Sid: My guest is Rebecca Park Totilo. I’m speaking to her at a hotel at a hotel in Wichita, Kansas and we’re talking about her brand new book “His Majesty Requests An Invitation to the Royal Wedding of the Lamb.” I’m so excited about this book because this book for the very first time takes the ancient customs of the Hebraic wedding. Not the Jewish weddings we have today, but at the time that Jesus walked in the flesh. And shows how many of the statements of Jesus in the New Testament don’t make sense unless you understand the context of the Jewish wedding which then will prepare you for the intimacy of the wedding supper of the Lamb. And not everyone is going to that wedding supper, only those that have made Jesus Lord. And the best way I know to make Jesus Lord is to develop intimacy with Him. And as you develop intimacy with Him you understand what He is saying of the Jewish wedding in the New Covenant it helps develop this intimacy. Anyway on yesterday’s broadcast you’ll be really upset with me if I don’t ask Rebecca a question.
Sid: We found out that her background she was raped as a young person, her father died when she was young, she fell into drugs, into the New Age. She literally had Satan come to her in her dream, and Jesus came to her 3 times and the 3rd time He said “This is your last chance.” And then the next day her sister who was a Christian said to her that she really had to get rid of this the rock and roll music that is in her house and a lot of other things and she was a little shaken because she was comfortable with these things. That’s why the Bible calls it a familiar spirit that she was familiar and they were familiar with her. So you had this moment what did you decide it was your last chance?
Rebecca: Hm. I certainly did know that because I had already brushed death a couple of times and especially when we were talking about yesterday with a handful of pills and following in you know chasing it down with straight vodka. You don’t really realized how far you’ve slip; you know it’s almost like the frog in the kettle where the waters heating up around you because you’ve been in it and you’ve been comfortable with it and you’ve grown to acquire a development towards these things. And I do remember that night that I came home because I lived right next to bars. I was actually one block over where all I had to do was walk around the corner and I’d be there. I can remember that night just taking a handful of speed and then going out and drinking and not even realizing that I had gone from you know drinking orange juice and vodka to just straight vodka. And then it was just too easy, it had become so easy and comfortable to me and I went home for a minute to go get something and I became very ill and when I began to get sick I had actually you know the whole pills had come up out of me. And I knew that at that time that even though I wasn’t walking with the Lord I knew that it was the grace of God because I saw that all of these pills. You see I was so drunk that I didn’t even know I had taken that many pills. They had not even dissolved in my body you know I hadn’t digested them yet. And so it was God’s grace that He had me go home (Laughing) and get this out of my body.
Sid: What might have happened if you hadn’t?
Rebecca: Well I would die for sure because of the alcohol and the speed racing not knowing which way…
Sid: So when He said that it was your last chance it really was.
Rebecca: Hm, hm yes He knew the road I was on was heading me in the wrong direction for sure.
Sid: But you finally decided to go to your apartment to get rid of the junk. What did it feel like when you got rid of the rock music and all of the paraphernalia and things you had?
Rebecca: Well it was a euphoric feeling to get rid of the heaviness because you’re comfortable with it but at the same time it’s a weight on your shoulders.
Sid: It’s an oppression.
Rebecca: It’s oppressive and depressing and my life had become so dark and this apartment was a dungy old dark apartment and it was filled with darkness. And it was a terrible part of town and so immediately I felt the release just that burden had been lifted off of me.
Sid: And the wonderful miracle is you got set free from your addiction to drugs and alcohol.
Sid: But tell me about you went into ministry you were part of a wonderful discipleship program Youth with a Mission. But you were $10,000 in debt.
Rebecca: Do you believe that?
Sid: I mean with you full time with Youth with a Mission how do you settle that $10,000 debt?
Rebecca: Well I don’t know how I even created that much debt as a teenager, but here I was in college.
Sid: But it takes no talent with that plastic called credit cards.
Rebecca: Oh yes, I no and I had bought a new car and I had used the credit card for you know purchases and you know going to school and everything. Woo it added up quick! So here I was I had been set free and now it’s like we all recognized that I needed a drastic change in my lifestyle because it would have been too easy for me to fall back in the same habits again with the same people around living in the same area and everything. And so the Lord was showing me it was time to get out of there and get out of there quick. Now it was about 6 or 8 weeks before Youth with a Mission decide the trans-school was going to start. Here it was in the summertime and I was working and I thought it would just be a miracle to have this happen. So we began to just have yard sales and get rid of all of the junk in my house and my car. I actually had some people that helped contribute to help me get out of this mess really fast. And within 6 weeks I was debt free and on an airplane heading towards Hawaii to go to this trans-school. And they had and I did make application with them and they had of course accepted me immediately.
Sid: Not just debt free but free.
Sid: What was it like to be free?
Rebecca: (Laughing) Well that was something new for me because I had years of bondage and you know this stuff that I had been dragging around with me for years on me. But of course for YWAM it was rude awakening for them too. (Laughing) because here I was typically you know students that attend the discipleship trans-school are those that have been born again believers who have been raised in a church or have been walking with the Lord for some time you know and they’re just seeking the Lord for a deeper walk with Him. But here I was coming straight off the streets you know. (Laughing) and you know had been living in fornication and you know a terrible lifestyle and I was on the plane going there. And you know they just had a handful when they got me (Laughing).
Sid: But you know Rebecca I believe that we are right on the verge of seeing 100’s and 1000’s of young people just like yourself radically saved and the church better get ready for people like that.
Sid: Now tell me your not Jewish, where did this Jewish burden come from?
Rebecca: Well I’ve always been curious about my own roots and I’ll tell you the truth I haven’t got very far in my own research of my genealogy you know but that was sort of how it all began. My husband and I was sort of curious about our own you know where we came from in our families bloodline. But what really was stirring inside me was this discontent with the church its self. And being from the streets and living in that lifestyle I was really more comfortable with ministering on the streets with the prostitutes and the drug dealers then I was with the people in the church. Everyone really agreed with me they said “Yeah, your right you really do belong out there.” So having had for instance having had an abortion, in my past I knew how to minister to woman who had been there and who had been in that situation where they had to do that and I was able to minister to those people. That’s where the Lord had placed me. So I never was comfortable inside a pew you know inside a church. And so I guess I’ve always sort of looked beyond that and looking and searching for the truth. And it was actually several years ago while I was pregnant with my fourth child, I had just had my third child, and I would write in the nighttime it would sort of be like 10 to 2 in the morning I would write. And then at the 2:00 feeding I would feed the baby and then from 2:00 to 5:00 I would get on my knees and kneel by his crib and pray for the nation. And I just had such a heavy burden for what was coming upon America I just knew something was going to happen. Now I’m talking about 1997 – ’98 of course prior to Y2K and 911 and everything so nobody was really thinking in that way I don’t think as far as thinking that something was going to come. I had this sense the feeling that something was coming and I did this for 2 years straight. I did I never went to sleep. I would go to bed at 5:00 in the morning and I did this over and over again praying and seeking God and saying “I want to know the truth and I just want to know what the truth is; I want to know what’s on Your heart God.” And I had a passion and burden to know Him in a deeper way. So when I was doing this I suddenly became like Jeremiah the weeping prophet I mean I was crying all the time. I told my husband you know it was just a heaviness seeing what was coming and how people had just sort of fallen asleep and weren’t aware of a hunger for the truth in knowing God in a deeper way. And so I just began to say it for the nations and the Lord began to give me dreams and visions of things that were going to come. And that’s why I had such a heavy burden and that I weeped because I saw what was going to come upon America and I believers if they didn’t wake up. And it was really during this time in my pursuit for truth. And I mean it’s just a simple question and anybody can ask that question you don’t have to know a lot to say “God I want to know what the truth is.” I just over and over asked Him and He would tell me “You know what I really don’t think you really want to know this.” And I would say “God I really want to know, tell me” and that’s when I became weepy and cried because He did show me things. And it was in that question that He began to give me a heart and love for the Jews and for Israel.
Sid: You know what I’m finding Rebecca and I said this for many years but I believe it’s truer today than it’s ever been the dividing line of the church, the dividing line of the nonbelievers will be the same it’s going to be Israel. Oi vey we’re out of time…
Sid: Well my guest is red hot for the Messiah her name if Glenda Jackson. I originally found out about her the way we find out about many of the guests that we have; we don’t look on say Christian television or something to find a good guest, it’s kind of word of mouth. And one of my guests said “The most precise prophetess that he knows is Glenda Jackson.” So I decided well I’ve got to get to know this woman. Then I found out her grandaunt was Maria Woodworth-Etter. And for those that aren’t familiar with Maria Woodworth Etter she ministered in the late 1800’s, remember that was before woman were accepted in ministry, before we had good public address system, before we had internet, before we had television, before any of the mass media that we have. And she would gather crowds of 25,000 people, I mean the power of God would fall and 100’s of people would fall out. And she literally, and this is a true statement rock the secular world. She also rocked the Christian world, they hadn’t seen anything like that before and then reporters came to investigate her, and you know Glenda I love the story of the reporters because she would go into trances and she would be frozen for 3 days and so the reporters felt that she was faking it so they would take pins and they would stick her with the pins and she wouldn’t react. I understand Glenda that the most skeptical of reporters were the first one to fall over when the presence of God came, do you know if that was true?
Glenda: Yes it was my dad when he was a child his dad used to take him to her meeting and my grandfather would fall out and they’d have to put him a wagon and drive him back to the house with a team of horses because he was a farmer and he would have to be awakened so he could start farming. But she was very powerful and God used her in signs and wonders and many would be saved. Her crowds were many, many sometimes 3/4ths of them that were not saved would accept the Lord through signs and wonders and going into trances. When they would go into trances they would be taken up to heaven to the throne of God and witness Jesus and no one could deny the power of God in her meetings.
Sid: Now she said, tell me if this is true she said “That every sign and wonder that she was doing that none of it was new it’s just that we lost it.” Would you agree with that?
Glenda: Yes amen, amen. She brought back the faith that once was delivered to the church and stirred people up through the mighty works and they would go expecting to be healed no matter what they had. Even doctors and attorneys came to her and were healed in mighty… through mighty signs and wonders.
Sid: Now just out of curiosity you come from a long line of Pentecostal Ministers and did your father ever hint that you might have some of the anointing that was transferred through the generation of your great aunt?
Glenda: Yes he did and he would take me to all of the meetings; he had tent revivals. And when I was 8 years old I saw a creative miracle in his ministry and afterwards he told me the same things are going to happen in your meetings. He told me that when he would take me to prophets and they didn’t even know us they would prophesy over me, even Shambach prophesied over me at a tent revival.
Sid: Do you remember what he prophesied over you?
Glenda: I was 23 years old and he told me that in the latter days God was going to raise me up with signs and wonders that the churches had not seen in years. And I’ve always kept those prophecies in my heart and thanked God and believed for them. And I always asked God to keep me humble that I might bring victory and not put shame on His name but to lift Him up. That the church, my desire is to see the church back in the power of all Mighty God like I witnessed in the 50’s.
Sid: Now your dad in addition to having a secular job as a butcher but by night he was an evangelist he moved in signs and wonders. One day a horrible thing happened he cut his finger off, explain.
Glenda: Yes, while he was using the band saw he cut his finger off because he had his Bible on the butcher block and he always was reading because he was holding a revival at night sometimes they would last 6 weeks. Well he cut his finger off and he grabbed the cheesecloth and wiped it up and the blood from the block and through the cheesecloth into the sink and he went down the alleyway to the doctor’s office. And he was waiting there for quite some time and the doctor wanted to sew where the finger came off to sew it up and he wouldn’t the doctor. He said “I’m praying right now that my wife will come in” because she worked with him (my mother) and said “I’m waiting for her to bring down the finger and I want you to sew it on.” And he said “Oh, I can’t do that because it will cause gangrene you’ll lose your whole arm.” He said “No, I have a Great Physician, Jesus, and I’m waiting for Him to do His work, He’s the creator of heaven and earth. But he witnessed though to that doctor. And my mother came to that doctor and my mother came in and found it and she brought it down and he said “I’m been waiting and praying.” But in those days it’s coming back the Spirit moved on different ones like in the book of Acts and they knew what to do by the Spirit of Almighty God. And my dad had him sew it back on and he went home and we went to church that…
Sid: Oh, but wait a second I understand that the doctor was very upset even made your dad sign a waiver because he thought there is no way that this was going to grow back.
Glenda: Amen! This sign… paper he signed ended up in a medical journal but I was 8 years old and we were going every night to the tent revival. We came home at night and he was suffering with that finger it hurt him so bad but not while he ministered there was no pain while he ministered at night until he got home. And then red streaks started going up his arm and my mother she said “Oh, you should have listened to the doctor because look at that.” And he said “I’m listening to the Great Physician so don’t talk like that, I don’t want any doubt in my spirit.” So this night we got ready to go and you could feel Sid the faith in the air and the people, there are times you can feel faith no matter what people say within in the air. I was 8 years old I could feel it all through my body and I went and got into the car and I looked at my brother and sister, they were younger, and I said “The devil doesn’t know what he’s in for tonight.” And so when we got there oh it was packed out, God got the crowd together that’s what I like when Jesus is in the house there’s going to be a crowd. And my dad was preaching under the anointing stronger than I’d ever heard, he hit the pulpit and the old finger flew off and a brand new one grew in its place and people were so excited.
Sid: Glenda, did you see this with your eyes at 8 years of age?
Sid: That is just… did the finger grow out instantly or gradually?
Glenda: One just appeared it was just like all at once just came on his fing… where the old finger was. And…
Sid: Listen, you know I believe in the impossible but you are stretching me right now Glenda (Laughing).
Glenda: But it truly happened. I met a minister that my assistant that’s coming with me her husband knew my dad personally and knew about that. And it was in the services he had he told about it. And when the old finger flew off there was a paraplegic, born that way, in a wheelchair never had walked the old finger hit him and he was healed instantly!
Sid: Did he get up and start walking?
Glenda: He sure did, he ran.
Sid: I don’t know if an old dead finger hit me in the face that I’d be walking, I’d be screaming (Laughing.)
Sid: On yesterday’s broadcast you talked about the 7th Shemitah there’s something about the number 7 it’s so significant in the Bible but the 7th Shemitah means what and what lies ahead?
Jonathan: Okay this is really are so many mysteries in the mystery affecting us and will but this one is kind of in another realm and that is that the 7th Shemitah after you have the Sabbath year. When you have 7 of them that’s 49, the next year is the year of Jubilee. The Jubilee is like a mega Shemitah, it’s a mega Sabbath year. It’s a mega release and during Jubilee you get restored, if you lost your home you get it back, if you lost your land you return back to your land, back to your family, back to your inheritance so it’s a mega Shemitah. So it’s all part of the mystery of the Shemitah the Jubilee. Well, here is something Sid and if you ask me this you know awhile back I couldn’t even tell you this it just come. Here it is there’s this mystery where you know Israel lost its land in 70AD when the Romans destroyed the temple. And the Rabbis writings say that you know that last year like just before that was the year of the Shemitah. So you have the year of the Shemitah and then you have this other, they have the loss of Jerusalem okay. Now that’s been going on for almost 2000 years; well when did it reverse when did God begin to restore Israel? Well it was in the 1st World War British troops enter into Jerusalem. We mention before Shemitah brought the collapse of the Ottoman Empire and so their entering in and they regain Jerusalem. They offer, they say “Now Israel the Jewish people can return to their ancient land (the Balfour Declaration). And so the beginning of the return, the restoration land is this year; what year 1917. Now listen, remember get this that Jubilee only begins after the year of the Shemitah. You have the year of the Shematah the 49th year and then you have the 50th year. So what happens? In 1916, 1917 is the year of the Shematah we said “Before it was actually an economic collapse that year like all of these others. But it leads up the next year is the year of restoration like Jubilee and what happens? What’s Jubilee? That you get restored the land that you lost, the Jubilee. The Jewish people actually have the land is restored, their home is restored they come home, it’s the mega Jubilee. So you got it following the year of the Shemitah so it’s going to open up the whole thing. Now, what happens if you Sid if you go 7 Shemitah’s from that time 1917, seven Shemitah’s or 49 years that’s going to lead to the next Jubilee. Well, what happens? It takes you to the Shemitah of 1965 or ’66 and it ends at the end of 66 and the next year then would be the year of Jubilee and restoration. What happens? In the nest year Israeli soldiers enter through the Lion’s gate and they come to Jerusalem and for the first time in 2000 years Jerusalem is restored to the Jewish people again on the year after the Shemitah and 50 years from the other restoration Jubilee and what happens again Israel comes home and gets the inheritance back, get’s the land back and it’s all linked to the mystery of the Shemitah. And I’ll say this and again we’re not day setting God doesn’t have to continue it could be just that cycle however very interesting because if you go 7 Shemitah’s from then where does it bring you? It brings you to the next Shemitah and is coming which concludes at September 2015 and it begins and the Jubilee would be 2016. Now I’m not saying it has to be but…
Sid: Now I have to ask you a question now because I’ve interviewed experts in the blood moon and they’ve told me that the Shemitah has a blood moon and it ends on the feast of Tabernacles. What’s the tie in?
Jonathan: Okay, okay well first of all the blood moon period is a year and half people. But the interesting thing is we’re in the first kind of beginning of it. But once we hit September the entire period of the blood moons is all going to be the year of the Shemitah. You got to cool lesion right there. And now remember Sid we focused on we saw all of these things happen on this day called Elul 29 or around that day that’s the day appointed by God of whipping away, of nullifying and all of that. That’s the day of the last 2 greatest crashes 7 years apart, 9/11 and 2008 all happened on this day. Well when it comes up again in 2015 not only does it come again but it’s a solar eclipse. Now again we don’t have to say God has to do things but actually the Rabbi said that the Solar eclipse was a sign of judgment on the nations. Well, it’s interesting not only that but there’s going to be another solar eclipse in that blood moon year and that other solar eclipse is going to mark that center point day of the Shemitah and that solar eclipse is going to mark the exact peak day of the Shemitah. And so you’ve got everything coming together. Another interesting thing is that we talked about the tower, we talked about the mystery of the towers when that tower when they put the spire on that tower last year to make it the tallest building the day that they put the spiral on it was another solar Eclipse. And when all of this happens in 2015 it’s going to happen on a Sunday Elul 29 and there’s no stock market open. The last day that the stock market will be open leading into it will be Friday which happens to be September 11th.
Sid: My goodness, you know if you find a few of these precise dates you would say “Amazing.” But you have found so many that I believe that you have found the key to the patterns that are still operating in our life today that would give every Christian an edge over a non-Christian if they understood this. Is this what Daniel talked about in the last days there would be an explosion of knowledge and many people think “Oh, he’s talking about the computer.” I think he’s talking about revelation of the word of God.
Jonathan: Well, I believe as we said always warns His people so I believe we have to be ready. And while again while we don’t set dates nothing has to happen, not every cycle it doesn’t have to happen however I think that we have to be aware that things are conversing. The last 2 Shemitahs 2001 and 2008 it’s intensified we’ve gotten so precise its mind boggling. And on top of that I believe a great shaking is coming to this land and the world. And I believe it’s going to affect the economy, financial realm and it could be more than economical, financial event. That this nation is racing literally towards judgment. It could happen in this time period doesn’t have to but it could. And I think…
Sid: Alright if you had one minute to be a prophet for God what would you say to those that are listening?
Jonathan: I would say the time is late and that judgment is coming and God is not mocked. And God is calling this nation to return, God is calling His people to return to holiness, to being on fire for Him. Whatever is in your life that is in your life that is not of God get it out of your life it’s under judgment, now is the time don’t say tomorrow. And whatever that is not in your life that should be now is the time. These are the days of Jeremiah, and these are the days of Elijah and we have to be the light to the world this is our time to get right and to get great and to shine and be the lights of God we were called to be and to get ready.
Sid: What a fascinating week, as a matter of fact I’ve been running out of time because I don’t even want to look at my watch. Well I’m talking to Bob Fischer at his home in Tiberias, Israel who just finished a book called “Full Circle” in which he documents the majority of the Jewish people that they were like 3 different types of Jewish people at the time that Jesus came in the flesh. They were the Sadducees, the Pharisees, and the Essenes. And the one that were in the majority were the Essenes. And because we found these ancient manuscripts called the Dead Sea Scrolls written some 250 years before Jesus came in the flesh. The experts that have studied these, and they are not even believers and they have said it’s close to 250 years before Jesus came in the flesh. They had these writings, and when you read their writings then obviously you believe the Jesus is the Messiah. But they’ve been hidden, there’s a rabbinic conspiracy if you will and we may have time to get into that. But for such a time as this this is being revealed. For instance, Bob Fischer I was fascinated when I read their writings it sounds just like the Beatitudes in the Gospels.
Bob: Well actually Sid it isn’t the same the words but it’s the same form it’s the same poetic form. It’s almost like Yeshua had modeled His own beatitudes after these as far as form goes. Well let me read you some of it. “Blessed is the one who speaks the truth with a pure heart and does not slander with his tongue; Blessed are those who adhere to His laws and do not adhere to perverted paths; Blessed are those who rejoice in her and do not explore insane paths; Blessed are those who search for her with pure hands and do not importune her with a treacherous heart; Blessed is the man who attains wisdom and walks in the laws of the Most High and dedicates His heart to her ways and is constrained by her discipline and always takes pleasure in her punishments and does not forsake her in the hardship of his wrongs. And in the time of anguish does not discard her and does not forget her in the days of terror and in the distress of his soul does not loathe her.” Isn’t that beautiful?
Sid: It really and I love to read the writings of the Essenes these were my kind of Jews not the Pharisees that missed Yeshua. Tell me a little bit about (don’t even read it) but what was their belief on a doctrine that has been very controversial in the church called predestination? What did these… the precursors, if you will, the forerunners if you will, of Christianity what did they believe about predestination?
Bob: They were very Calvinistic in their orientation. The pages of the Dead Sea Scrolls that relate to this could have been written by the hand of John Calvin, they believed in predestination. They believed that God created both good people and bad people if you will. And at the time of their creation even before the beginning of the world they were predestined to either be in heaven or not in heaven. And that He did this for His own purposes.
Sid: Now you’re going into another subject of even far more importance now the Trinity or the Triune nature of God; there are books within Judaism called Kabbalah that actually talk about the Triune nature of God. Tell me about that.
Bob: Absolutely they were written down about 200 AD, their available and their regularly read.
Sid: This is traditional Judaism, this is not pre-Jesus.
Bob: This is today’s Judaism I was in a synagogue in Tz’fat some years ago. We went to the main synagogue there and this is the center of modern day Kabbalahism. And there in the dome of the synagogue there’s a dove coming down from heaven with a scroll in his beak. And in the same sense that the dove came out from heaven and landed on Yeshua at the time of His baptism it could be the same thing. It’s incredible, really!
Sid: Well let me ask you a question because you go into detail in your book but when I think of Kabbalah I think of a synonym called Jewish New Age. But originally that’s not what Kabbalah was according to your understanding.
Bob: This didn’t happen until the Middle Ages when it got polluted, it got polluted by the Pharisees. About the time of Rambam and after Rambam; this is Rabbi Maimonides Rambam.
Sid: Okay, speaking of Rambam, tell us who he is and why he’s so important.
Bob: Oh, he’s extremely important to the understanding of this whole system and the departure of Christianity from what became after the Pharisees, what Judaism became in the religion and the Rabbis that we have today. Rambam…
Sid: Isn’t it amazing Judaism traditional Judaism got so perverted from the truth what we call Rabbinic Judaism is a far cry from the Judaism of the scriptures. And Christianity I might say the religion of Christianity did about the same too. If we could only go back to what the first church had maybe we’d have the power of the first church.
Bob: Amen, amen to that.
Sid: So let’s go with this Rambam and tell us about him.
Bob: Okay Rambam was a very important patriarch in the scheme of rabbinical Judaism. He lived in the 12 century, 1125 to 1204. He was a bigot in life Jewish Sage and he covered a large spectrum of disciplines anything from medicine to theology. But he’s most well known for his book called “The Mishnah Torah” which is a guide to Rabbinical Jews how to live; the details of their lives even how to peel a potato these kind of things…
Sid: My goodness when I said we don’t think for ourselves I really wasn’t exaggerating if we have to be told how to peal a potato. (Laughing)
Bob: Even more important to the Mishnah Torah were his “Thirteen Articles of Faith.” And these were written down as a code of conduct so to speak for Rabbinical Judaism; there were 13 of them. And the most poignant of them from a Christian perspective are his 2nd and his 3rd Articles of Faith let me read them to you. Article Number 2 was “God’s absolute and unparalleled unity.” Three “Is the belief in God’s non-corporate reality which is His inability to take on human form or that He would be affected by any physical occurrences such as movement or rest or dwelling.” Now what Rambam did here in Number 2 that is in the belief in God’s absolute and unparalleled unity was to go directly against the Essences Triune understanding. Because he took this statement you know he used a variation of what the Jews called “The Shema” which is Deuteronomy 6:4; which is “Hear oh Israel the Lord our God the Lord is one.” The Hebrew word for one used here is echad. Now echad is a word that means unity but it’s the unity that allows for a plurality.
Sid: As it says in the Torah “Adam and Eve were echad one flesh” yet two people.
Bob: Two flesh and so there you have that and so what Rambam did instead of using echad for his paraphrase of the Shema he used yacheed and yacheed is hardly ever used in the Old Covenant. It’s used 12 times as I recall and was compared to 100’s of times that echad was used. But it’s a word that means unparalleled unity; that is a unity that can’t be divided.
Sid: It sounds like the old con called the shell game where you have a walnut shell and which one has the bean underneath it and you spin it around. It sounds like he pulled a real swift deal by changing that word it changed the understanding of Judaism.”
Bob: Absolutely, it was a pinnacle thing; it was a thing that absolutely built a wall between the faith that we have in Yeshua as believers in Yeshua; you and me and all of the rest and all of Judaism that doesn’t know Him. And they have a resistance and this… there is a movement that’s in the contemporary Jewish group; even half of the Messianic Jews who came to the faith out of a orthodox background are struggling with this problem with echad and yacheed because they came out of a Pharisaic background or a rabbinical background where they had where they can’t get beyond the idea that God is divisible; that He’s divisible that He’s a Chad. They keep thinking of Him as an indivisible yacheed and this is an incredibly important problem that we have in Judaism today.
Sid: You know one of my problems, and I see it so clear by understanding your book is that many Gentile believers in the Messiah want to go back to their Jewish roots; God is the One that’s doing this but they go back to the Jewish roots of the Pharisees rather than the Jewish Roots of the Essenes and I think that’s where they miss it.
Bob: Absolutely, this another tragic thing that is happening that my book really attempts to address in depth that so many of our Gentile believers that are looking for a way to identify with the Torah. To identify with Judaism pick up the long Judaism like you say and they really abandon their faith if they give up the idea that Yeshua is divine and a part of a triune Godhead. That He in fact is God then they end up into apostasy they’ve thrown away their salvation and so many of them are coming into this wrong understanding.
Sid: And I’ll tell you what bothers me so much is I find first I got excited with many Gentile Christians that said “Boy I want to understand my Jewish Roots” and obviously I got excited. But then I found that many of them were more interested in their Jewish roots which weren’t even Jewish roots they were Pharisee roots rather than Essene roots, which they should have been doing. And they’re more interested in their roots than their Messiah, than Israel, than Jewish people that are unsaved. That Ezekiel says “Son of man I’ve appointed you a watchman unto the House of Israel if you don’t warn them of their wicked ways than I’m going to hold you accountable. I mean it’s unfortunate but what God meant for good many Christians are going too far with.
Bob: Just this evening Sid I know it was a divine appointment Terri Morey who is a mutual friend of ours…
Sid: Will you hold that thought we’ll pick it up on tomorrow’s broadcast.