen even your own family according to my notes, when you embraced Yeshua as the Messiah; your brother literally hit you?
RABBI: He was so frustrated, he was so frustrated that he felt like he had lost his brother, that he didn’t know me anymore, and so yes, it was a very difficult time for my entire family. lost almost my entire network of Jewish friends, very, very difficult, and the bottom line is either Jesus is the Messiah or he is not the Messiah. And if he is the Messiah, the traditional Jewish community is wrong, and that is what my simple answer is to Rabbi Singer.
SID: But even if he is, why would you risk being, I mean your parents not understanding it, your brother so angry he wants to hit you, even if he is, so why don’t you just kind of keep it to yourself, why so public.
RABBI: Because I’m so excited about it, I can’t help it; I mean it’s who I am.
SID: Okay, I am fascinated by your series and I told you this over the telephone, “Prophecy, Dreams and Visions,” because for the first time, I have had dreams from God in which I have had literal dreams, but most of them are symbolic, and I haven’t, to be candid, I haven’t understood the symbolism that much, and I read a bunch of books on it and to tell you the truth, I got even more confused from all of these books I am reading on it, so I was so delighted to get this, but you were talking about a medical doctor, tell me that story.
RABBI: Well, Ben Carson, a gifted surgeon, in fact one of the most renown surgeons in the world, and I read his book many years ago called, “Gifted Hands” and he tells the story, Sid, in the book how he was in medical school working at the same time, and he fell behind in his studies because of the heavy responsibilities he was carrying, he was a, he went to work one night planning on studying for the exam when he got home that night, which was to take place the next day, he got home, he was so tired, he began to study, he was so far behind in his studies he got overwhelmed, he fell asleep, was not able to study for the exam. But in his sleep that night he had a dream, and in the dream Sid, he saw a test, a medical exam, and not only did he see the medical exam, but he saw the answers to that exam in his dream.
SID: That’s my kind of test.
RABBI: There you go, wouldn’t it be great if they were all like that? When he woke up the next morning and went to take the exam, he couldn’t believe it when the exam that was set in front of him was the same exam that he saw in his dream the night before, and he remembered the answers that he saw in his dream, he wrote them down and obviously today he is one of the most well known surgeons in the world, you know dreams have been fascinating to me, because my life in Yeshua began with him revealing himself to me in a vision in the night. I remember in Bible School, Sid, back in the mid-1980’s, we had a dog and he was a beagle and we lost him, he just took off, he ran away, he was gone for several months, I forgot about the dog, but one night I had a dream that we found the dog, the next day I got a phone call, someone found my dog. So I really began to pay attention to my dreams
SID: Yes, but are you just someone special, I mean that God works through you, I mean not everyone has a dream where they can be an eyewitness of Jesus being crucified for them, so you must be obviously someone special.
RABBI: Well I believe that the purpose of dreams is God is communicating with us, and obviously his purpose is to communicate with every single one of his children, no question about that. And the scripture says in Joel two, and in Acts two, which quotes the fulfillment of Joel two, that the experience of those who receive his spirit will be (1) they will be able to speak by the inspiration of the spirit, and (2) they will be able to see in the spirit, and thirdly, that they will dream dreams, so dreaming dreams is simply a way from receiving revelation from the Lord in the night. I believe that when we are sleeping we are loosed from a lot of the things that our mind is occupied with during the day
SID: But isn’t that an ancient rabbinical understanding?
RABBI: It is.
SID: Explain that again.
RABBI: Well if you are a work and you have a responsibility, and you are sitting in front of your computer trying to get this job done in time, I mean you are probably not thinking much about receiving a word from God; you are occupied with the business at hand. But when you sleep you are loosed from a lot of those things and it is in that state that we are oftentimes more receptive to hear God’s voice and all we have to do is look in the scriptures, look in a concordance under the word dream, or dreamed, and people will be amazed to see that dreams are one of the most common vehicles that God has used from the beginning with Abraham, Joseph, Yeshua’s dad Joseph, Paul, one of the most common vehicles God has used scriptural from the beginning is he communicates to his people through dreams, and I believe it is because we are more receptive, let me just make this last comment, in Job chapter thirty-three we have some comments by Job’s friend Elihu, and Elihu was the one friend of Job’s that God did not have harsh words for, because Elihu gave Job good counsel, and this is what Elihu says in Job 33, he says God speaks once, yea twice, but no one listens when man is sound asleep in his bed. And so he is saying God is speaking while we are sleeping but we need to be paying attention if we are going to hear.
SID: Listen, pay attention, don’t go to sleep right now, you can do that later, but on the next segment I really believe there is going to be revelation knowledge so that you will get dreams from God, just listen, don’t go away.
SID: Hello, Sid Roth here with Rabbi Kirt Schneider, and the prophet Joel, it’s just like it was written today, says that in the last days we are going to receive supernatural visions, supernatural dreams, in which God is going to literally direct our activities. I have Rabbi Kirt Schneider, Kirt the last thing in the world you ever thought you would be was a Messianic Jewish Rabbi, I’m sure.
RABBI: Ain’t that the truth.
SID: I mean your big goal in life is to be the top wrestler in your high school, tell me about that.
RABBI: Well, I thought if I could become the state champ at the weight class that I wrestled at growing up, that was symbolic to me, Sid, of conquering the world. And I envisioned that I was going to become state champ, the referee was going to raise my hand, chills were going to go through my body, and then for the rest of my life I was going to sit in the lounge chair on the beach and enjoy the sunshine and bask in the glory, I was not prepared for life after wrestling and I came to a rude awakening when I stepped off that wrestling mat after wrestling my last wrestling match in high school.
SID: I assume you lost.
RABBI: You know, I don’t, well I would have had a loss because I would have been in the state tournament, so yeah that is true, I got to the place in my own mind I kind of achieved my goal in the sense that I was wrestling at level where I thought there was nobody that I couldn’t beat, but I never did achieve the goal of becoming state champ, although I did get a small scholarship to college. But the thing was that wrestling to me, my world was made up of people that wrestled my weight class, and I didn’t think beyond that, and obviously life is much bigger than people that wrestle at 119 pounds in high school.
SID: Okay, so you’re frustrated and you do what I did, I come from a traditional Jewish background, and I figured that money would bring me happiness. Personally I got into the new age; you started reading books about gurus, and one night, what happened to you?
RABBI: At the age of twenty years old in 1978, as I slept in my bedroom Sid, in Pepperpike, Ohio, an eastern suburb of Cleveland, at 3:30 in the morning the Lord awoke me from my sleep, now let me day that no one had ever talked to me about Jesus, I was bar mitzvahed in a conservative home.
SID: Wait a second; you are in Christian America, what do you mean no one ever talked to you about Jesus?
RABBI: All my friends were Jewish, I only had one friend, I only had one friend growing up that wasn’t Jewish, and he happened to wear a big cross around his neck, but not because he was a Christian, he was the toughest Italian in high school, and I used to follow him around just to watch him beat people up, so no one told me about Jesus.
SID: Okay, so you had no center of, no frame of reference whatsoever.
RABBI: Zero, and this night at twenty years old, I was lost in life, wrestling had ended, I lacked identity, I lacked purpose, I was reading a book at the time as you said about a guru from India that didn’t, in the book there were pictures of him levitating off the ground. I said, “God if this is real,” I said, “I want to be able to do this,” and it was during that time of seeking at the age of twenty that the Lord awoke me, 3:30 in the morning, and suddenly with my eyes closed Sid, I was aware that something was happening, it was as if I was being supernaturally transported into another dimension, it lasted no more than three seconds, Jesus appeared on the cross in this vision at night, it was in color, I could see the terrain that the cross was staked in, there were people in the distance that looked on, at him, even later as I read about in the New Testament that they looked on from a distance, and then a ray of red light beamed down on his head, and when I saw Sid, the ray of red light from straight through the sky, beam down on Yeshua’s head, I knew it was coming from God, because the beam was coming from straight above, and that God was telling me that he was connected to Jesus, it lasted like I said, no more than three seconds, but I knew that God had revealed himself to me, I got out of my bed, looked at my clock radio like I said, it was 3:30 in the morning, and that was the beginning for me of seeking after Yeshua, Jesus.
SID: So what does someone that doesn’t know any Christian, now believes that Jesus is real, obviously by this experience, in fact it was almost as if you saw him being crucified.
RABBI: Yeah, that’s exactly what I saw,
SID: I mean the actual event.
RABBI: I believe it, I tend to believe that what I saw was that God supernaturally transported me back in time 2000 years to literally see the site of the crucifixion.
SID: So I guess you told your parents the good news, what did they say?
RABBI: Well, they didn’t say much at first, because they thought it was just a dream and it would be over in a few days.
SID: Now were they very religious Jews?
RABBI: No, not at all, but they were very much Jewish, you know very much, my Dad said I’m a Jew from the top of my head to the bottom of my feet, I mean very, very strong in their Jewish identity, culture, social relationships, network etc, so they didn’t react much at first because they thought I would stop talking about it in a day, but when they saw that I was serious, and I didn’t stop talking about it,
SID: It’s a fad; he’ll outgrow it.
RABBI: Exactly, so they eventually you know, became very upset, very humiliated, their Jewish son walking around their Jewish neighborhood talking about Jesus, and they hired the most famous deprogrammer in the country to come from California, they flew him in from California
SID: Did they trick you?
RABBI: They did trick me.
SID: Really, how did they do that?
RABBI: Well my dad told me we were going to go talk to somebody about purchasing a restaurant, and so I thought we were going to be in business together, well he had some business, but it wasn’t for me to be in the restaurant business with him, and basically we walked into a hotel room and the door shut behind me, and the deprogrammer said, he was there with two guys that were you know kind of his body guards, and he said we are going to talk about cults, and from that point on I couldn’t leave, I mean I physically had one of them
SID: Did you ask to leave?
RABBI: Yes I did, I said I’m not programmed, and he said well you’ve got nothing to worry about. I stood up and said well can I leave, and one of his bodyguards said sit down. So they took me to California for a couple of weeks their idea was if we can get him away from whoever is programming him then he’ll snap out of it. I really, I felt bad for my parents actually, they spent so much money, it cost them thousands and thousands of dollars, I felt bad for them that they wasted so much money.
SID: Now wait a second, you just had this vision out of the blue, had you started reading the Bible?
RABBI: No, I knew nothing about Jesus, I had never, I mean no, it was, Jesus was a non issue for me, I mean I never thought about him, never talked about him one way or another.
SID: That is amazing, so this deprogramming, it doesn’t sound like it worked.
RABBI: It didn’t you know what, it was a shame, because they didn’t even do anything, once the initial session was over they took me to California to their rehabilitation house, which was just again, to get me away from whatever they thought was programming me, they took me to the beach at day and the bars at might, and that was it.
SID: Yes, then how come you ended up in a mental institution?
RABBI: Because when that didn’t work, they figured we got to do something, so they hired a Jewish psychiatrist from Cleveland, with the agenda up front before even having met me I believe, of having me probated to the mental ward, so they could do whatever to snap me out of this thing, and one day I came home and they said you know, we’ve got somebody coming over and this Jewish psychiatrist comes over and we sit down, and I begin to tell him about Jesus and what would have happened to me if it wasn’t for Jesus and I literally, you know, was impressed with myself that I had such a strong witness I felt,
SID: I’m impressed!
RABBI: This Jewish psychiatrist, but he just sat there and listened and he was just waiting to bait me, you know, so that I would tell him I had a vision of Jesus, and then what he did, he went to the courts and said this guy is delusional, we need to get this guy where we can help him, and so I came home a few days after that and there was some suitcases that were sitting at the door, and I walked in and my parents said, listen, you know, we’ve probated you to the mental, you know to the mental institution.
SID: This was a legal thing; you could not say I’m sorry; I’m not going on this trip.
RABBI: In two months they give you a hearing, and so they released me than after two months. It wasn’t actually a mental ward; it was the psychiatry wing of a hospital.
SID: Sounds the same to me, but I’ll tell you something, this must have been quite an impression on Kirt, from no framework at all to literally being eyewitness of Jesus dying for him. Well let me tell you something, God is using this young man in a way that is going to so benefit you, in a way that you will understand your dreams clearer than you ever have before, be right back after this word.
SID: Hello. Sid Roth here with Delores Winder. So if you just came on, Delores had this horrible, horrible disease. She was given a death sentence. They severed her nerves so she had no feeling. They don’t even do this type of surgery today. And this doctor walks up to her, has a word of knowledge, tells her to take this off. This is a body brace and a neck cast. She takes it off. I’m still amazed you took it off, Delores. And they carry her up to the platform where Miss Kuhlman is there. And what happened next?
DELORES: Then she said to me, “Walk.” And I said, “I can’t walk.” And I had very little voice because the second cordotomy, when they went through the throat, paralyzed my vocal chords. And I didn’t think she heard me when I said “I can’t” because she said, again, “Walk.” And I pushed my foot out to show her I couldn’t. It came up off the floor. It came down on the floor and I thought, I feel the floor. No you can’t feel the floor. But I had to get the other foot out because the man had not moved up and my body was so crooked I knew if they let go of me I would fall. So I pulled the other foot up and it came off the floor. It came down and I thought, I feel the floor. No you don’t feel the floor. You can’t feel the floor. And suddenly I felt my fingertips started going up. And they said I was looking at my hand and they got up so far and I started screaming, “I can feel! I can feel!” She told me to walk. She had no idea what was going on. I ran on the platform, came back, and she said to me, “Bend over.” And my doctors could only bend me so far. And I started to bend over and realized I was free. I could bend. And I touched the floor. And there was a doctor from Dallas sitting on the platform and he didn’t believe any of this. And he said, suddenly a hush fell, and he looked up and he saw my body straighten, and he said, “If that doesn’t make me a believer out of you, nothing will.”
SID: In other words, he saw your body crooked and could see it straighten before his very eyes.
DELORES: Yes. And he said, and the next year he introduced us at the Methodist Holy Spirit Conference. But I was in shock because I didn’t believe anything like this.
SID: They tell me that you ran.
DELORES: I ran.
SID: And you don’t even remember it. How could you run? How could you do that, Delores?
Delores; I don’t know.
SID: Okay. This great miracle occurs. She goes home in a state of shock. I have to ask you, what did your son that was so important, your adopted son, say when he saw you?
DELORES: He ran out to the car and I was getting out of the car by myself and for the first time that he ever saw that happen, and he picked me up and started carrying me across the street screaming, “You were healed! You were healed!” But before we went we had an incident where he said me, “Mother, you’re going to be healed.” And I said, “No honey, that doesn’t happen and I’m not coming home any different than I’m going. But I will have an answer for you. Can you understand that?” And he said, “Yes ma’am.” And I jokingly said, “That was my last Methodist Presbyterian Sunday school lesson. Miracles are not for today.”
SID: How about the doctor? What was his reaction?
DELORES: He was so amazed. He was waiting for a phone call from Bill to say that I had died. And when he walked in the room I told him, “Don’t tell him I’m here.” When he walked in the room and saw me. He said to me, “What’s happened?” He said, “You look different. What are you doing?” And I said, “I want you to check me.” And he started checking me and he got me up on the table, and I could turn over by myself. And he started running his hands down my spine. He said, “It’s straight.” And this shoulder was so bad that he couldn’t touch it before. And he was pressing on it and said, “Is that hurting?” And I said, “No, it’s not hurting.” And finally, he looked at me and he said, “I suppose you want me to use the pin, too.” And I said, “Yes.” And he barely touched my foot and I said, “It’s sharp.” He said, “All right.” And he said, “That’s all. Tell me what happened, but let me sit down.” And he sat on his stool with tears just dripped. And I said to him, “Van, tell me another way this could have happened.” And he said, “There’s no other way. This is truly a miracle of God and you have work to do for Him.”
SID: I would like you to see her husband, Bill, in his own words describing the worst state that Delores was in and the change.
Bill (video): She was in, we were in the kitchen and she was beating her fists upon the wall saying, “Lord, why don’t you take me!” Last they weighed her, she weighed 73 pounds and I’m sure at the time of healing she weighed less than that. She was one, in fact, when she got those percutaneous cordotomies, they’d go into the base of the spine and they’d fill all of hers for the feeling of your body. When she got that she was able then to maneuver a little bit more than usual. I never did this to the sense had to carry her. I had to assist her in and out of bed and so on. We had a hospital bed. And thought when she got the percutaneous cordotomy it would mean that she was naturally going into a wheelchair and that was it. And the type of person she is, she wouldn’t accept that. So she would, in fact, around the house, she’d push a chair around. She walked like a spastic person at first because she could not have any feeling. She didn’t know where her legs were. In order to move one leg she had to look down and see which one was forward in order to move the other one. So but to say which is the worst time, I don’t know. It was all pretty traumatic. I guess the first thing I really noticed was her back was straight. It had never been because her one leg was an inch and half shorter than the other because the hip had crushed up. She’s the only person in this world that we know that was healed of percutaneous cordotomies. It’s an irreversible process.
SID: Well Bill had a brand new wife. In fact, she was so new that she would start teaching Bible studies. And one of the things she disliked about Kathryn Kuhlman was when Kathryn Kuhlman would touch people the Spirit of the Living God would be so tangible it would literally push that person over and they’d fall to the ground. Delores, what happened at your Bible study?
DELORES: We got a phone call. Someone was in the hospital in critical condition. Well we prayed. We started praying, and I knew I didn’t want to touch anyone because my hands were hot.
SID: Why were your hands hot?
DELORES: I didn’t know yet. But I understood I didn’t want to touch anyone when my hands were hot. And this woman had trouble getting up and I went to help her up, and when I did I brushed against another woman who fell over her, and then I stepped back and brushed against somebody else and they fell. And then going out the door I had a woman in a wheelchair, and I didn’t know what had happened. But as I was going out the door I brushed against her and she fell out of the chair, and I was shook.
SID: Now all these people at this Bible study that are falling down under the power of God, Delores is very reluctant in all this. Did you put your hands in your pockets so they–
DELORES: I did. I did.
SID: I believe you did that.
DELORES: I did.
SID: And so she doesn’t know what’s going on. She then finds out all these people are being physically healed and over the years, you see, I believe Delores Winder received the same anointing that Kathryn Kuhlman received. I believe that the miracles of Miss Kuhlman are the same miracles that occurred with Delores Winder And she has put together keys of knowing the Holy Spirit like Miss Kuhlman did, keys of understanding healing that are vital, that’s almost been lost to this generation. Not almost been, has been lost to this generation. So the question I have for you is, do you know the Holy Spirit?
SID: Do you, Miss Kuhlman would say, “I don’t want to even go on a platform without His presence being on me.” The way you know the Holy Spirit is to know Jesus.
SID: And then ask the Holy Spirit to fill you with His presence. Do that right now. I feel it. Don’t you?
SID: Hello, Sid Roth here with Jeff and Theresa Hurlbert. Unbelievable. He goes from a million dollar business in three months. Just one little drug, tailspinned, lost his business, lost everything, finds himself homeless living in his car in a church parking lot and now his car is going to be repossessed and he knows that he is dying. At two or three in the morning he hears a fight going on, explain.
JEFF: Well, I used to seek refuge in this parking lot and at probably three in the morning the inside of my car seemed to expand, maybe twelve feet high and twelve feet out. And in front of my car a fight erupted but at that time red light encompassed the car and I was thinking to myself, the police are here, they have their lights on and I’m going to go to jail. But this fight, I never heard any word but it was two very large, I would say men or beings, just erupted in front of my car and came onto the hood of the car.
SID: That’s all you need was a fight. You just want to die. There was a fight going on, on top of your own car.
JEFF: Exactly; the car is shaking and I’m holding onto the steering wheel and I’m thinking to myself, this is nuts. The fight goes to the roof and the car is rocking and all of the sudden, it was like gone, totally silent. And it was in the middle of winter and I broke the door open because it was frozen shut and nothing, nobody was around. And I heard God say, I have come and I am fighting for you tonight. Because I had not drank or eaten, I knew my body was shutting down and I felt like I was one foot in the world and one foot in maybe the supernatural realm and I think that I would have died that night if not for God.
SID: So you determine that you are going to pull your life together, you call home, what happened?
JEFF: Well I called home and my parents who had been praying for me for more than a couple of decades said, if you come here we have absolute support for you. If you stay where you are we will pray for you.
SID: So you immediately decide, I’m going home and you get in your car to go to a drug rehab type of program and your car breaks down. So what do you do?
JEFF: It did. In the middle of Oregon my van blew up and I heard the Lord say to me, if you don’t get out of this van it will be your coffin. And it just so happened that I was able to get to an off ramp after walking for many miles and the first place that I went in, there was a man there and he gave me twenty dollar bill and he said I knew that you were coming and I want you to go get something to eat.
SID: you didn’t have any money and you’re probably famished.
JEFF: Yeah, yeah. And so, the only restaurant is across the freeway. So I make my way towards the restaurant and I realize halfway across the overpass that there is a desire to throw myself over. And so I ran and I did get a bite to eat and on my way back I knew, I’ve got to cross that bridge again. And I just prayed. And got enough strength from God to make it across. And my father actually came and picked me up.
SID: Now how many hours away by car was that?
JEFF: Now here is something that is think is phenomenal. He was ten or twelve hours away by car, he says he knows, he remembers none of this, but he felt like he just got in the car and drove to me. But it was only about three or four hours later. I can’t explain that.
SID: So time was compressed.
JEFF: It was important, because I don’t think that I would have made it.
SID: So you’re about ready to go into this drug rehabilitation program and you’re listening to some music and something amazing happened to you, what happened?
JEFF: Well I had an open vision that I was this beat up dog. The kind of dog that you might see in a back alley somewhere, just abused and not fed. And I saw the hand of God go over me and I knew that this dog was symbolic of me and the condition that I was in. and as God placed his hand over me fleas jumped off and I knew at that moment that I had been set free in an instant.
SID: You were instantly set free of your total addiction?
JEFF: Instantly. Absolutely.
SID: So, fast forward, he’s free, he loves God. Were you a youth pastor at the church that you were at?
JEFF: I was.
SID: Alright, a youth pastor, and Theresa comes to play her flute, prophesies over him, the rest is history, they’re married today. Tell me some miracles that you two have seen, like the person that needed a new kidney.
JEFF: Right, a lot of times, and I think it’s so fabulous that God has placed us together because our giftings really match. I can see people in the congregation or in the audience or even if it’s a bigger group, I can see, he shows me people that it would most affect and most speak to the group. I invited this young man up and I knew because of my experience that he was on drugs, that his kidneys were shutting down and it was a dire situation. And I felt like God said, I want you to pray for his kidneys, I am going to give him new ones today and I’m going to heal him. I’m going to set him free.
SID: Boy that’s stepping out just like your wife steps out in the studio, with no music to do a recording session.
JEFF: It is, and you really have to be able to just do that and so I said everything that I heard and as it turned out he had just gotten out of the hospital from being in a coma, kidney failure because of drugs. And we still have communication with him today.
SID: What happened to the kidney failure kidney?
JEFF: It got healed. He was healed.
SID: My goodness, you’re taking that a little lightly. That is very dramatic.
JEFF: It’s incredible.
SID: Tell me about someone else that was healed. I like to hear people being healed.
JEFF: Ok, one of my favorites, we have loads of stories. One of my favorites is a Cambodian woman, seventy something years old, broken back three times, crooked, walked with a cane hunched over and her desire was to go to Cambodia to spread love to her people, and be a servant to her people. She can’t because in Cambodia a lot of the roads have big pot holes and she can’t walk so it’s been impossible for her to go. Well at one of our concerts she got miraculously healed, I heard the Lord say, have this woman put her hand on her back pray for healing for her. The next morning she came into the service, no cane, dancing, jumping up and down and saying Jeff, guess where I’m going!
And I said, Cambodia! Miraculously healed.
SID: You know, I’m reminded of that young man that was homeless in the car and that big fight that was going on, and God literally spoke to you and told you that he was fighting over your life at that point. But you were praying for a visitation from Jesus and you got it. Tell me what happened.
JEFF: Oh my gosh. For three years I prayed that Jesus would come into my room. I kept reading about it. He visited many people and I wanted to be one of those people. So for three years I prayed every day, all day, and he never came. So I have to honest and say that I got a little upset and said, you’re not coming. Well three months later he came to my room. And at five in the morning I woke up, it was January twelfth, 2005. At five in the morning I woke up and sat on the edge of my bed and coming out of my mouth supernaturally were the words, take courage and be of great faith. And I remember walking into the bathroom and looking into the mirror and seeing myself speak in such a fast tone that I remember looking and saying, Jeff, you’re weird. But as I went back and sat on my bed, a man walked by my doorway. And I remember thinking that there’s a man in my house. This is strange. So I walked out and looked down the hall and there he was. He had his back to me and I didn’t at that time know what was really going on, but I said hi. And when he turned around the magnitude was so intense that it threw me to the ground. And wearing Levis and a red shirt, hair about down to here, I looked up and the air in the room was snapping and crackling. And the molecules were spinning like they didn’t know what to do. And I felt like, I am so overwhelmed that I might not even be able to take another breath. At that time I was able to get up and he was gone, and I was able to move into my bedroom and I paced back and forth and I remember saying to myself, he’s here, he’s here. What do I do? And at that moment I realized that he was standing right behind me. And as I was turning to look at him he put his right hand on my right eye. I remember seeing his pinky and his third finger, and I fell. And at that moment, I don’t know how long I was out, but for quite some time.
SID: What difference has it been since this experience in your life?
JEFF: I am a completely different person.
SID: It’s as if the veil has been removed.
JEFF: Absolutely. Even my penmanship is different.
SID: I tell you what, I have asked Jeff and Theresa to play music to God that will go right through your television, right through the DVD and meet you at your greatest need. Jeff has changed. Theresa has changed. And you’re about ready to be changed. We’ll be right back.