SID: Hello. Sid Roth here. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. My guest Janie Duvall is behind the scenes normally. She’s been my producer for how long, Janie?
JANIE: Almost, you reminded me, a quarter of a century.
SID: Isn’t that hard to believe? Where did the time go?
JANIE: I don’t know, but we’re living in the supernatural time zone and I’m getting younger everyday.
SID: I believe that. But Janie, I don’t know if you know this, and I don’t know if you know this. But when I became a new believer in the Messiah I was exposed to the Katherine Kuhlman Ministry, and I thought that was normal because the book, the Bible said that’s what we’re supposed to do. And so I started praying for the sick, and I prayed, Janie, for hundreds of people. No one, not one—
JANIE: Boy, you’re bold.
SID: Zero got healed. In fact, if you won’t tell anyone, I even prayed for someone to die in my healing line. And then worse than that, I went to some meetings by Kenneth Hagin, who is now in Heaven, and I learned about faith, and I was so excited. And I get home and a close family member develops a horrible disease. And I pray and I’m so sure this person is going to be healed, and they weren’t healed. I don’t even know why I persevered. But I guess there’s just something in my DNA that I persevered, and there’s something that God honors for perseverance. But I wish that what you’re learning now I have known. I didn’t have a mentor. I didn’t have people that understood what we understand today. But I can tell you this. God has honored the perseverance, and you are going to learn things in this particular supernatural show that perhaps you’ve never heard before.
JANIE: You’ve interviewed a lot of guests on healing. You’ve seen a lot of healings. You’ve heard every key from faith to worship, to the anointing. I want to know what’s the biggest key you’ve seen now for people to be healed?
SID: Hands down, I can tell you. I’m positive this is the most important thing, if you ask me to say one thing that I have learned about healing, you know the Amplified Bible in First Corinthians, the 14th Chapter, the first verse says, “Make this your great quest. Make this your great purpose in life. Make this the most important thing.” And just before that it explains love. But it’s not love like most people think, Janie. It’s not Hollywood love. It’s not even love for a mother for a child, which is a great love, but it’s not that. It’s not even love of a wife for a husband. It is agape, which is the love of God. And this is what our Messiah said, that people, “This is my commandment that you must,” I think commandment is a pretty strong word from the Messiah.
SID: “This is my commandment that you must love one another.” And then he goes so far as to say what kind of love. He says, “As I have loved you.” Well you know what he did for us. Now that’s why we’re to make this our great quest, our great purpose in life. And this agape love, you can’t understand because it’s God’s love, which is a higher level than human love, and we compare the human love to God’s love, and you can’t. You only need revelation. That’s the only way you’re going to know God’s love. And the revelation is in 1st Corinthians, Chapter 13, and it describes love. It says, I believe it’s verse 4 through 8, it says, and you know what I do, Janie? I personalize it. I think it’s so important to personalize it.
JANIE: It is important.
SID: Rather than it says, “Love is patient,” this is what I do. I say I am patient. Oy vey, sometimes I mess up royally, but I’m getting better. I am patient. But you know what? You can be patient, but can you be patient and kind? That’s the God kind of love. I am patient and I am kind. I am not jealous or boastful, or proud, or rude. I do not demand my own way. I am not irritable and I keep no record of wrongs. Wow. Keep no record of wrongs. That sounds like God. But after all, it’s God’s love, you know. It gets more interesting here. I do not rejoice about injustice, but rejoice whenever the truth wins out. But here’s the best part. Remember the perseverance I was talking about?
SID: That is God’s love. I never give up. You hear that? You hear that, devil? I never give up. No matter what you throw my way I never give up, because I know who wins and I’m in Him. But God’s love never gives up. I never give up. Why? Because I have God’s love in me. Why? Because you have God’s love in you. How can I say that? Romans 5:5 says, “The love of God has been shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Spirit.” So everyone that’s born from above has this supernatural love within them. But it’s fruit and it must be developed. And I can tell you that I tried at least once a day to read this chapter, 1st Corinthians 13, verse 4 through 8, in this personal way. Now Janie, you are a musician and you come from a musical family. Tell me just briefly the study you’ve done in music.
JANIE: I went to the Aaron Copeland School of Music in New York City and I studied composition, orchestration.
SID: Okay. When we come back you have the most supernatural things that happen to you when you play music. I’d like to find out about it. Don’t go away. Do you know why? It’s wonderful that Janie Duvall has supernatural things that happen to her when she composes music. But you are going to have wonderful supernatural things happen to you when you listen to her music. Be right back.
Sid: My guest Jean Blasi, I’m speaking to her at her home in Arlington, Texas. We found out on yesterday’s broadcast that if anyone every had an opportunity to have a spirit of rejection it was Jean. At age 3 literally her heart stopped, and she was told that by the time that she was 30 that she would be in a wheelchair. At age 8 she lost both parents, her siblings left her, she was adopted three times. When she got married she did not know God, she had a heart for God her whole life, but she did not know God. And she heard the audible voice of God, and as a matter of fact He came in one night and awakened her and she felt His love. She was like, is it fair to say Jean that you were on a search for knowing this Jesus that came to visit you?
Jean: Yes I was.
Sid: And then you got into a church, but it was a legalistic church and they said, “If you don’t give piano lessons the implication was that you’re not going to go the heaven.” So you hated giving piano lessons especially one mother that rather than leaving her child off she would sit and watch, tell me about that mother.
Jean: Actually now it was a very funny story because she wound up my spiritual mother bringing me to Christ but she would sit there, and she would just really bother me with her sitting there. And she kept looking at me and I would have these thoughts, nobody has that kind of love that she’s trying to act like she has. And just you know, there’s nobody like that, and so she would always just sit there and it would really bother me and then one day she said “Do you think that maybe I could stay a little bit and we could have coffee?” And I said, “Oh, sure.” And inside I was thinking that sure is not really good manners, to invite yourself, but I said “Sure.” We went out to my kitchen table, and she had these deep blue pools of life and love pouring out her eyes, and she just looked right in and she just got my heart with these words, she said, “Jean, has anyone ever told you that Jesus loves you?” And I said, “No.” And then she said, “Has anyone ever told you He died for you, to take your place and for your sins and to make you right with God.” And I said, “No.” And so she told me about this, and some reason we didn’t pray, maybe she thought I wasn’t ready. She left, I went into my living room, was sitting in my husband’s beige recliner and that same presence that came into my bedroom that night, the room just began to fill up with the glorious rays of the Throne Room presence, and begin to come all over me. And I was sitting there just crying my heart out saying “Jesus I don’t know the words to say, I don’t know what you say to get saved and so I just said, “Well, would you just help Yourself to me.” And the result of this book is me saying, “Jesus would You help Yourself to me.” And I knew in one split second I knew that I knew that I knew that I belonged to Him, I was saved and I’d be His forever, that we were now friends. I knew all of this so instantly.” And then this lady called me, I mean I called her and I said, “Oh, I found Jesus, I found Jesus”, and she said, “Well, have you asked Him for the baptism of the Holy Spirit?” And I said, “Well, I didn’t know there was one.” And so she was trying to explain, I went over to her house. And see you don’t have to be all uptight about everything; your heart has to be right, if your heart is hungry and your heart is searching you may not do it all right on the outside. So I didn’t know what…
Sid: I did everything wrong and I still managed to get saved. I never even heard the word repentance, I didn’t even know that word existed, I just prayed a two word prayer, “Jesus help.” No formula, no theological degree, “Jesus help.” And He showed up.
Jean: He likes that Sid, He so likes that, and that’s what He did with me. Well, I went into my bedroom the next morning and I just said, “Jesus, now she said that you can have this, and I don’t understand what it’s about, but I don’t know what speaking in a language means, I don’t know what that is, I don’t know what to do.” And oh, here He comes again the same Throne Room glorious presence fills the room, and here He’s all over me and I just start pouring out in a prayer language that I knew nothing of so fast, so fast, so strong I could not stop it, I don’t know who long I went on. And then all of a sudden this kind of slowed down and I quit, and I saw His hand, literally just that glorious hand, it was the presence, it was the anointing go inside my heart and He just touched me.
Sid: Did you literally see a hand go inside of you?
Jean: I saw the form of a hand, now I would probably say the anointing in the form of a hand, I don’t know. I literally saw a hand go inside and touch my being, my heart, my spirit. And when that hand came back out I said, “Oh, Jesus, I don’t feel like I ever had a pain my life,” I was totally free of grief and sorrow and pain and remorse, it was just incredible. And yet I had this new language that would be the power that would help me to live the Christian life because I knew I couldn’t do it on my own.
Sid: What happened to tall that rejection and pain and hurt?
Jean: Well, the Lord took care of that in another way, He immediately got me with a group of believers that were very powerful. And this one lady, we’re still connected today 35 years later; we never see each other, but we’re connected. And she said to me after one of the meetings she said, “Jean, Honey it is so obvious that you found Jesus and you’re just full of life and love and excited and everything. But she said, “Honey, you need deliverance and I said, “Is that more of Jesus?” And she said, “Yes.” And I said, “Well, I want that.” And so she took me back in her room and she, and her face blanched white and she said “Is there any change that you died when you were 3 years old?” And I said, “Yes.” And she said, “There’s a spirit of death,” and she cast that out of me that entered me when I was sitting on my daddy’s lap when he died. And then at that point and then later again started finding that same process and then she said and she commanded rejection, she took authority over a spirit of rejection, broke it, and His power cast it out of me and then fear. And I don’t know if you have time but I would like to tell you a story about the fear how horrible it was.
Sid: I think that it’s important, please.
Jean: Okay, I was so full of fear, I was afraid of everything, everybody, and then especially after our first daughter died. Then we had a son and I was so afraid every day he had breathing problems when he was first born and every day I was petrified, it was horrors of horrors, and then we had a daughter and immediately the first month of her life she was in an oxygen tent in the hospital with pneumonia and I just knew, I would beg and beg God please don’t let my kids die, don’t let my son and my daughter. And then my husband before I got delivered from a spirit of fear, he would go to work and I knew that it took him ten minutes to get to his drug store, and when he’d walk out that door I would just go into like rigors, my muscles would be taunt and I had migraines, my body, by physical body was a mess. I would beg God those, ten minutes please don’t let him get killed, please, please. And you need to understand I lived 13 years of my married life like this and when it was time for him to get off work and then I would say, don’t let the furnace blow up and don’t let anybody come in with a gun and shoot him in the pharmacy to get drugs. And I lived my days like this, my children were not allowed to go into anyone else’s car because I thought if they are going to get killed I want to die with them. Now this was the life Iived for 13 years after I was married. And after my friend delivered me of the spirit of fear within two months I Kirk and Kim, my son and daughter, with a youth group from Texas to a Colorado on a ski trip and never was worried a minute about them.
Sid: You know my sister had that same experience only she wasn’t even a believer, I took her to a deliverance meeting and the spirit of fear was cast out of her and she hasn’t been the same since. I might add that when she saw the reality of the invisible world especially the evil that’s the thing that drew her to absolutely make a 100% commitment to the Lord.
Jean: God will use everything won’t he Sid, there’s nothing He doesn’t use.
Sid: As a matter of fact, I think that it would be good if people had a healthy understanding of the reality of evil they wouldn’t be so seeker sensitive they would be more God sensitive.
Jean: Absolutely agree, it’ll paralyze your life, it’ll pull, it’ll keep you from ever knowing the Lord. And religion in the form of somebody thinks they got to work their way to God and try to be perfect, and He’s not looking for perfection or performance in us Sid. He just is looking for our heart, for us to love Him and to love, to obey Him and walk with Him.
Sid: My guest Jean Blasi, I’m speaking to her at her home in Arlington, Texas, and Jean should have been a basket case. I mean at age 8 her Father died, he literally died in her arms, her mother dies, her brothers and sisters are split up. To boot, her mother wanted her aborted before she was born. So talk about rejection and fear and every other adjective you can come up with; Jean you must have had a tough life having all that rejection.
Jean: I had a very, very hard life. When a person has that much rejection in them they don’t have an ability to hear anything but ears of rejection. It’s kind of funny now, but it sure was not funny then. When I was first married my husband, he was a pharmacist, and we would go out to different dinners and things that were professional. People, the women, would just be dressed just like incredible, and some women would walk up to me and just say, oh your dress is so beautiful. And I would think why didn’t she like my hair? I mean I was literally controlled with ears of rejection and a heart of rejection.
Sid: I find that many people that God has a very special destiny for somehow the devil gets wind of it and tries to destroy them. For instance at age 3 you had double phenomena, your heart stopped, and what was the prognosis for your life?
Jean: Well, they said that I had died and they were able to bring me back, of course you and I know that God brought me back. It was that my lungs were so bad, and that’s one of the reasons I had to walk through so much rejection is the fact that when the parents died at age 8 all of the family agreed that I didn’t know to know all of these things. So then trying to make decisions I’m sure they made the best ones they knew how to at the time. But they decided that they would take all of my brothers and sisters off to Chicago and they could go off with one of the older sisters. They did not tell me this, I was 45 years old before I found out the reason they didn’t take me was that my lung were so bad they knew that I would die, and I would not make it but no one told me.
Sid: And that just fed into that spirit of rejection.
Sid: Now, you get married, your husband is a believer, you’re not a believer, you come into some very difficult times, he’s about ready to lose the drug store that he owns and you don’t know what’s going to happen next. How in the world did you come up with the idea of do you think we should ask God for help?
Jean: Well, I think that’s one of the most incredible designs, supernatural things that have been in my life. From the time that I was a little girl I didn’t know what this presence was until I met Jesus and understood the presence of God, but I don’t remember ever not feeling this presence around me even as a little child. I would say things to my new mother, I would say when I’d trip or something I would say, “Oh, I think God’s telling me, my shoestrings untied.” And I would always refer back to Him, and yet I really didn’t know what that was. And so I just always remembered His presence, He would tell me things. So I guess there just always been something about me that knew that He’s the one to turn to even though to me He was God way up there in the sky. I felt like that because I had so many in my family die. Just like my first daughter dying with a lung disease I thought that that meant that I was a reject of God. So there’s no way that He could ever love me. I was just a reject, and I honestly believed with all my heart that He created some people, and he liked them, and some He didn’t. And He didn’t like me, and I was just a reject.
Sid: And again that’s that rejection that keeps slipping into you. Did you hear God’s voice in an audible fashion when He said that to you?
Jean: Yes, I did. When we were standing in the living room, when you were referring to when my husband had lost his drug store. I was saying “Let’s ask God.” Well the next day after we asked God I was in the living room again and this voice sounded like it came into the front door of our house and audibly He said, “Jean, Normal will not always be just a Pharmacist, he will be a minister.” And I’m sure that He might have even liked to have said to me, I would be one but there was no way I could have believed that because I didn’t even think He liked me. And I turned around and it frightened me because I thought a man had walked in the living room.
Sid: And did He tell you what to do after you lost your business?
Jean: Well, my husband said, “Well, I just feel like what He’s saying is that I need to start checking out some openings that I read about and I think I’ll check those out, and then He’ll tell us which one to take, which one to go to.” And that’s exactly how it happened.
Sid: And Jean you were in bed one night and you had a mysterious visitor that awakened you, tell me about this visitor.
Jean: Yes, I was asleep and I was suddenly awakened. Right at the foot of our bed was Jesus, He was so glorious, He was just Throne Room resurrected light rays of love and He stood there with His hands and His arms out to me and every part of His being from the head to toe was just rays, glorious rays of unconditional love just coming out of Him, and really infusing Himself into me and going right into me and the joy. He was love, He was joy. I kind of laugh because I said, “I didn’t know anything about goose bumps then,” and I was just goose bumps from my head to my feet and warmth and joy and love. I remember in my spirit I just, it’s like I just ran to Him, and I said, “Jesus, I didn’t know anybody could feel like this in their heart.” And I had always had pain, and sorrow and grief. This joy that He had was, just my heart was full of joy and happiness and love. And I said, “Oh Jesus I didn’t know anybody could feel like this inside, and He just stood there just infusing me with Himself.” And then just disappeared, and I didn’t know what to do with it. So I kept pondering what do I do with this, I don’t know what this means.
Sid: Now, you still weren’t a believer at this point.
Sid: But you had almost promptings to watch television, Kathryn Kuhlman would come on, and Oral Roberts would come on, what did you think when you saw them?
Jean: I would just burst into tears and I’d say, “Oh, Jesus they know you.” Now, I didn’t even know him, but maybe I knew Him some way, somehow. I don’t know, but I would look at them and I’d just say “Oh Jesus they know You, and I know that I can never know You, I know that I’m a reject, You don’t like me, all my family died, and there’s something wrong with me, but I want to know You Jesus.” And then another time I just felt drawn, I’d be doing something in the house and just be drawn to go turn the TV on. There was Oral Roberts, and I would just sit on the floor and just weeping just because His presence was causing me weep I loved Him so much.
Sid: Out of curiosity did you ever see Christian shows and say, “Well, it’s Christian, but they don’t know you?”
Jean: Well, I didn’t even go that far I would turn on a show and I’d go “Oh, they don’t know You Jesus,” and I’d just turn it off, and I didn’t even think Christian, it was some preacher on there and I’d go “They don’t know You.”
Sid: You know even today, I can look at Christian television, and I can tell the ones that have intimacy with God, and the ones that don’t. And it’s like I mean it’s such a contrast.
Jean: Well, the difference is life and death, or nothing happening. But when someone knows Jesus there’s a life giving Spirit, I don’t care…
Sid: Okay, you started going to a church, but it was very legalistic and they were very interested, and you were a concert pianist, they were very interested in your ability to play the piano and teach the piano. But they told you some horrible things.
Jean: Well, they did. I was already there playing for all their choirs, I was the church organist. God has gifted me greatly in ability to cook. I was cooking all kinds of meals, and some of the woman got a hold of me one day and said, “You should be giving piano lessons, God has given you a great gift and if you don’t use it you are going to lose it, He’s going to take it away from you.” And I did not want to give piano lessons, I had tried that. It was not where my flow was and I didn’t like it, but I though well, “If I want to get saved and I want God to like me, then I need to give piano lessons, but God knew what He was doing.
Sid: You know our time is slipping away and I want to talk about your brand new book, “Prophetic Fishing.” Now if I would have named it I would call it the “Whispers of God.” Because what you do is you urge people to lay aside all of their formulas, all of what they’ve relied on their whole life and rely on the whispers of God. And the most amazing things happen to you we are going to find out some wonderful things that happened to you. Some very special things that happened to you, but do you believe that everyone can operate out of the whispers of God?
Jean: Absolutely, no doubt whatever. When we belong to Jesus the Holy Spirit comes to live in our spirit, we have a personal Spirit. He comes to live in us to lead, to guide and show us the way, to talk to us to be our friend; He’s our greatest friend you could ever have. And sometimes His voice is just something you kind of know in your knower, I call it a knower, it’s not a booming voice out of heaven, but you learn to kind of listen to the little check in your spirit if He doesn’t want you to do something, it will kind of be like nothing real big, or you will actually just know something and you move on that little urge, and when you do that God loves obedience.
Sid: Now a lot of you don’t know this, but we get so many wonderful testimonies in of people that have been listening to our radio show, our television show, and they are instantly healed through words of knowledge. For instance I have this in front of my right now it says, “I just wanted to tell you Sid that you called out neck pain and God right away touched my neck.” And many of you are waiting for me to say words of knowledge, and I don’t say word’s of knowledge unless God gives them to me. But I can tell you something I can give you a miracle of knowledge. What do I mean by a miracle of knowledge? I believe that there is such a presence of God pouring out this broadcast right now that any, if you take your hand and put on your body and when I pray believe that you are healed of anything, you will be. Put your hand on your body if you need to be physically healed, or even mentally healed, if you need a miracle of any kind in the name of Yeshua, in the name of Jesus, I command spirits of infirmities to leave, spirit of deafness leave in Jesus name. Spirit of pain leave in Jesus name, I command you to be healed in the name of Jesus. My guest is Bruce Van Natta, and Bruce and I yield to the Spirit of God, that’s what I love about your book Bruce. It’s a brand new book it’s called “Saved by Angels.” I would imagine when unsaved people read this they end up getting saved, but when believer’s read this and this was what happened to me my Spiritual senses are just intensified and I begin to recognize God in everything. You identified seven areas that God speaks to us, tell me a little bit about this.
Bruce: Well, when we look at the Bible and we go through and look at every instance the Lord communicated with or to someone in the Bible we could put those in seven categories or methods as you mentioned and it’s not trying to put God in a box it’s just trying to help understand the way that He works more.
Sid: And you know after you give examples and you explain these methods that God operates then you force us to remember how God operated with us in these areas previously. What I find is when you rehearse what God did in the past it increases what He’s going to do in the future.
Bruce: Yes, yeah it’s a faith builder when we look at what the Lord has done in the past, I mean how many times in the Bible didn’t they make memorials to show and it just builds the faith for the future generations, and even for us further on in our life in our walk.
Sid: Give me a category and then an example of how God spoke to you.
Bruce: Well, one of the best chapters is when God speaks to us through the Holy Spirit those thoughts that come into our mind as you said, sometimes they are audible and sometimes they are not.
Sid: By the way I have to say this and I pray that God change it, but my thoughts are normally they appear as if they are my thoughts rather than an audible voice. In fact I’ve only heard God’s audible voice two times in my entire walk with the Lord. Whereas most people think if I don’t hear it every day I’m abnormal. Now I believe that it’s going to increase, but most of the time when I hear God’s voice it’s just an inner thought.
Bruce: Yeah, and we have to keep in mind that you know that we’ve been receiving these inputs. It goes back to that old cartoon little red guy on one shoulder and little angel on the other shoulder. And we’ve been receiving those inputs since the time that we were babies and so they become second nature to us so it’s easy for us to get confused and not have the discernment when God speaks into our life.
Sid: Well, give me an example.
Bruce: I guess one in referring to Holy Spirit. I’m driving along the road this one day on the way to a job site, I drive by a couple crosses in the ditch next to a railroad track and the thought comes to my mind that I should stop and read the name on the crosses. So I slowed my truck down but I couldn’t, one cross was freshly painted the other was not, it was faded. I couldn’t read the names from my truck and I slowed down and I couldn’t read it, but I didn’t want to be late getting to this customers site so I went on my way to work because I had my own agenda going. And so I finished work and at the end of the day I had to drive back past the spot again, now again I’ve got a time schedule that I’m working against because I had to get home, take a shower, eat supper, get to church for a meeting. And so as I come to this spot this thought comes to my mind again that I need to stop and read the names on these crosses so it just nagged me and nagged me and so I come to a stop and I still couldn’t make it out from my truck so I quick got out, ran on the edge of the ditch, read the names on the crosses. They meant nothing to me, I did not recognize them at all, jumped back into my truck muttering to myself that how dumb I am for wasting the time when I got to get going or I’m going to be late. So I get to church, I you know I take a shower, eat, get to church and pastor, it’s an evangelism meeting and often times He’ll set up appointments for us to go visit people. And so this particular night he had made two different appointments and there was a couple different teams of us there. We breakup into teams of two and he handed my partner this card and on this card he gives us background information like name, address, phone number and the reason why and he’ll tell us a little bit of back ground as to why we’re going to make this call. And so he starts to explain to me and my partner that we’re going to a visit that hadn’t been to church for awhile and he’s talking and my partner said, “Why hasn’t she been to church, do you know?” And he said, “Yeah, her daughter was in an auto accident and after the accident just quit coming to church.” And my partner handed me the card and I read the last name of the woman, and about that time the Holy Spirit just grabbed me by the throat, by the heart I should say, and I just started to cry and I knew and I could barely get it out, Pastor what was the daughter’s name? And come to find out it was the name of the cross that I had read on the cross that day. And so I was crying and I told pastor and I told the small group what had happened and the part that was making me cry was I almost didn’t stop. In fact the Lord told me several time and I almost didn’t stop because I had my own agenda. There was other things in my mind that were competing with God’s voice and so I almost pushed it out and silenced it by just ignoring it. And yet we went to that meeting that night and we you know we small talked a little bit and then I cut right the chase and I told the woman that happened that day and she looked at me square in the eye and I could tell she was measuring, she was trying to decide if she should believe me, and that she should believe what I was telling her. And all of a sudden she popped out this question, she said, “Why would God stop you to have you read that cross today?” And it’s a good thing that the Holy Spirit was talking because I had no answer in my flesh, but the Holy Spirit spoke and I instantly popped out the answer, I said, “God wanted me to stop and read that name so that I could come here and talk to you tonight and tell you that He remembers your daughter, he remembers you, He loves you and He know exactly what’s going on in your life. He remembers it from then, and He’s just reaching out His love to you through us and He just wants you to feel loved and know that you’re loved. And she started crying and I started crying. You know we do a lot of home visits and I have to tell you that this is one of the most powerful home visits I’ve ever been on and it was because God went before.
Sid: And you almost rejected that thought thinking you had bigger and better things to do than to stop and look at the name on a cross.
Bruce: Sure, sure I didn’t decipher that it was God speaking to me, it was just a thought. As you said, “Just a thought that came to my mind, I didn’t realize that it was God speaking because there was no thunder, there was no lightning. And you know that’s easy for us to expect those things to be loud and spectacular. When often times most often it’s like Elijah in the Old Testament, God spoke to Him in a whisper not in the earthquake, not in the fire, through the whisper.
Sid: Now, did God show you what will happen this week on radio as people listen to us?
Bruce: Well, you know you started one of these shows and you were talking about there’s anointing on this book and every time I’ve heard you say that I have to tell you there’s a vision that the Lord gave me. This was as the book was in production before it was ever released, but while it was being printed the Lord gave me a vision one day when I was praising and worshipping and what it was it was a printing press and as the books were coming off the printing press He was touching each one, He was physically anointing every book as it came off the printing press. And as I saw it I was praising the Lord and I was saying, “Thank you God for that,” and you know He was speaking. And then the next vision was that physical like earmuffs, cold weather earmuffs they were being removed from people; and there was blinders like horse blinders on people’s eyes; and in this vision I was watching those blinders being removed. And the Lord is speaking and He’s saying that “He’s just going to use this, just another tool in His tool box that He can use to show people how much He loves them.” And by reading it people’s blinders will be taken off their eyes so that can see in the spiritual and that the earmuffs will be taken off so that their ears will be unplugged so that they can hear, they can hear Him. And so my prayer and what I feel the Lord is saying is that He will affect people in that way you know through the book, through this radio ministry, through whatever avenue that He chooses to release this message.
Sid: Well, what I’m finding is I hear God voice, I mean I’d been used in the supernatural as long as I’ve been a believer, but there was like an increase as I read your book. So I believe that vision you had of the printing press is of God.
Sid: And I believe that there are people that are saying “Oh God I want to hear Your voice and He’s shouting at them, but they’re dismissing it because they don’t realize it’s His voice…”
Sid: Now my guest is red hot for the Messiah, her name is Julie True. I’m speaking to her at her home in Franklin, Tennessee and I got a hold of her music. Every time I hear music that causes me to get closer to God, or they highest level of anointing I can find, and that’s the one that’s my personal soaking music right now. When you find out where this came from she was leading worship for someone that I’ve interviewed before James Goll. And he was actually doing a teaching series that then became an entire book. The teaching series was “Angelic Encounters.” And the whole circumstances, Julie as you explained it, just all fell in place to be an album but you didn’t use songs that other people had written, what kind of music did you use?
Julie: Well, we call it soaking music, or spontaneous songs which is where you are just singing in the spirit basically, singing from your heart in that moment what God is putting in your mouth and in your heart to sing. And so that’s what ended up feeling like that was what we needed to put on this CD. But we didn’t…
Sid: But that’s the whole thing that God is doing with the church and with His people rather than programmed same old, same old. We are relying more on the Holy Spirit, we’re on the edge and I love living on the edge because if God doesn’t show up I’m in big trouble. Do you feel that way sometimes?
Julie: Yes, and I mean that I was literally trembling for a lot of the time that I was singing these songs and I felt incredibly weak in my own self because I literally had no idea what was getting ready to come out of my mouth. And so it was very unsettling and yet once you start walking in that kind of place then everything else feels stale you know.
Sid: Yeah, everything else is religious is what it is.
Julie: That’s right.
Sid: Well tell me about I have your CD in front of me, it’s called “Healing Love.” And you call it interactive healing experience. Why do you call it interactive?
Julie: It really was part of an obedience thing where I felt like that it had been prophesized that this CD before it was even out would be an interactive healing experience. And it was also just kind of coming into and embracing of who I am and how God uses me in that I started realizing that for all of my history in leading worship my favorite thing has always been singing over people who are hurting. And just singing their heart and singing for you know, interceding for them and so it was like I just, I believe that they are going to actually not just sit and listen to a song but they are going to interact with the living God and in the presence of God as they listen to these songs.
Sid: Well, tell me about the section that we have right now called “You are here.”
Julie: That was being recorded and sung during a time when we were ministering, I was singing over people who were being prayed for. And the presence of God was so strong at that point of time that I literally felt like I was drunk, which I don’t know that sounds like kind of crazy but it was…
Sid: No, it’s not crazy it’s not without precedent because in Acts the 2nd chapter these Jewish people that were so filled with the presence of God were accused of being drunk. So I think that it’s the same Spirit.
Julie: Well, it was I mean it was just like being really really woozy.
Sid: Now had you ever felt like that before?
Julie: Well, I have, but I don’t think to that extent. This was a really special time of God’s presence and it was, it was really powerful, and it was just like being carried along by God without having any idea what I was going to say or sing or play or anything. But there was such a connection with the Spirit of God, and such a connection with the heart of people who were crying out to God that that’s the way that it came out.
Sid: Did James Goll have any prophecy over this music or over you that you can repeat?
Julie: Well, he’s the one; he’s actually the one that prophesied that this would be an interactive healing experience. He had never heard it wasn’t even finished yet, but he just one night he was praying over the team members and their Ministry Encounter Network, and he said that “That this CD was going to be an interactive healing experience.”
Sid: And what are your testimonies that are pouring in now?
Julie: I have had all kinds of things, there are massage therapist that have sent me testimonies of how they use it. You know some people just have a ministry with that where they pray over people and so they will play this music to usher in the presence of God while they are ministering to people through massage therapy. I’ve had people who have counseling ministries; one lady that told of how Jesus appeared and ministered to this lady, and healed a wound from her childhood while they played that, played “Healing Love.” I’ve had reports of deliverance from demons like radical kinds of deliverance.
Sid: How about the opposite where people perhaps have the deliverance from demons and all of a sudden they’re flooded with angels. Have you had any reports like that?
Julie: Yes, there was one girl she was living in a house that was a 200 year old house that had been used as a stopover point for slave traders back in the time of the civil war. She was living there with her son who was five years old at the time. And they were having demonic manifestations that were noises and they would hear talking and there was just a real assault going on especially with her son. And they started playing this CD 24 hours a day and you know that she was praying and declaring the life of God in that house too. But they ended up having angels flood the house and people would come and visit and say, “There are angels in this house, they’re angels everywhere. So we’ve had a lot of response about angels being manifested in people’s houses. One Pastor that uses it everywhere that he goes as a soaking time before he speaks because he has dreams and visions while he soaks to it.
Sid: Okay, now it’s time for you to soak to it but only a little bit. It’s called “You Are Here.”
Julie True “You Are Here” from the Healing Love CD excerpt.
Sid: That was “You Are Here” it’s one of the selections from “Healing Love” Julie True’s new CD. How long has this been out, this has been out awhile I guess Julie?
Julie: Well, it’s been about a year I guess.
Sid: Oh, I’ll call that new, it was certainly new for me. One of the things I understand is that parents find that babies love to sleep to this CD.
Julie: Yes, they’ve had many reports of children who won’t sleep unless they are playing this CD. We have even at our church we have just a real orientation towards soaking music even with children from the time they are very young. And so we have used soaking music where I would go in and do times with the five years olds and they would say, “I fell very sleepy.” And you know…
Sid: You know that’s what happens to me when I listen to it and I feel like I can move into a realm in the Spirit with this type of music that is going to open up visions and words of knowledge…