Our Guests Bob & Jayne Griffin
Sid: I have Bob Griffin on the telephone he’s ministering in Charlotte, North Carolina he’s a prophet and on yesterday’s broadcast we find out that God showed him what would happen on September 11th and it did but he showed it before hand. Now Bob on yesterday’s broadcast you explained how God took you a long way and really became real set you free from addictions and all of a sudden dreams started coming to you. We talked about your first dream that you had in which you literally were set free. But you actually started smelling cancer explain that.
Bob: Absolutely I had so many experiences after the infilling of the Holy Spirit I had mentioned on yesterday’s broadcast that I had never had a dream. And what was interesting is that in the days to follow everything in me became alive. Everything in me I became aware of things I began to smell things literally for the first time. I began to see in ways I had never seen before it was literally like the scales had dropped from my eyes.
Sid: Now was it a little scary?
Bob: Well it was I was in a whole new world; I was in translated into a kingdom although I didn’t have that description or that vocabulary at the time I literally was just brought into a brand new place and it was a little bet frightening because I began to know things, I began to know things and I could not quit praying to the depths that I had done on drugs out in the world all of a sudden I was praying and seeking God. I had this tenacious hunger I couldn’t get rid of the hunger I would steal away and I would just read the word for hours on end. I began to pray in the Holy Spirit and I would build myself up and I would pray sometimes 5, 6, 7 hours a day. I would wake up in the middle of the night praying my spirit man my kingdom figure inside of me would just keep on praying. And it was during that period of time that I began to know things and I began to smell things and I began to hear things. At first it was frightening because I had to literally learn to discern. I had to learn what was from the Lord and what wasn’t from the Lord. But the one easy thing that I had is that everything that I had ever desired to do was rooted probably in wickedness and un-forgiveness but the things that the Lord was speaking to me were so fresh that I knew that it wasn’t my thoughts. So it was very easy for me in the very beginning to begin to discern His voice and it became harder later as I began to get rooted in the church and had to learn a new type of discernment because I suddenly realized how insidious the enemy was in trying to come into the church.
Sid: For sure. Bob there’s a problem and I’m expressing this I’m articulating it right now on behalf of a lot of our listeners.
Bob: Okay.
Sid: And that is we have heard prophecy after prophecy that has not come to past, we’ve gotten cynical over it, we’ve had dreams and in these dreams they’re symbolic and we reach a point where we say “Well I’m not even sure if it was my pizza or whether it was God and if it was God I’m not sure what He’s saying.” And there’s such great confusion and cynicism and many people that are charismatic in expression have literally found themselves slipping back into good fundamental churches because of all of the wackiness. Would you address that?
Bob: I certain will it’s interesting that here I am speaking about a Hebrew word but the Hebrew word for dream is khalom and it literally means to recover or to plump. And what I believe the Spirit of the Lord is doing right now is He’s pouring out His Spirit in dreams to recover our hearts and to recover us because we have become cynical there are so many times I’ll just admit in my travels around the world I’ve been in nation after nations now it just 12 years of ministry, but I see the pathetic more than I see the true prophetic. I see things that are just…I see people propping up lies verses prophesying and there’s just been a tremendous call in the Spirit for the truth to come forth for the people to just really truly minister by the Spirit of the Lord. And there’s a difference in ministering by the spirit and having divination. You know when I began to discern God was doing things I would walk into a room and I would smell the cancer I didn’t know why I knew it was cancer I just knew that it was cancer and I would step out on a limb and live in that realm of faith and I would speak it out and it would come to pass.
Sid: Tell me one particular case where you smelled it and you commanded it to leave and the person was healed.
Bob: Well I walked into a room at one point and I began to smell a really foul odor in fact I couldn’t even place where it was coming from but as I was praying I kept feeling like this is the spirit of death. And so I began to look around the room to see where it’s coming from and what’s it doing and I began to set my eyes on somebody and as I began to set my eyes on them I just suddenly knew I don’t know how I knew they’re experiencing cancer. So I walked up and just kind of tested the waters you know I mean this is kind of a new thing for me I walked up and I said “Excuse me are you praying about an illness and they said “Yes.” And I said “Is it cancer?” And they said “Yes, I believe that God wants us to take authority over it right now.” And we began to pray and later we would get reports from people. We were out in Salina, Kansas and we were praying in a meeting and I was praying for a young man who had chemotherapy radiation burns on his head he was bald. He had a tumor half the size of an egg on his forehead and I was praying for him to receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit to literally be baptized in the Holy Ghost. And while my hand was upon him I heard the Lord say “Open your eyes.” Well I opened my eyes just in time to see this cancerous tumor just go and disappear right out of his forehead. And I didn’t know what to say I was shocked, I looked at him and said “Hey dude what happened to your head?” And he reached up to feel it and he started putting his hand around his whole head trying to find where did that tumor go and all of a sudden the Lord had me point at a couple standing next to him and I said “Now do you believe?” And this man hand shot up in the air and as they shot up in the air they fell over speaking in tongues. I turned to a pregnant girl next to them and I said “Now do you believe?” And she started speaking in tongues and I later found out that the young man was the cousin of the man with the tumor and he had come there to mock me in the meeting even as I had mocked that evangelist from the beginning. But the demonstration of the Spirit of God is what’s changing’s people’s cynical minds. And as Paul’s saying “I don’t come with persuasive words of man’s wisdom but in a demonstration of the Spirit and power.” And so when we demonstrate the Spirit of the supernatural people who were cynical suddenly have nothing to stand on anymore. When you speak a word out and you foretell an event then it comes to past I believe that the Holy Spirit, I believe the angel of the Lord stands over that testimony to refute any demonic principalities that would try to steal the faith from those that are hearing it. And so the demonstrations are what causing people to change in their hearts.
Sid: Is the change in the Spirit going on? Is the real ready to come forth?
Bob: I was in a meeting last night that was so powerful such an outpouring of the Spirit of the Lord that we went in there anticipating that we were going to prophesy over the children. And I had asked the adults to bring your children in and we had probably somewhere over a 100 to a 120 children brought in last night. Just spontaneously they just began to dance before the Lord and when they did during the time of worship they were just bored, they were arguing, they were pushing each other it was very uncomfortable. And I got up and went into a prophetic song and when I did the whole atmosphere changed. And when the atmosphere changed the little kids came up and started dancing and all of a sudden there was powerful praise and God began to pour out His Spirit for healing. And a man we already prayed for a word of knowledge for a tooth it was interesting the Lord said there’s a tooth the left side upper jaw. After we prayed for the man he apparently fell down and was gasping for air in this crowd of people and somebody said “He’s having a heart attack, somebody said he’s needing an inhaler he’s needing something.” He was having a seizure, we took authority over a spirit of affixation and you can hear as that spirit was convulsing him the spirit leaving him and leaving that building. I mean it was just amazing and testimonies have some forth today of all of these little children that got saved because they saw this. We had one little boy that was sobbing for hours and I walked up to him at the end of the meeting and I said “What’s wrong?” And he just was smiling, he was crying he looked scared I said “Are you scared?” He said, “No.” He said, “Jesus is real.” And you know I’m seeing that this is the outpouring that God wants; He’s wanting these little children to demonstrate to people how to enter into the kingdom. When these little children got a hold of the prophetic words they began just coming forward and just ministering to the Lord and hands up and tears coming down their faces and bringing other little kids for prayer not even just themselves. We had 2 little girls that brought a little white girl up to me and I said “What do you want?” And they said “She wants to talk.” And it was apparent that she was some type of a Down syndrome child and had very difficult time talking her mouth was deformed and I said “Can you say praise the Lord?” And it just came right out of her mouth “Praise the Lord.” She started jumping up and down like a piston and just clapping her hands and tears coming down and she was so embarrassed that she spoke that she covered her face. I mean I want to see that every day.
Sid: Bob you have dreams and visions what about the average believer that’s listen to us right now can they have dreams and visions or if they’re having them can they understand them?
Bob: I absolutely believe that the whole world is about to experience what they’ve never experienced. I went to a recent search engine just to…less than 2 weeks ago there were over 6,280,000 different dreams and visions websites and announcements just on a secular search engine and this is the secular world that’s talking about dreams and vision while, we as the church that should be experiencing the outpouring are really just kind of rejecting it because we’ve seen the pathetic and not the true prophetic. But I believe that the Spirit of the Lord is saying just as he did in Joel that his is the time of the outpouring and it’s pouring out on all flesh, it’s pouring out in the earth, its pouring out in the world. And we need to have somebody that helps us to interpret. I mean Daniel was chosen to help Nebuchadnezzar, Joseph was called to help Pharaoh so their names alone indicate that we need help in the world. The world needs help, the world overseers need Spirit filled believers to see over them.
Sid: What do you mean when you say “A dream or a vision is God’s invitation to a relationship?”
Bob: Well quite simply the dream or the vision is not only God’s invitation but it’s the language of the Spirit that’s calling us and as He gives us that dream or vision we’re answering it back to Him. Jeremiah had that experience with Him and Paul had that experience and that’s what God’s doing in us right now. He’s calling us to a relationship by giving us an invitation to ask Him “What does this mean?”
Sid: And are you finding that when people sit under your teaching they’re able to hear by the Spirit just like you on their own dreams and visions?
Bob: Absolutely the word declares that “He who receives a prophet in the name of a prophet receives a prophet’s reward.” And so quite simply that means that you get to see what they see, hear what they hear and speak what they speak, and Israel experienced that with John the Baptist.
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