Sid: My guest Dr. Michael Brown has come out with what I believe will cause a spiritual awakening in America that the blinders will come off of the eyes in reference to the homosexual -lesbian issue. The title of the book, “A Queer Thing happened to America,” 500 page hardback book. Dr. Brown you have an entire chapter “Is Someone Born Gay?” Just a couple of words, I want that answered.
Mike: How about lesbian author, Camille Paglia “No One is Born Gay, the idea is ridiculous.” How about researchers, Glen Stanton and Dr. Bill Meyer, “The current consensus in the scientific community is that there is absolutely no proof that people are born gay, contrary to what many Americans believe; there are no replicated scientific studies demonstrating that homosexuality is determined by biological or genetic factors.” Sid, the fact that every few years you’ll hear, oh there’s a gay gene, oh there’s a gay part of the brain, oh…do you know why you keep hearing new things, because they haven’t found it yet! If it had been found, the whole world would know about it, but gay activists would be trumpeting it everywhere! I have quotes from gay activists saying, “One day we are going to find this!” No, it hasn’t been found because no one is born gay!
Sid: Okay, let’s switch areas right now and talk about your chapter on the religious liberties.
Mike: Oh boy, how about this report from England April 20, 2007 “Eden Borough University has banned copies of the Bible from student dormitories after condemning the Christian Union for violating its equality and diversity policy by claiming that any sexual activity outside heterosexual marriage is not God ordained.” Sid, within a period of ten day in July of 2010 a professor was fired from his job in Israel and a professor was fired from his job in America because they dared to take issue with homosexual practice. And the real shocker is that the professor who was fired in America and then after an outcry got reinstated, he was teaching in the religion department, he was Catholic and he was teaching about what Catholic’s believe and said that according to Catholicism homosexual practice is disordered and sinful and for that he was fired!
Sid: Where is the outrage over the artwork, all the things that are being released defaming Jesus in showing Him in perverted acts? Why isn’t there that same outrage! I don’t get it Mike!
Mike: Oh no no, that’s okay Sid and that should even be funded by the government and you see you’re intolerant and bigoted if you can’t accept this as artwork. But God forbid you say one word differing with Homosexual practices. Here look, let’s just talk about this for a second almost everybody listening they’ve got an i-phones, they use i-Tunes, whatever so “Manhattan Declaration” a wonderful, graciously written statement by Chuck Colson and a number of other Christian Leaders with hundreds of thousands of signatories, it stands for marriage of a man and woman, it stands for life, it stands for religious freedoms and it’s graciously written. Well some people were offended that it was an app that it was released on i-Tunes. They got it removed, a half million people protesting this, roughly that number, and you’ve got Sid… people began to send me links’ of every kind of profane, gay sex app, you know find out what’s available in your city, here’s a place to go for anonymous sex encounters; that’s okay; that’s not offensive! But to say that homosexual practice is wrong or immoral or sinful or that God can change a homosexual, that’s now considered hateful, bigoted and intolerant. Look people are fired from they’re job, they’re have been Christians put out of University programs. Let’s talk about Julia Ward, she’s in a University in Michigan, she’s a mature black American woman, Christian woman in the counseling program there, she’s strong in her grades, someone comes to her, part of the counseling program you actually have to do counseling in a homosexual relationship and they want their relationship affirmed. So she goes to her professor and says, what I should do I am happy to counsel them but in conscience as a Christian, I cannot affirm their relationship. Okay, I am not making these things up; these are documented in massive detail.
Sid: Mike give me a few nuggets as to what the true agenda of the gay movement is.
Mike: Okay, silencing all opposition! Julia Ward in her school when she said that she could not counsel a homosexual and encourage them in their homosexual; she’s put out of the program; kicked out of the schools Sid and subjected to an inquisition there. Here’s in short what it means, it means the re-education of our children in schools; it means teaching that there is no norm to marriage you could be two moms’ two dads, three moms four anything it’s all the same. It means silencing of all opposition; it means where as one behavior in lifestyle used to be criminal it will now be criminal to differ with that. It means reprogramming through our military people have said now with the repel of the “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell” it will make the military the world’s largest sexual activist organization because it’s got to reprogram it’s program, it’s got to re-educate. It means rewriting the Bible so that you’re talking about well known stories of accounts of the Bible suddenly everything has a gay queer slant to it; and that if you take opposition to it it will either be reproachful or even illegal; it’s going to affect Sid redefinition of marriage. It’s going to mean if you don’t accept and let’s say you got a school, you’ve got a Christian school and the kids have to come from a married home to be in the school, let’s just say that that’s the law, that’s the standard you have whatever it is; well if it’s two woman that come are married by your state or two men you are going to have to accept. It’s going to mean if you are an employer you are going to have to recognize same sex benefits, insurance things for same sex couples.
Sid: Will churches and ministries have to hire homosexuals to be pastors?
Mike: Awe, okay let’s start here how about a Christian book store? A Christian bookstore is not protected it’s just a business. You could be guilty of discrimination if you say okay you know this guy that’s my receptionist, Joey he’s now convinced that he’s really Jane and that he’s a woman trapped in a man’s body and now he’s coming to work as the receptionist in my Christian book store, wearing a dress, you fire him; you go to jail for that Sid! Discrimination and it’s a short jump from there; here Cy Felphlim is now in a leading position appointed by our President and approved by a lame duck congress the end of 2010, she’s now in a major position in equal opportunity, this is businesses operating fairly. She’s a gay activist lesbian professor and she has said that when there’s a conflict between sexual freedoms and religious freedoms she has a hard time seeing any instance in which religious freedoms will triumph. So what’s going to stop this from coming to a church right now the law says, no the church is still protected it’s just the slightest little line. The next line to be crossed because already with hate crimes you and I are codified right now by law as bigots because we say that we do not accept transgenderism; we do not accept homosexual practice; we do endorse these things we are now codified by the law bigots. That’s just the same way as speaking against the Hispanic, or against African American because of their anestity or skin color; we are now in the same class and if people don’t believe it I documented examples…
Sid: Okay, let me ask you ask this Mike, why should a Christian that is listening … 500 page book titled “A Queer Thing Happened to America?”
Mike: It is our moral and spiritual responsibility, what do we say to those that looked at slavery as it happened in America and looked the other way and didn’t care? What do we say that abortion has destroyed 10’s of millions of lives while so much of the church just wants to look the other way? What do we say, I know that this will outrage people when I use this example, but what do we say when the people of Germany looked the other way as the holocaust was happening? We have something of great moral import in America, I’m not equating the homosexual agenda with the slaughtering of Jews in Germany, I’m equating our silence with the silence of those that have watched society transform; who have watched lives be destroyed. Look our kids are growing up in an environment now where most Christian kids in schools don’t see why there’s…what’s the problem with same sex marriage; what’s the problem with don’t ask don’t tell?
Sid: And aren’t they literally hypnotically and demonically putting it in the head of these impressionable young children, and you know as a man thinks in his heart, so is he?
Mike: There is the education, the programming and Sid something spiritual; it’s like people have come under a spell, pastors and leaders have come under a spell, Christian parents whether it is the spell of TV or whether it’s the spell of reeducation or whether it’s the spell of demons. You know you’re slogan for yeas, you know it’s supernatural, this is supernatural Sid, this will not be fought by human words alone, and that’s why we have prayed and we have fasted behind this book that God would use it supernaturally because there has to be…
Sid: I believe this book, it’s enough is enough and it will cause a spiritual awakening in America…
Sid: Getting ready Mishpochah to have a river of God’s healing just flow in such a tangible fashion that no disease, no sickness can stand. And one of the things I like about my guest, Todd White, and he doesn’t know it, but he’s teaching me because many times I’ll think well this person’s theology is bad or they don’t have faith and so I’m not even going to pray for them. Or that’s why they’re not getting healed. But what I’ve learned from you Todd, is that it’s based on your faith, not the faith of the person you are praying for and so I challenged you and I said, but wait a second, even Jesus did’t have many people healed when he went to his home town because of their lack of faith. And God gave you a revelation about that Todd White.
Todd: He did, he did Jesus went into His hometown to preach the first time he preached and He preaches a sermon and the people in the congregation are looking at Him like who does this guy think he is, I mean he grew up here. I mean, aren’t his sisters and brothers, wait a second and isn’t this the son, hold on let’s get out of here. So these people heard Jesus preach and they rejected Him, they rejected Him and they turned their back on Jesus. Can anybody that knows of the life of Jesus actually picture them bringing a quadriplegic or somebody on a mat, a paralyzed man, laying him in front of Jesus and Jesus praying and saying, “Arise” and the man just laying there and him looking around at the people in the synagogue thinking, what’s going on here? And then he looked at the man again and He says, “Arise” and the man still lays there. Now Jesus, can we picture Jesus getting a little frustrated because the people’s unbelief is greater than His belief. And then He says again, I said.”Arise” and nothing happens and then He looks at the crowd and said come on guys get with me, maybe if you had faith he’d be healed, and He turns his back and walks away. That’s not Jesus, the fact remains is that they never brought anybody to Him, because if they would have brought him to Him, Jesus would have healed him. You can’t tell me for a second that somebody’s unbelief was greater than Jesus’ belief. They brought a man with a withered hand the one time to Jesus in the synagogue and the Pharisees brought the man up not to do anything but used the man as a guinea pig to set Jesus up. They brought the man up and Jesus said, “How much more important if you guys lose an animal or an ox, if you lose an animal and he falls into a pit on a Sabbath would you not reach in and grab him? Come on, how much more important is this son of Abraham than an animal, stretch forth your hand and bang the man was healed.” Who had faith? Jesus did. What about the Pool of Bethesda; when you have Jesus who walked through there and He saw the one man that was there, he saw everybody, but one man specifically he prayed for. There is a theology that says well Jesus was only lead to one so you can’t pray for everybody. Jesus was on His way to the cross He had set His face like flint; He had a very short time to accomplish what He did. So what He did was, He set His face like flint, he prayed for the one and He snuck out of there quick because they were trying to make Him natural King. And that’s not why He came to become natural King. So He prayed for the one, the man’s carrying his mat to the synagogue, the Pharisees approach him and say, you know that you’re not suppose to carry your mat. He said, the man that healed me told me to pick up my mat and walk. And they said “Who healed you?” And the man said, “I don’t know.” He had no clue who had healed him and Jesus did it nobody else was in faith but the King. So here’s the deal, there’s so many situations here’s another one, the mourners were called to Jairus’s house to mourn the death. They were called to mourn a death, Jesus shows up, tells the mourners that they have to go, their not needed. The mourners were hired professionals. He told them, they are not needed, not because he had to get them out of the room in order for God to move, but because they weren’t needed anymore. He said, she’s only sleeping, she is not dead she is only sleeping and bang the little girl gets up. We have blown this thing so much out because we haven’t seen the results of a believing prayer. But the honest belief system of God is that in Matthew 17 if we speak to the mountain, the mountain will move. If we speak to the mountain and the mountain doesn’t move it’s because of a lack of faith in the person praying. See the disciples in Mathew 17 had prayed for an epileptic boy. And Matthew 10 they had been given authority by Jesus to go and do it. So in Matthew 17 Jesus is up on the mount of transfiguration with Peter, James and John. He comes down off the mountain, the disciples said that He’d given authority, they prayed for the epileptic boy and it didn’t happen. So now Jesus comes in there and the man says, “Help my son, I brought him to your disciples and they couldn’t cure him.” Jesus looks at the man and the disciples, who were the representative, and says you perverse and corrupt generation, meaning you twisted minded people, your minds got so perverse and so twisted on this one. Perversed meaning twisted minded. How long shall I bare with you, how long shall I be with you? He’s saying guys, I’m going to the cross soon, you’ve got to get this. Now bring the boy to me. The boy was healed and the disciples said, why couldn’t we cure him? And Jesus said, I tell you the truth, he didn’t say anything about the demon, he said because of your unbelief. To believe means to be fully convinced.
Sid: Are you fully convinced that if you pray for people right now that are listening to us, they will be healed?
Todd: Fully convinced.
Sid: You are fully, well I am fully convinced also so the two of us are in agreement, I think it’s time for you to pray.
Todd: Amen, let’s do it, let’s do it. Lord I just thank you, Father for everyone listening God. I thank you right now in the name of Jesus, God. I thank you for everyone listening that right now God that this phone God that this radio interview would be a conduit for your Glory God. Would be a conduit, for Christ in me the hope of Glory and in Sid to flow through right now and to touch everyone that’s listening and in Jesus name God I command herniated disks right now to be made whole. Father, I thank you, bring your fire God in Jesus name. Lord I thank you that every short leg of everyone that’s listening and knows they have a short leg would right now sit with their heels together with their legs in front of them and right now in the name of Jesus we command the legs to grow right now. Father I thank you, I thank you in Jesus name God, I thank you, thank you Lord. All sciatic nerve damage being crushed, in the Name of Jesus God. I thank you so much God, you are so good, you are so wonderful. Father I thank you for migraines I just keep hearing migraines and in Jesus Name migraines, crippling migraines that make you sick and dizzy in Jesus Name we rebuke and command all migraines to go right now. Father I thank you for migraines being completely healed, God I thank you. I thank you for COPD being crushed right now in Jesus Name. Emphysema, COPD, asthma I command you lose them right now. Father, I thank you for the breath of God breathing into the lungs of listeners right now in Jesus Name. Thank you Father for your warmth, for your fire God going into their lungs right in Jesus Name. Lord you are amazing and I thank you and I give you glory. Lord I thank you right now for cancers being crushed in Jesus name, lung cancer in Jesus name I command you let them go. Let them go right now in Jesus name. Pancreatic cancer, the doctor has told you that you have a very short period of time because this is one of the quickest ones in Jesus Name we demand pancreatic cancer to lose you right now in Jesus Name. Father I thank you for complete wholeness God, right now that every cancerous cell would be completely crushed by you Lord God. You are amazing, Holy Spirit we command depression, we thank you in Jesus Name depression being completely crushed. For all anxiety God, for all depression in Jesus Name we break off the spirit of suicide from a listener right now that has just tuned in. Suicide I command you you suicidal spirit you leave right now. Father I thank you for amazing joy God right now, peace that surpasses all understanding. Don’t turn this off, in Jesus Name I command you listen in Jesus Name, depression I curse you and command you let him go right now, right now. Thank you Holy Spirit in Jesus Name, Amen.
Sid: You know what I believe? I believe that there is so much presence of the healing anointing of God, so much faith in the atmosphere that whether you’ve announced their condition or not they can just literally their encased in healing. I mean their getting their whole body is being healed from the top of their head to the bottom of their foot. Anything they need, especially in the foot area their being healed. Are you seeing anything else?
Todd: In Jesus Name God, I thank you Father, thank you Father, yeah I’m actually seeing bipolar, I’m seeing people, numerous people have been diagnosed with bipolar and right now God is coming and schizophrenia right now God is coming right now with peace into your mind right now in Jesus Name, Father we thank you that every mind disease God, every sickness of the mind God, every emotional, I just keep hearing this depression, this bipolar. In Jesus Name I was depressed, I had this bipolar stuff I had this and God’s crushed it so in the name of Jesus freely I have received, freely I give it right now. I command your minds to be clear right now. Clear, cataracts right now in Jesus name.
Sid: Hello. Sid Roth here with David Martin. And David Martin went to Africa and received an anointing that is imperative for the End Times. So Enoch, who was part of the Shining Light movement from the ’30s prays for you and what happened?
David: Well when he prayed for me, Sid, I’ve had some great men and women of God pray for me, well known leaders. Nothing like that. This was an impartation that literally gave me an awe of God, a real fear of the Lord, a desire to be right, walking right in rightness. I understand we have righteousness, but it was a desire to walk with God closer than I ever could imagine possible.
Sid: You need a healthy fear and reverence of God. It’s almost like it’s missing from this generation. But then these Africans have four prophesies. Tell me about them.
David: Well this revival that started in the ’30s spread all over East Central Africa. The revival became known as the Shining One movement. But it really, as Enoch explained it to me, it wasn’t about shining, it was about holiness. But this revival touched all over. And in the eastern edge of Zaire, a tribal people there, about 400,000 people, very much prophetic, well all these people are because they hear God’s voice so much better. But on the mountaintop in the mid-’60s four, what they call last day prophesies, and those prophesies were there will be a great war in Zaire. Now what’s important is realizing Zaire never had war. A very large country, one of the largest, I think, in Africa. Never had war. But the prophesies in the ’60s, great war in Zaire, followed by great men of God going to Heaven in flames. Third prophesy, more war. Fourth prophesy, great revival.
Sid: Great revival for Zaire or for the world?
David: I believe personally, having been to the mountaintop, this great revival is for the Body of Christ that’s going to cover all the Earth.
Sid: David, the Glory was so abundant on these people that their lifespan increased. Explain.
David: Well the average African lives to 60, 70 years of age. These people on the average live over 100. And they walked, I mean these people walked four, five, six days to come a meeting.
Sid: Now tell me about the peace anointing you received. And by the way, when he talks about this, you will experience supernatural peace. Trust me. Watch this.
David: Well the anointing was prophesied to me by God. Nine months after the Enoch anointing, I’m back in Africa again doing a pastors conference And one of the people that died in the plane crash where a dear friend of died came to me and said, “You know, your friend, David, and my husband are buried in a common grave, but they’re not buried. They’re planted.” I said, “What does that mean?” She said, “Well these four prophetic words that were given,” which I knew nothing of at this point. She said, “In 1997, Zaire went to war, people in the country,” rebels they’re called, “went to war, and in 1998, Zaire is no longer Zaire. It’s overthrown. Now it’s called Democratic Republic of the Congo.” And she said, “Your friend, my husband and 21 others were called in, great leaders were called in to celebrate the victory. As they were landing on the mountaintop where the prophetic word was given that there be great war in Zaire, which is now fulfilled, as they were landing the plane crashed and everyone on board went to Heaven in flames.”
Sid: That was that that prophetic word that happened.
David: Exactly. And she said they’re all buried in the common grave. She said, “I went there trying to identify my husband. They were working with these people. No one was recognizable. They’re all buried in a common grave.” But as she was walking around the plane, she said, “I was attracted to a window that was knocked out.” As she held the window, she said it was like electricity going through. And when she said that, God said to me, it’s a picture of a prophetic window that God was opening up to pour out His spirit. And then that night I woke up with a dream, and in that dream, Sid, I saw a picture of what I believe is Elijah’s bones. And of course, they threw a man on those bones and the man came alive. And I’m sitting up in bed in awe with this dream. And God said to me, “Where those bones are on that common grave there’s a resurrection anointing, and I’m going to send you there to receive it.” The next day, I’m all full of questions. I knew nothing about this, and they made an opportunity for me to meet with the prophets. And I’m meeting with the prophets and I’m saying, “Wow, I’ve heard about these prophetic words you guys give.” We’re talking cutting edge prophetic words. And God said to me as I was speaking to them, “I’m bringing you back here in four months to commemorate those that died.” And the U.N., we’re talking about war zone, two weeks after the plane crashed, the country went back to war. Third prophetic word: “In the midst of war on the mountaintop it’s a military base,” and there God said to me He’s sending me in there to get a resurrection anointing. “How is this going to happen, God?” But a 12-week U.N. peace accord, Lusaka Peace Accord, opened the door for me to go there and receive this resurrection anointing.
Sid: David, tell me about it. How many people were there?
David: Well they estimated over 35,000 people. And the people are gathered together in a large circle. I’m in the center mound. And when I went there and what was interesting, the prophets, when this Lusaka Accord happened, they called me and said, “Would you come and commemorate the dead.” And the same night that they called me, a prophet friend of mine had a out-of-body experience, and in this out-of-body experience God showed her two entities that were fighting. And she said, “God, what is it?” And He said to her, “Spirit and self.” And He said, “I’m releasing an anointing to cause spirit to overtake self and I’m sending David there to receive it.” That’s the day they called me. The next day as I’m preparing, she gave me that word. But what happened was I went there with great expectation. I don’t know what’s going to happen. God said resurrection anointing. Now I know from this prophet an anointing to God’s spirit to overtake self. I’m thinking when I’m going there I’m going to go the gravesite. All these people are buried in the common grave. I’m going to receive something phenomenal: get more hair, lose weight, look younger, all those things. But none of that happened. And on the third day of meetings amongst 35,000 people this incredible anointing hits me. God called it resurrection anointing, but the manifestation of it was peace.
Sid: How would you like to walk in peace no matter what is happening in the world, no matter what is happening to you? I think you can feel just as David is speaking this the peace is pouring out to you. Don’t go away. We’ll be right back.
Sid: Hello. Sid Roth here with Walid Shoebat. And Walid was born in Bethlehem. He was raised to be a terrorist. He was bred to be a terrorist. He hated the Jew. He hated Israel. He wanted to kill Jewish people. I’ve been wanting to ask someone who was raised that way this question, and here’s my question to you, Walid. I have been at the museum where the Dead Sea Scrolls are. The Dead Sea Scrolls pre-date the Koran. Islam says that the Torah was corrupted in certain areas and the Koran is pure God. If the Dead Sea Scrolls are word for word the Torah and they pre-date the Koran, which one was corrupted?
Walid: Well the Koran is the corruption of the Torah of the Bible. While they accuse the Bible of being corrupted, when I read the Bible, I realized the Koran was simply borrowing things from the Bible and borrowing Apocrypha manuscript.
Sid: But it mixed up a lot of things that were in the Bible, which the Dead Sea Scrolls that pre-date the Koran prove who did the mixing.
Walid: Beyond a shadow of a doubt. As a matter of fact, I went to the Israel museum as a teenager and I was wondering, I was looking at the Isaiah scroll. It’s the most amazing fascinating archeological relic they have. And I always wondered like why does it speak Hebrew? It’s in Hebrew. And we sang the song of [Arabic]. Palestinians, the land cries out in Arabic. But there is a relic there that says it was crying out in Hebrew. That shocked me beyond belief that the Jews existed in that land a long time ago. And by the time you examine the Dead Sea Scrolls and you begin to read the Bible, you find out there’s nothing different, absolutely nothing whatsoever.
Sid: Let me ask you this question. I mean, as time is slipping away. You have a paradigm that actually is an old paradigm for End Times that makes so much sense to me. It’s so biblical. Explain briefly what you see for End Times.
Walid: Well I simply brought up an old paradigm because a long time ago they used to believe that Islam did play the major role in End Times. Because if we look at the Bible, all the countries that are mentioned in the Bible that God deals with, all of them are Islamic including all the nations that Christ deals with when he comes. When the Messiah comes to fight, and the nation is mentioned when he fights they’re all Islamic. You look at Karaka 3. He fights against Midian. That’s Arabia. You look at Isaiah 63. He fights against Edom. Ezekiel 25, God says, “I will stretch out my arm,” that’s the Messiah, “against Edom.”
Sid: Then where does the European Union that everyone thinks that’s the End Time player? Where do they fit in?
Walid: Nowhere at all. There is no—
Sid: What do are we going to do with the Left Behind series? We leave it behind.
Walid: That’s the problem. You know, Rome is mentioned 16 times in the Bible, not once in destruction. Spain is mentioned, not once in destruction. Gaul is mentioned not once in destruction. All the nations are to be destroyed. Even the Antichrist, you look at Ezekiel 28 all the way to 32.
Sid: I’ve often wondered this and I’ve got to ask a scholar in End Time prophesy, that has his paradigm right, this question: What is 666? What does that mean?
Walid: Well there are several flavors. In Revelation, Chapter 13, it talks about the mark or the name, or the number of his name. Now if you took it in name itself, it doesn’t mean a name of a person, because we look at the biblical usage of the word “name”. Then we can understand what the Bible is saying because of the biblical usage of “name”. I’ll give you an example. “His name shall be called Emanuel, which his God with us.” But Jesus’ name is not Emanuel. He’s not Mexican. His name is Yeshua. So a name is a description. It’s a title. It’s a creed. So they will have a creed of the beast, which is a blasphemous creed, by the way, and it’s put on Charagma. It’s on a Charagma, badge of servitude, regular badge that could be on cloth, has a blasphemous creed that is positioned on the foreheads of the followers of the Antichrist. That’s exactly what Muslims are beginning to do. In fact, when I read the Bible, Islam talks about it.
Sid: But what does 666 mean?
Walid: Well there is another explanation is the three Greek symbols that adds to 666. Well that’s a plausible. But the issue I found fascinating is when they looked at the Greek, those spoke Arabic.
Walid: For some reason, the Greek is also Arabic. And you look at the symbols. It says [Arabic] with the mark of a sword. That’s the mark of Islam. [Arabic] means “in the name of Allah.”
Sid: In the name of Allah?
Sid: That’s what that means, is 666 in Arabic?
Walid: Absolutely. In Arabic it means “in the name of Allah”. No one so far would ever refute that that’s what it says in the Arabic language.
Sid: Okay. I have been told Allah is synonymous to the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. When you say “Allah”, you’re talking about the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. When you’re saying the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob you’re talking about Allah. Is that true?
Walid: If that is true maybe I could talk to Faisal Abdul Rauf, who wants to build a mosque by Ground Zero, who says the same thing, by the way. I will tell him, okay, I greet you in the name of Jesus Christ, the Son of the Living God, my God and yours. If he says yes, I have a convert. If he says no, that means it’s not true because the definition of Allah in the Koran, he’s anti-Trinity. The battle is between anti, you know, the Trinitarian versus anti-Trinitarian as Islam is. It denies the Father and the Son. First John 2:22 tells us—
Sid: Forgetting all that, I have been told that Allah is the name of the sun god.
Walid: The moon god.
Sid: The moon god, I mean.
Walid: Absolutely. We have to understand how it came.
Sid: So what they’re saying, so the moon good, our god created the moon along with everything else.
Sid: So that’s a very limited god?
Walid: Yes. In fact, the Bible gives us an illusion to this. Lalete [sp] is mentioned in the Bible, which is Alat. Alat has always been the feminine name for Allah that was one of his consorts pre-Islam in Arabia. Alat-Allah is a name. They’re both names. So Alat later on became Ishtar and became all these things. And then in Arabia, it was worshiped as the moon god.
Sid: But these were false gods, according to the Jewish scriptures.
Walid: Absolutely. They’re totally different gods than have ever been described in the Bible.
Sid: Okay. There are seven nations that Walid has found mentioned in the Bible that are going to be coming against the Antichrist. I want to know if the United States of America is one of them. Be right back after this word.