Sid: Hello. Sid Roth here with Brian Adams. And Brian, I know most people when they’re offended they rehearse it over and over in their mind, and they can’t even help themselves. What are they doing as they’re rehearsing this?

Brian: What you’re doing is, is repetition, you are just repeating or I like to use the word rehearsing. What you’re doing is you’re building a stronghold. But it’s not a godly stronghold. And what God has required us to do is to pull every thought captive into the obedience of Christ Jesus. Meaning, He wants it to be according to the Word. Our thoughts become His thoughts. And what they do, Sid, is it’s almost because of a type of pride and someone saying, how dare someone do that to me. But you know what I’ve seen? I’ve seen that what we got to do is pull these thoughts captive, make the decision it is God’s will. Now all through the Bible this is what we hear. Jesus, when he said, “When you stand praying, if you have an audience with anybody forgive.” It will hinder your prayer life. It will keep you from hearing or receiving from God. He even says, when you bring in an offering if you know there’s somebody, not only you against them, but someone has something against you, stop and go to them. So we’re talking your prayer life, your financial life. Now we see when they tore the roof off the ceiling for a man to get into a meeting that was sold out, so to speak, they lowered him down there. He said, “Your sins be forgiven you.” Now all of the people that were there said, who does this guy think he is? Who’s Jesus. Only God can forgive sins. But what we learn here is the same spirit that heals is the same spirit that forgives. And if you cannot be forgiven, if you don’t forgive, then Sid, you can’t be healed. It becomes like a cellblock, which is what the devil wants.

Sid: Wait a second. We are emotional beings. And if I’m walking in the grocery store and I see someone in the next line that has talked against me, and I don’t like him too much, I’m gonna walk the other way.

Brian: Yes.

Sid: What do I do? Walk up to him?

Brian: Well I tell you what. John 10:10 says, “The thief comes to still, to kill, and to destroy.” What he’s actually done is stole that relationship from that fellow believer.

Sid: Right.

Brian: And so what I’m going to do is say I’m making a decision to forgive these people and I’m going to take this friendship back. I’m gonna go walk right up to him and say, “Hi, it’s so good to see you.”

Sid: Alright. But what if I do that and I still churn a little on the inside?

Brian: You probably will because I have many times, Sid.

Sid: Okay. I’m normal.

Brian: Yes, normal, yes you are. That’s a normal reaction. But just like you rehearse the negative, just like you rehearse being hurt, God wants you to rehearse forgiving. See, it might take numerous times. Rather, I always say, repetition is the mother of success. If at first you don’t succeed try, try again. I pray and say I make a conscious decision to forgive every person that’s ever hurt me. Now when I see him, Sid, if it comes right back up and that knot’s there, I say, devil you’re a liar. I made a decision to forgive them. You’re not coming back to still that. And when he tries to remind you of what happened in the past, just stir him up and remind him of his future, which isn’t too good

Sid: Brian, you teach and it’s so marvelous about forgiveness from the cross. Would you teach that.

Brian: Yes. Because just like we were talking just a second ago, we rehearse and we think about it. Someone does us wrong. We retreat to our cave almost like Elijah did when Jezebel said some words against him. Well what he need to do is we learn when Christ was actually on the cross, Sid, here’s what he did. While they pulled out his beard, they beat him at the whipping post. Now they’re mocking him. They’ve nailed his hands and his feet. All this is going on. They’re screaming. They’re rejecting him. The whole world that he come for was rejecting him. He didn’t wait until later, but here’s what he did. He said right while it’s happening, right while it’s there, he said, “Father, forgive them. They know not what they’re doing.” Now there’s a key right there, Sid. They know not what they’re doing. The humans become a puppet. The devil is the puppet master. That’s why Jesus said, “Forgive them. They don’t know what they’re doing.” And that makes it so much easier to make that decision to forgive that these people have been deceived. Because if they knew who he really was they would never do you wrong. You’re their eternal relative in the Kingdom of God.

Sid: Well not only that, if they do something to me, they’re doing something to Jesus.

Brian: Oh yes.

Sid: I mean, do you realize that when you do something negative to another person and that person knows the Messiah you’re doing something negative. But what about if something horrible happens, like someone has been raped by their father, how they can forgive him?

Brian: Well one of the things that the Spirit of God has spoken to me about, Sid, is He said, just take what that person has done and just picture them coming to Jesus and saying, “Jesus, I repent of my sins. Will you forgive me?” Now I know that if you go with a repented heart, he’s gonna forgive you. Now you say, well they haven’t repented. They haven’t asked me. Well here’s what happens. You need to, at this time, do it for the sake of Jesus. That he didn’t be at the whipping post in vane. You make this decision because you’re protecting yourself. It’s almost like once you have the armor on, part of the armor on is forgiveness. They said, “They will know we are believers by our love.” And part of the fruit of love is forgiveness. How are they ever gonna know that we’re for real, Sid?

Sid: Okay. You say that anyone can make a free will conscious decision to forgive and receive their healing.

Brian: Yes. That is true.

Sid: Lead people in a prayer right now for that.

Brian: Jesus, he laid down his life and he died for you. And this is what he wants you to do. He came and he taught Peter, he taught the disciples. He said, “I not only want to forgive you, but I want you to begin to network with Heaven. I want you to become a distributor of the power of forgiveness.” And we block things and we hide them in our unconscious. That’s why I called this prayer. I’m getting ready to ask you to pray the conscious decision for counting at a cost. Now please remember this right here. I am not saying by you praying this prayer that you are making a statement, they’re not guilty. What they did to you is despicable and it was wrong. I agree with you. But we’re going to step up into the supernatural realm, the God realm, becoming children of the most high God. He’s a forgiver and we should be, too. So I want to help you right now pray this prayer. Just repeat after me. I’m here to help you. I know you can’t do it by yourself. But with us, where two or more or gathered together, Sid’s right here, there Jesus is. Pray this prayer with me. Say, dear Heavenly Father, I make a conscious decision to forgive every person that’s ever hurt me, that’s ever done me wrong, that’s ever lied against me, that’s ever hurt one of my family members. God, if I feel you let me down, I even release and forgive you. I forgive myself for wrong decisions. I release the past and I let it go. I make a decision right now to receive forgiveness from having unforgiveness. I want to be walking close with you again, God. I receive restoration and I receive the power from Heaven that’s released when forgiveness is granted. Father, I thank you that you’re touching people, and every mental tormenting spirit, every physical pain and every problem must leave now, from fibromyalgia to bursitis and arthritis, mental stress, anxiety, all phobias and fears, your power is broken now in the name of Jesus. These people have now been restored back to the Father. I’m proud of you. It’s one of the greatest decisions since accepting Jesus that you’ve made.

Sid: And one of the things I have found is there has to be a little faith in this transaction.

Brian: Yes.

Sid: That means if you have a pain in your back get up and bend over. A pain in your neck, start moving your head like this. Pain your fingers, start moving your fingers like that. Pain your hip, stand up and jump. This is a moment of a release of the presence, the river of the healing, Anointing of God. I speak peace into your spirit, peace that passes human understanding that sickness cannot rear its ugly head in Jesus’ name.

Sid:  My guest is red hot for the Messiah, God has had picked him to have revelation knowledge to prepare the way for the return of the Messiah.  And what am I talking about?  …His teaching on understanding the times for the first time you’re going to be able to connect the dots in the book of Revelation and end times and current events.  You are going to understand the hidden agenda of Islam, you’re going to understand some of the mysteries and they can’t they must not be mysteries to you about the book of Revelation.  You are going to understand how the Jewish temple is going to be rebuilt right next to the mosque and there’s many Arabs as well as Jews that are in favor of this and the reasons for it.  But Joel, on yesterday’s broadcast you articulated very clearly who mystery Babylon was and you explained that it is Saudi Arabia and especially in Revelation 17 & 18 and Isaiah 15 and Jeremiah 50, 1 Peter 5:13 you go by brilliantly point by point of the scriptures and show all the other nations cannot qualify based on what the scriptures say.  And only Saudi Arabia can qualify, just briefly tell us a few reasons why it’s Saudi Arabia that they are the Harlot, Mystery of Babylon.

Joel:  One of the interesting criteria that the Bible lays out for us is that it says that this woman will sit in an Arab mote or a Arab maun which when translated is desert.  And of course, if we are talking about the Vatican or Rome or the United States, they don’t sit in a desert and this is not just sort of a allegorical symbolic term that we should throw away, all evidence points to it being a literal reference to the region where this woman is pictured.  Another significant issue is that Saudi Arabia is a rabid consumer.  In Revelation 17 and 18 the Harlot is a rabid consumer.  Saudi Arabia doesn’t produce anything other than oil.  They literally import everything, the nations of the earth will feel the wrath of this woman’s false religion; as we discussed yesterday Saudi Arabia is the premier financier of terrorism of radical Islamic terrorism throughout the earth.

Sid:  It talks about extravagant luxury, why does Saudi Arabia qualify?

Joel:  Saudi Arabia is unlike any other nation of the world, a nation run by a family that is drowning in wealth.  And when you look at the examples of Saudi luxury it absolutely surpasses anything, any American President and any American actor, real estate mogul anyone that you can point to.  Bill Gates, you know these Saudi princes have so much money to throw around and the amount of luxury in excess that they live in is unparalleled and it meets that description that we see reiterated in Revelation.

Sid:  Okay and another thing it says is that the people in the earth will commit fornication with this great harlot.

Joel:  This is one of the most significant and important criteria and what this means is that the word fornication, it needs to be realized that this is not adultery.  A lot of believers have said that this indicates that whoever this woman is that she existed in preexisting covenant with God and then broke it.  That would be adultery.  The word used in Greek if not adultery, but fornication and essentially what that means is that if anyone throughout the earth that does not worship their creator, the one true God of the Bible then they are involved in idolatry and that’s fornication and in the Old Testament there are examples of pagan cities such as Nineveh and Tier that were called fornicators because they were involved in idolatry.  And so Saudi Arabia today again they fund, they spread, they export ideology; the radical Islamic ideology throughout the nation.

Sid:  Give me an example of what they’re doing to the American Universities right in the open.

Joel:  Oh, oh for sure there is one prince that is very worthy of taking note of; this is Prince Alwaleed bin talal, he’s one of the wealthiest of all the Saudi Princes and he throws money around left and right to promote the Islamic cause.  The Harvard University, Georgetown University for instance he gave them each 20 million dollars to establish what they’ll call is a Islamic Studies Program. Which ultimately amounts to nothing more than a Saudi Arabian Wahabee propaganda studies program to spread radical Islam, or to spread the you know, looking at Islam favorably throughout the earth.  And here’s what’s amazing, that Prince Alwaleed comes over to the United States and he lectures these Universities on the United States needing to be more tolerant.  And the irony here is so fixed…

Sid:  But when I think of Harvard University, I think of a large Jewish population and maybe I’m wrong, how in the world did the Jewish students put up with that?

Joel:  Well, again the way that the Islamists work is they preach out of one side of their mouth a peaceful and tolerant form of Islam, and they lecture us and they demand that we are more tolerant; but then back in their own country they don’t allow a single synagogue, church or any other religious institution be built other than a mosque.  So you know they play both sides and we here in the west, who have been ham strung by moral and cultural relativity we welcome it and we say yes, absolutely we of all people need to be more tolerant.

Sid:  Now, could it be that former President Bush spread the lie and that’s what it was that Islam is a peace loving religion because of his long family ties with the Saudi royalty?

Joel:  Yeah, few people realize the depth that there is in regards to the Bush family, going back to Bush, Sr., Bush, Jr. with the Saudi Princes.  Prince Bandar was the Saudi Arabian Ambassador to the United States for many many years.  And he is a deep close close friend of the Bush family and we need to realize that this individual over the years has been seen making statements which indicate that he does support radical Islam to a degree, very very close friends to the family.

Sid:  Why does someone like former president Jimmy Carter bash Israel so much?  Is there an ulterior motive that you know of?

Joel:  Well, I think that that can be answered with three words, money, money, money.  When you look at the history of Carter’s relationship with the Saudi’s he’s never come out and opened up how much money they have donated to him and given to him in various gifts, but it is in the tens of millions, perhaps even more.  And you know that anybody that think that ten, twenty, thirty, forty, fifty million dollars doesn’t have an impact on somebody, they’ve never heard the term black male or the Saudi lobby and so forth; this has deeply impacted the approach that Carter has taken, he will openly bash Israel and refer to Israel as a partied nation.  And he will never once mention the human right violations that are so ramped in the nation of Saudi Arabia.  This is blatant hypocrisy and that’s what the Saudi’s get with their ten and millions of dollars put in the back pocket of even American President.

Sid:   Okay, what about someone like our Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton or her husband former President, Bill Clinton?

Joel:  Well, just before the election it was revealed that the Clinton’s had to open up their donation list and what we saw was that Bill and Hillary had received over 30 million dollars from Saudi and Gulf Arabs.  Whether it’s Bush, whether its Carter, whether it’s Clinton, whether it’s Obama.

Sid: Wha…what did Obama get?

Joel:  Obama, history at least those who have studied this say that he was funded, that he went to college he was college he was funded by Saudi princes and there were some radical black nationalists that converted to Islam and had ties to the Saudi family and through that Obama was funded.  That his university education was funded and that today, to this day he still has ties to the Saudi Arabian government.  When we look at the scripture, I think that it’s very clear that the kings of the earth commit adultery with her.  This is one of the premier descriptions of the harlot when we look at the greatest most significant leaders, the kings of the earth so to speak, we see that every one of them is literally committing adultery with the Saudi princes.

Sid:  Okay, now if we see this harlot is Saudi Arabia then who is the beast and define the beast based on scripture?

Joel:  Sure, the beast is a coalition of ten nations and many other nations that will be involved with them that will come together in the last days and form the final manifestation of beast Empire.  In Revelation 13, it says that the beast had a fatal head wound and then it came back.  In essence it is referring to an empire that appeared dead and then was revived.  Well, as I mention and as I discuss, in my DVD set, the primary nations that will make up the emerging beast empire, the nations of Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, Iran, Iraq, Sudan, and Libya.  These are the nations that will make up the revived Islamic empire.  Now that head wound that the beast suffers a lot of Christians believe that it’s referring to the man and the anti Christ but the motive of the beast comes from Daniel 7 and its referring first, in primarily to an empire.  For over five hundred years the nation of Turkey ruled the Middle East.

Sid:  But, wait a second, where does Gog and Magog come in?  Isn’t that Russia?

Joel:  Well, that’s what many many people say, unfortunately if you look at Ezekiel …

Sid:  Whoops were out of time let’s pick up right there on tomorrow’s broadcast…

Sid:  My guest, Bruce Allen says that he’s not particularly gifted man of God that he did not have the gift of prophecy, the gift of seer, the gift of miracles, he didn’t have… but he has learned how to access everything that God has for us by faith.  And he has been given an anointing to activate other people to do exactly what he’s doing.  That’s his greatest desire, now this is so outrageous I have to ask you about this.  In 2007 you were caught up into Heaven and you saw a relative of yours that had previously died.  Tell me about that.

Bruce:  Yea, that was an interesting season, but I was caught up into the third Heaven and standing before me was my Aunt Evelyn, my mother’s sister who had died a few years earlier and she was glorious.  I mean she was glorious she was changed obviously but she was very animated, very excited and anticipatory because she said Bruce, it is so exciting.  There’s so much activity in Heaven because all is prepared and the wedding supper of the Lamb is ready.  And as I looked at her and I looked over her shoulder, her left shoulder my right side, I saw an angel standing there with a large, what looked like a scroll in his hand; and when I inquired what it was he is the angel that the Lord has put in charge of all the resources of Heaven that have been reserved for this hour and this generation.  And he looked at me and he said, and you (speaking corporately of the body) you have the manifest and immediately I understood.  If we learn to speak by faith we access the resources of Heaven for what God has for us to do.

Sid:  How close do you think from what you’ve seen, from what you’ve heard, are we to the return of the Messiah?

Bruce:  As I’ve shared before on Ros Hashanah the last nine out of ten years or nine out of ten years not the last, but two years ago I had a visitation from the Lord.  But on these Ros Hashanahs I do and the Lord speaks to me what he’s saying to the church.  Two years ago while in Perth ministering there the Lord appeared and he had a helmet in his hands and I’ve spent time in the military.  I know the last piece of equipment a soldier will put on before he goes into the field of conflict is the helmet.  So he placed it upon my head and I immediately said Father were not ready.  And the Lord said, “I have given my people everything they need for life and victory now go and enforce the victory.”  So I immediately received revelation.  Were trying to win something that’s already been won; we’re shadow boxing rather than enforcing what’s been won.  And then He said this, “Tell my people I come shortly now.”  So I know that we’re right there.

Sid:  Now, when you were up in Heaven and you saw your Aunt, you then met a young girl and when you were back like you are right now; and what did this young girl say to you?

Bruce:  That young lady, she was eight years old, she was one of the eighty-five people in that one group that had an encounter with the Lord on that time and were caught up to the Third Heaven. 

Sid:  You see, when Bruce speaks people get caught up into the Third Heaven but that was kind of outrageous.  You said eighty-five people were caught up in the Third Heaven at the same time?

Bruce:  Yes.  We had profound testimonies.  But this young girl stands out because she came; her grandmother brought her and said tell the pastor what happened.  And she said well, and I forget her descriptive but she had been with Jesus.  She was holding His hand and she was seeing all of these things and it was exactly what I was seeing to a tee.  So now a year later, when I have this experience I’m back home, she lives in Singapore.  I’m standing before my Aunt and as I looked to my left I saw her appear out of nothing.  She smiled, waved at me turned and grabbed the hand of Yeshua and skipped off with Him.  A year after that we were back in Singapore ministering, we had dinner with them and she said I remember you were up there and you were talking to somebody.

Sid:  Now wait, let me see if I have this straight, you’re caught up into the Third Heaven.  You see the glorious things you’ve described, you see your Aunt who had died a few years earlier and you see this girl from Singapore and a year later you see her in person and she says that not only did you see her in Heaven she saw you in Heaven?

Bruce:  Yes.

Sid:  You didn’t coach her on this?

Bruce:  No, I absolutely wouldn’t do that, no way.

Sid:  That’s pretty wild.

Bruce:  It was so revelation to me too, but you know what I think we’re going to see more of that.

Sid:  That’s almost going to be normal.

Bruce:  I believe so.

Sid:  What else are we going to see?

Bruce:   Well, if we go back to that first mention.

Sid:  Okay.

Bruce:  Where His idea of relationship was face to face; if we look at the model the first Adam had He had the ability to step from one realm to another out of paradise to the natural; from the natural back into the paradise.

Sid:  When he would walk with God.

Bruce:  And then sin entered in and He fell away from that first estate and was kept out of that spiritual realm the third Heaven, paradise.  But in the Messiah who redeemed us we have access to the same thing again.  It’s not beyond the realm of believability or purview of the word to expect to be able to step back and forth.  And when Messiah died on the cross, he said it’s finished and the veil was rent from top to bottom.  That was Abba Father tearing that separation and said come on in kids; I’ve been waiting for you.  He made a way again.  We’re a people of two realms.  What happens is we get so use to functioning in a natural realm and engaging this we neglect the exercising of our spiritual senses so we can operate in that other realm.  And that’s why we are so in effective at times and weak in the things of the kingdom. 

Sid:  And that’s why you wrote your book so that people can be activated in the things of the kingdom.

Bruce:  Absolutely, nineteenths of the battle knowing what belongs to you.

Sid:  Now in the realm of healing, that’s always attracted me because, heal as an evangelist healing earns me the right to present the gospel and have people listen when miracles happen.  Tell me some of the things that have happened when you’ve prayed for people.  Like, what about that person with a stage four cancer?

Bruce:  There was a gentleman by the name of Roy who lived in the area we come from and he’d come to our meetings a number of times over a couple of years and every time Roy came up he said he had need of prayer.  I’d ask him what is it he wants the Lord to do for him he’d tell me a couple of things and he’d always mention cancer.  And so I would ask the Father how to pray and he would give us a strategy but I told Roy that you come back to me as many times as you need to as often as I’m here we will pray until you gain victory.  The last time we saw Roy was at a group of thirty-five thirty-six people; the whole group of us was caught up.

Sid:  The whole group was caught up into the third Heaven.  I just want to make sure you caught that, Mishpochah.   Okay, go ahead.

Bruce:   He came up and he didn’t look, I mean he looked exhausted, he looked sickly, he looked defeated and I said, “Brother Roy what is it you need?”  He said.   “I just want to be healed of cancer, its fourth stage and I just want to be healed.”  So as he’s telling me this, I take a step back and I just am asking Father what are you saying?  When through the back window came an angel carrying a silver platter in his left hand; and he walked up between us and he nodded at me, he reached into Brother Roy and I heard this sucking sound, this squish sound and this splat.  He threw it down on the platter, a big black mass and he walked out; threw it out the back wall, looked at me nodded and left.  So I told Roy what I’d seen and I said, “We are just going to agree with what we saw the Father doing.”  He said, “Okay.”  That was on a Sunday, on a Tuesday he went back to the doctor’s and got a full battery of tests and it took them about a week to diagnose but there was no cancer.

Sid:  Is that going to be increasing in intensity?  I mean miracles of healings of that variety?

Bruce:  I believe that very much, I believe that that’s not even touching the tip of the iceberg on the things were about to enter into.

Sid:  “Have you seen creative miracles?”  “Tell me about the person with the heart.”

Bruce:  Well, yes we have seen on two occasions in Belfast where a woman named Sharon Morrison an angel came and placed a heart in her chest.  And that’s been recorded in a number of places and a couple of books. We were sharing that same testimony in Singapore and this woman in Singapore and a woman named Flo, who was a friend of ours, didn’t realize it but that morning she had a heart attack and she thought she was just having chest pains.  And all day long she was functioning and kept, no that’s not true some people would walk up and say heart attack.  I mean the Lord kept trying to tell her, you had a heart attack but she kept saying no, no, no.   We were supposed to have a home meeting in her house that night.  She came home and she tried to go up the flight of steps to lay down and she could hardly make it up.  She was almost dead.  She lay down and we came in about a half hour later and somehow she made it down and I started telling the story about Sharon Morrison.  She said, “Father I have been asking for that for a heart like that for years and immediately the Lord gave her a new heart; just through the testimony.

Sid:  Have you had any of this confirmed; have you seen these people years later?

Bruce:  Oh, yea absolutely.  Sharon Morrison after three or four months had gone back to the doctor.  And said your hearts like new, what have you been doing?  She said, Well, I threw out my heart medication.  It almost gave the doctor a heart attack.

Sid:  I happen to believe that just as you are sharing this story, there are people that need new hearts.  How can they activate that?  How can they get a new heart right now?

Bruce:  Receive it right now.  He’s no respecter of persons and so when we share a testimony like this it becomes, it says the testimony of Yeshua is the Spirit of Prophecy.  That actually impregnates the atmosphere with the potential of that same miracle taking place.  Just grab hold of the testimony and say yes Father I receive that for myself and that will do it.

Sid:  How about it?  Do you need a new heart?  There is someone there that needs a new lung too.  Grab it, it’s yours.  And speaking of grabbing get this brand new book literally right off the press call “Gazing into Glory.”  It will allow you to see consistently into invisible world; and then his special bonus CD “Translation by Faith.”  There is an anointing on this; you’re going to begin to be translated.

Sid:  My guest, will get you red hot for the Messiah, she’s from South Africa.  Her name is Retha McPherson.  On June 19^th 2004 a car was almost hidden from them and it wasn’t moving and they were about ready to crash into this car and her husband pulled off the road and the two sons went flying out of the car.  One son was okay, one of the reasons he was okay is later Retha found out that Jesus literally caught Him.  He said, her youngest son Joshua said that he was literally caught in the air.  But, the older son was so injured he was on the other side of the road.  Retha it was dark and he wasn’t crying out.  How did you find your second son? 

Retha:  He was already in a coma at that stage when I found him.  I was standing where the vehicle was and I was crying out to the Lord.  I said, Lord help me and I was just praying the blood of Jesus.  And then the Holy Spirit just guide me and I just went and my husband said he would never be that far.  So, I ran opposite the highway to the other side and I found him just right there.  So, this is how faithful God is. 

Sid:  Okay, now on yesterday’s broadcast you’re in the hospital.  You’re son’s a coma; they say he’ll never be normal.  He had brain injury and did they say he would come out of the coma?  What was the exact prognosis?

Retha:  You know they gave the brain injury, they say how bad it is and for the extreme bad they say this is extreme brain injury.  And then you know that this is bad.  It is just a question of time.  And they will always tell you you cannot say with a brain injury so you can never know with a brain injury.  So we were just waiting for that time.

Sid: Okay, but they prepared you for him to be in a vegetative state.

Retha:  Oh yes, to tell you the truth; actually prepared us so that he could die at any moment.  So it was not only the vegetarian state it was death, we were not sure he was going to make it.

Sid:  You were desperate, you didn’t even want to leave the hospital because you were afraid he would die and you wouldn’t be there.  And so you take your coat and you put it over your head and you do a very Jewish thing, we believe it was a tallit or prayer shawl when Jesus said go into your closet and pray.  So you pulled the coat over your head so that you have privacy to pray and you had a vision.  Out of curiosity, had you ever had a vision before?

Retha:  Oh, never.  This was the first time so today I know that it’s not for elderly ladies at eighty-six; I know that it’s for everybody.

Sid:  So you have this vision, but it’s on the blood of Jesus.  And on yesterday’s broadcast, you actually saw the crucifixion you saw the veil being rent in the temple.  Everything and you didn’t even understand these things because although you were a church goer you were into your career.  You were Mrs. South Africa.  You had that title and you had a successful business and then God starts speaking to you about the Blood of Jesus. 

Retha:  Yes, He first took me into the outer court and then He spoke to me about my works.  Because me and charity we had a good walk in life and I thought charity was the way.  But, Jesus is the way you see.  Works can’t get you there.  And He explained to me that all our works will one day come in front of Him and some build on the foundation which is Jesus with gold and emerald stones.  But some with grass and hay.  And he says to me, all these things are going to come through the fire and then we’ll see what’s left.  You can just go to Daniel 7, you can see what’s His throne like.  You can go to Revelation see His eyes as fire.  You know He is fire and I know today, God is a Holy Fire.  And then after that He took me into the Holy Place and in the Holy Place I saw a huge bath.  I didn’t know it then but I know it today.  The young Jewish bride, when she would go to marry she had to go to the miveh.

Sid:  That’s where we get baptism from by the way.  The miveh.

Retha:  Oh, alright.  So what ever happened to her before hand, if she went through the miveh she is clean and holy.  And there God spoke to me and said, you need the blood of Jesus.  The blood of Jesus, you need to be washed by the blood of Jesus daily and He said to me.  He said the blood of Jesus is the only thing that can ever set you free.  You need my blood.  Now I went into the blood and as a butterfly I came out and all the rest stayed in the blood and the scripture from Hebrews came to me.  My blood blots out all your iniquities your sins and iniquities.   And I was free, I tell you I was like an eagle and there I realized that this is why Christians are still in bondage because they don’t understand the blood.

Sid:  And the thing that was so amazing is would you say the church you went to was a church who taught how to be born again? 

Retha:  Absolutely.  You know there wasn’t another church to go because this is the best you can get I mean.  This is charismatic and everything but there’s a difference you see.  I was in the church but I had logos knowledge and logos knowledge just gives works.  But if you have Rhema word, which is Spirit that gives you an intimate love relationship with the King.

Sid:  So you’re in your prayer closet, you have this vision; tell me about a woman that came to you shortly in the hospital that identified herself as a prophetess.  What did she say to you?

Retha:  Yes, she came to me and said she was Prophetess Theresa and I didn’t understand anything about prophets. The first thing I said was I’m absolutely fine but I was so drawn to her by the love of Jesus that came out of her that when I found myself when I was next to her she starts prophesying things about my life that I didn’t to repent.  And I knew then she was so correct and you see this is why Jesus wants us all to daily die in our self.  That’s why Paul says that you need to daily die in your self is daily go through the blood daily dying self.  And I had to repent; like the Lord says repent the Kingdom of God is at hand.  The Kingdom of Heaven is a repent and the repent thing.  The other day I was in a church and God said to me before you start let them repent; because the Holy Spirit cannot flow when people don’t repent.

Sid:  Now what did she say to you about do you really believe your son will be healed?  Explain that.

Retha:  She just said to me, do you believe Christ can raise up your child from dead?  I said no I tell you the truth, the doctor says he’s like, there is no hope.  She says yes, I know that’s what the doctor says but do you believe in Jesus Christ.  And what I released that day is I did not know God.  I did not know His character.  You know when Moses had to trust Him God said to him one word; He said to him I’m a God of mercy.  I’ve heard about that God but I did not know Him.  And that’s why people have to go back to the character of God.  And yea, I did not know Him.  So she took me back and…

Sid:  Are you telling me that you could have gone to a Billy Graham rally, said a prayer with Billy and still not known God?

Retha:  Oh yeah, many people can do that. 

Sid:  Now Retha, this prophetess asked you a question about your son, what was that?

Retha:  She asked me if I truly believe that Jesus can heal my son and he will be alive again.  And I really didn’t believe it because I did not know Jesus.  You cannot believe someone if you don’t know him.  And I said no and she was asking me, have you heard about the man that was raised from the dead?  And this was a man from Nigeria.  I haven’t heard about that.  I said to her if this is true why haven’t the whole world heard about this man?  And she said, but this is true.

Sid:  This guy actually was in a mortuary and they embalmed him and he still came back to life.  Now that’s pretty wild but go ahead.

Retha:  And I also released I don’t understand what faith is about.  But the reason why I did not understand faith was because I did not understand Christ’s love for me.  And to take that fact you don’t understand the blood.  You don’t understand Calvary cause that is how much He loved us.  And if you understand His love for you you can believe in Him.  And that’s why you can give your whole life to Him; ever thing you have.  And then as she walked this road to me I just grasped something and then after this visitation that God gave me of Himself and Christ, I really truly believed how much He loved me.  To tell you the truth though, I realized that day it doesn’t matter if my son was dead or alive, it wasn’t about that.  It’s all about the Lord, it’s all about God, it’s all about Yeshua.  And I knew He wants me to know how much He loved us.  You see He didn’t need to save my son’s life to show me how much he loved me.  He did that all ready on Calvary.  This is the best.

Sid:  Retha why did you write this book “A Message from God?”

Retha:  My son went to Heaven and he came back with a message.  And the message was every day the same; Mommy, you have to go tell the world that Jesus is alive.  Go and do that until I can do that myself.  And all the writings everyday was about Jesus and what he saw in Heaven and the message of what God has for all of us.  And the message is to tell you the truth, is that Jesus is alive and he wants your life.

Sid:  What was the first message your son gave you because he started writing these messages from God.  What was the first one?

Retha:  I can’t really think the first one but I remember he says that he saw children in Heaven and he gave us the addresses of the two children he saw and I really, this was really one too much for me.  I didn’t understand this, and he gave the addresses and the words he says is his parents, your children do not want to come back.  They are so happy in Heaven with Jesus but they want you to give your life to Him because you are not ready.

Sid:  He also said to you in the book you talk about this, He said He would not have returned if you didn’t give Him to God.  How did He know that you gave Him to God after the accident?

Retha:  Yeah, I asked him how do you know that I surrendered him to God, and he said when I asked him that, he said remember the accident, when you was laying over my body, Jesus came and he picked me up and took me to Heaven and there you were with Jesus all the time and this is where the messages came from.  He was writing a letter to his friends, saying thank you that you prayed for me, he said Jesus showed me how much you trust Him and I want to tell you He is so proud of you of your faith.

Sid:  Let me tell you Mishpochah, chills will go up and down.  There is such an anointing on this book it really is a message from God.