Our Guest John Shorey
SID: So John, you found events that must occur before the Rapture. Give me some examples and what that meant to you in your belief of End Time theology.
JOHN: I was very strongly leaning towards Pre-Trib and I said to myself, well if God is telling me to do this study then I believe that by the time it’s done, God’s going to put this to bed. We’re going to have the answers. But there was this scripture in Thessalonians that just was one of those hang up scriptures where I thought, boy, that doesn’t quite make sense, doesn’t add up with Pre-trib. And that was in 2nd Thessalonians, chapter 2, verses 1-3, and Paul was speaking to the Thessalonians, and he says, “Don’t let anyone deceive you for the gathering unto him will not happen until there is a great falling away and a man of sin is revealed.” So this was the first thing that I needed to be able to add up and make sense. Because if there would be a great falling away, what would cause it? And if the man of sin, the Antichrist has to be revealed before the gathering at the end, well then the eminent teaching of a Pre-Trib Rapture that nothing has to happen, that the Rapture could happen today, if we have to wait for a couple of events then it’s not eminent. So as I was doing this study, one of the revelations, in fact, it was the first key revelation after a year, and I’m saying, “God, help me finish.” And that revelation came from Revelation where it talks about the beast coming out of the sea.
SID: Right.
JOHN: With 10 horns and seven heads, and 10 crowns. And this that it was talking about, the beast coming out of the sea was a one-world government that would rise at some point in human history where something would have to happen that would be so catastrophic that every country in the world, because the Bible says the Antichrist will rule over every people, language and nation. So every nation means all of them, every nation. So in my thinking, I realized that something has to happen so catastrophic that the nations of the world including America would have to be willing to give up their constitution and join a global solution. So as you read down a little further it says, “One of the heads of the beast was fatally wounded.” This is where God opened my eyes. All of a sudden, I realized—
SID: So I’ve always thought that means the Antichrist would be fatally wounded, come back to life, and everyone would follow.
JOHN: God showed me where it says, “one of the heads of the beast is fatally wounded.” He’s talking about these 10 leaders, the 10 crowns, okay, 10 global leaders, 10 regions of the world that will make up the global one-world government. One of these 10 heads, it’s like heads of state, one of the heads of state is fatally wounded, not necessarily in the head. Think about it. People, we’ve been so ingrained in our thinking that the Antichrist will be fatally wounded in the head.
SID: That’s what we’re looking for.
JOHN: That’s what we’re looking for. And when it happens, and one of these 10 world leaders is shot in the chest or wounded in the chest, or however it happens, and the church says, boy, I’m glad he didn’t get wounded in the head, we don’t have to worry about him being the Antichrist. Well this opened a new revelation. What I realized was if the Rapture can’t happen until the Antichrist comes to power and the Antichrist can’t come to power until the 10 heads are put in place, then what that made me realize is that some catastrophic event, probably a global economic crisis, would literally bring the countries of the world to their knees to where people would be begging for a solution and willing to join a one-world government. So now here we have three things that have to happen before the Rapture. We need to have the forming of a one-world government, the Antichrist rising to power. When everything falls apart and the Rapture doesn’t happen, I believe there will be a great falling away. People will be disillusioned that what happened to this promised Rapture. So then when you continue studying, when you read Matthew 24, it talks about the Antichrist going to the Temple and desecrating the Temple. Well if you read Matthew 24, it gives an outline from, you know, the beginning of a number of events. It mentions the desecration of the Temple and then you realize, if the Antichrist is going to desecrate the Temple then the Temple has to be rebuilt.
SID: But where’s the Temple?
JOHN: The Temple in Jerusalem and it’s not rebuilt.
SID: That’s what I mean.
JOHN: You know, so here we have the Antichrist showing up to desecrate the Temple. The Temple has to be rebuilt before he can desecrate it. And then you continue reading and studying, and in Matthew 24, it talks about, in verse 29, “And the sun goes dark and the moon does not give it’s light.” In Joel, it says, “The sun, the moon and the stars will all go dark on the Day of the Lord”. And in Matthew 24:29-31, it says, “Then at that time you will see the sign of the Son of Man coming in the clouds.” So it’s like, whoa, this event, the sun, moon and the stars, that has to happen. So there’s six events.
SID: John, you say we do not go through the wrath of God, but we must go through the seven seals. I mean, what’s the difference? I’d like you to explain that when we come back.
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