Sid: Hello Sid Roth here with Kathi Oates, 28 years a
pastors wife, plastic smile, everything is fine, but her heart
was broken, and she just didn’t know what to do about it
and so she went for help, she said I don’t know about you
Gary, but I am going for help, I cannot take it the way this
is, and someone was praying for you and you saw a wall.
Kathi: I saw a wall, I did and I asked the Lord what’s the
name of the wall because sometimes we don’t know things
about ourselves and God knows all truth about us.
So I heard the word fear, and I asked the Lord,
“Lord just come and minister to that wall.”
And it’s like in my minds eye I saw a big ball and chain
come and smash that wall, and then I saw behind the wall
a little part of who I was, in fact it was a big part of
who I was, and I asked the Lord, “Who is that.”
And I heard, “Fat Kathi.”
That was the part of me that I had despised.
That was the part of me that I had rejected.
That was the part of me that held all the pain.
And as I saw that part I said, “Lord, she looks so sad.”
And I saw that little fat girl crying and the man
that was praying with me said,
“Are you willing to embrace that part of you?”
And I said, “Absolutely not, I hate that part of me.”
And there are many, many who feel the same way
about parts of themselves that hold shame and trauma a
nd fear and torment, they don’t want to have anything
to do with them, and he said, “Well are you willing f
or the Lord Jesus to come and minister to that part?”
And I said, “Yes I am.”
And so in my minds eye I felt and saw the Lord
come and put his arm around that part that I had hated
and despised for so many years, and he said,
“What’s happening to her now?”
And I said, “Well she is looking happier.”
And you know as I sat there and I kind of watched
this video going on on the inside of me, I began to
realize she is part of who I am, and when I left her
behind I left a lot of who I was.
Sid: You rejected part of yourself.
Kathi: I rejected part of myself, look she was so rejected,
she wasn’t loved at home, her dad didn’t pay any attention
to her, there was screaming and yelling all the time,
at school the kids made fun of her, and I just decided
since nobody else liked her why should I
and I pushed all the pain and shoved all the
pain in that part of my heart and it broke.
And as I got older I got ADD, I couldn’t focus
on anything and my grades went down.
I can tell you almost to the day when that happened
because from then on, I got a transcript of my
high school grades, they went down to mediocre
and I had been at the top of my class.
And so the Lord gave me a compassion for that part of me,
I could feel the Lord’s heart loving here and if the Lord
loved her I looked at her and I thought I want her to
come back, I need to be whole again.
And that is what salvation means, it means to be made
whole, to be saved, to be set free, to be delivered.
Sid: You know you were talking about in Isaiah, part of
the reason Messiah came was to restore the brokenhearted.
Kathi: It was to bind up the brokenhearted, to set the
captives free, to open the prison doors, in fact in
Luke four that was Jesus’ mission statement.
The church has not held that mission statement.
Sid: Okay, let’s take you what happened to your ADD?
Kathi: The ADD began to subside
as I asked that part back.
Sid: In fact you told me your entire personality changed.
What were you like before and how did you change?
Kathi: I was very angry, much more nervous,
much more excitable, much more fearful, very fearful,
worried a lot, anxiety ridden, but I think the most
prevalent thing was this underlying seething
anger all the time, I just could not get rid of it.
And as I began to release the trauma out of that part,
I began to release the anger, I began to release the pain
and that part reunited with me and it was an actual
experience for me, it was as if two puzzle pieces
were being slammed together and there was a
solidarity about how I felt about myself.
Sid: I have heard of people who have done this that
couldn’t even play a piano and all of a sudden they can
play the piano when their heart comes together.
It is like part of who you – you are incomplete.
Kathi: right, you are incomplete and I, after working in
this ministry for quite a number of years now, I don’t see
how we can come in to the complete destiny that the Lord
has for us, because our destiny includes all of who we are,
all of the way the Lord made us.
I just prayed for a woman recently in a meeting and I
could tell that she had left an artsy part, where she loved
art, did painting, loved music, that part had been totally
rejected by her for some reason or another, and I could see
the Lord beginning to bring that back to her again.
It is amazing how much of who we are we loose.
Sid: Now you do group meetings all over the world
where you pray and that’s why I love your new book,
Open My Heart, Lord, because in the back it has a
CD with you praying with such an anointing of God,
and in fact when we come back in the next segment
I want you to pray over our people.
But you know I have to tell you Kathi, it seems
too simple the way you outline it in this book.
Kathi: Well I think the Lord is simple, and as long as we
follow his simple principles, I’ve found some people that
are broken more than just one fragment, I have found
people that are broken many fragments and shattered lives,
but that’s what the word broken means in the Hebrew, in
Isaiah 61 it means to be broken, splintered, shattered.
On It’s Supernatural: Ron Pettey died during an operation and went to heaven.
While in heaven, he heard people on earth praying for his recovery. He saw the angel who keeps the book of life, and he received a special message from another angel about his son.
Do angels exist? Are healing miracles real? Is there life after death? Can people get supernatural help from another dimension? Has the future been written in advance?
Sid Roth has spent 25 years researching the strange world of the supernatural. Join Sid on this edition of It’s Supernatural.
SID: Sid Roth here. Welcome to my world, where it’s naturally supernatural. My next guest died on the operating table, went to heaven, and came back, but with a serious problem. He had total amnesia. Well, God did a miracle, and he doesn’t have amnesia today, but he does have a problem with his short term memory. You may say “Well Sid, why are you going to interview him?” Because he came back with another gift. He has the gift of x-ray vision. He can look inside of someone, know what’s wrong with them, know what the problem is, and literally see the problem corrected.
He can look into the room and he can see angels. Sid Roth here with Ron and Glenda Pettey. I tell you, I protest again. I know, I’ve done it often. But, I protest. And I’m entitled, it’s my show. I protest. Ron, you have a gift to see in the invisible world. You have a gift to see inside of people, to pray for them. Last night, I asked you to look inside of me, and you saw what was going on, and you prayed. And I believe, and you believe, that I was healed. You also can look in a room and see what’s going on. To me, there’s no guesswork there. I like it that way. I guess I have to have more faith than you.
RON: There’s no faith involved, it’s a fact. I don’t understand it. I never have understood it, I never will, because it’s God who’s doing it. You can’t understand God.
SID: Glenda, you said sometimes, when this gift first started, he would say to you a room is very crowded. What was going on when he said that?
GLENDA: He just sees so many angels. He sees everyone’s guardian angel, and even in this room now, as we are here in this studio, he sees a very crowded room.
SID: So if there are fifty people, he could see a hundred people. Is that right?
RON: That’s correct.
GLENDA: And I think he sees them just as real as he’s seeing you and I. They’re not shadowy or ethereal, they’re just real. It’s amazing. I do not grasp how clearly he’s seeing it.
SID: Let me take you back. Tell me a bit about his disease that he had. Or, actually it isn’t a disease. What is it?
GLENDA: He had a head injury back in the Viet Nam War, on a Navy ship. Years later, he continued to have headaches. Then one year, the headaches were so increased that he was passing out from the pain. So, we had CAT scans, we had second and third opinions, and when they began to compare the CAT scans, they found that spinal fluid was not draining. Not draining enough, and it was very critical. So, they put in a shunt. I say “they”, the neurosurgeons, put in a shunt that drains spinal fluid. Then, as time passed, the shunt had to have corrections. It would malfunction. We went back in and out of the hospital with many emergencies. And then, about three years into this, the entire shunt had to be replaced. It had developed an infection. Well, in the replacement process, they had, inadvertently and accidentally, put the brand new tubing that would drain spinal fluid right into a massive blood clot that had not shown up on x-Ray.
SID: So it wouldn’t work.
GLENDA: Would not work. They would not really discover this for hours, and even a couple of days later, of what a critical mistake had been made. On a Sunday morning, they rushed him back into surgery, and that was the morning that he truly died on the operating table.
SID: Ron, when you died on the table, what memory do you have of what happened when you left your body?
RON: The memory was heaven. I knew exactly where I was.
SID: You mean you instantly left your body and you were in heaven?
RON: Instantly, yeah. There was no in-between. It was instantly. And I knew where I was, that was the amazing thing.
SID: What were the first things that you saw?
RON: Well, for one thing there was light everywhere. I mean it was like walking into a well-lit auditorium. Light everywhere. And I walked up to this table. I’m calling it a table, because there’s no better term. I walked up to this table and asked the person, “I’m ready to go in.” There was a big book on this table. He looked through this book, and my name wasn’t there.
SID: Oh no!
RON: Really. That’s what I thought! I said “Have I been deceived all these years?” And it came about that I raised such a ruckus… Now this is hard to believe, a ruckus with an angel – in heaven!
SID: Listen, I would’ve raised a ruckus too. How about you? You would’ve raised a ruckus too.
He can’t get into heaven. Would you like to find out why? I know you do. Don’t go away. I tell you, his book, “Heaven Is Real”, the presence of God is so strong when I read this book. It’s one of these books you literally cannot put down. People that are afraid of death, after they finish this book, they no longer have fear of death. People that have lost loved ones, after they read this book… Ron and Glenda, what happened to you, and what you, Ron, experienced in heaven, takes away all worry about loved ones in heaven. We’ll be right back after this word, and find out why Ron was not allowed into heaven.