Sid: We want everyone everywhere to enter the play, it’s the last act.  It’s the final scene before the play is over.  And you can’t afford to sit on the sidelines anymore.  You are called front and center, and you have understand that and you have to understand that God has a destiny for your life and it’s not to look at the back of some ones head the rest of your life and die.  There is something more, and my guest Ryan Wyatt has come out with a brand new book “School of the Supernatural.”  Ryan, how many pages is this new book?

Ryan: It’s about 200 pages Sid.

Sid: And this book will totally equip you to be a participant in the greatest show, greater show than Broadway could ever put together.  And you’re called, you have a destiny.  Ryan tell me, just because I’m personally curious, I heard about your friend in Australia that had his spiritual senses open for four months.  But I learned something by what he could see in the invisible world.  First tell me what happened to him.

Ryan: Well, he just a, God opened up his spiritual senses you know we have spiritual senses to see. Hear, smell, touch and taste in the spirit just like we do I the natural and God opened those up for him and they remained opened twenty-our hours a day for four months.  And he began to see the battle that’s going on in the spirit realm everyday between the kingdom of light and the kingdom of darkness battling over our lives personally and who will have the greater influence on our lives as believers and as unsaved people that don’t know the Lord.  And it was a powerful encounter that lasted for four months.

Sid: And the thing that I was kind of overwhelmed with is he saw that when you express an emotion you admit like a sound frequency that, if it’s like anger you could attack demons, tell me about that again.

Ryan: Yeah, you know in the natural we just think communicating is by body language or speaking through your mouth, but there are other ways of communicating just like there are radio waves that go through a room.  And one of the things that he saw in the spirit is that when you think a thought or when you add an emotion to your thought it actually is releasing things from you.  It’s releasing communication from you in the thought realm and even scientists have proven that thought emit a frequency.  And this is something that even science picked up on.  But what he realized is that depending on what you’re thinking or what you’re feeling, you are empowering either the kingdom of darkness to develop an atmosphere around you or you are empowering the kingdom of light, the Kingdom of God to develop and atmosphere around you.

Sid: That’s why we are always supposed to always walk in love.

Ryan: That’s right, and when people were thinking negative things he said it was like blood in the water for sharks.  You know sharks can smell one drop of blood in the ocean from a long long way away and so when you are full of doubt and worry and anxiety and unbelief or anger or unforgiveness or rage, it releases things into the atmosphere that actually draw the kingdom of darkness around you and cause a very hard oppressive atmosphere to come around you.  And on the flip side when you are praising God, when you’re full of joy and you’re full of peace, when you are worshipping God, you are giving your heart to him, you are giving your life to him, the atmosphere is empowered by the kingdom of God and you feel freedom in your life, you feel victory in your life and so really it is what you release from you that empowers the atmosphere around you.

Sid: And I would be remise if I didn’t ask you about the time you were speaking in Manhattan and the most powerful witch in Manhattan came to your service, tell me about that.  You were actually in the East Village.

Ryan: Yes Sid, I had had a vision where the Lord told me to call a girl out of the crowd by name and he gave me the girls name and told me to speak to her a message that He had for her.  And as I was doing that in the meeting the presence of God came from behind me and hit this girl.  She began to weep and really begin to turn her heart toward the Lord and this presence of God moved out throughout the crowd.

Sid: So you had seen this in a vision before the meeting.

Ryan: Yes, just like New Testament believers you know Ananias being told…

Sid: Does this happen often?

Ryan: Yeah, yeah if you, this is part of our inheritance as believers to hear the voice of God!  And he gives us keys; He tells us how to minister to people, and what to say to them.

Sid: Okay, you saw this woman, you knew what to say, you did it and then what happened?

Ryan: This presence of God moved row by row back to about the seventh and tenth row somewhere in there and then it stopped and you could tell because people were weeping.  And a woman walked up at the end of the meeting and I recognized her as one who was sitting towards that last row where the presence of God had stopped.  And she said, “I’m one of the most powerful witches in the East Village in the Manhattan area, she said I’m a local palm reader, she said I have known spiritual power my entire life since the time that I was born, I was raised in witchcraft, but she said tonight, when you were speaking about the glory of God, Ryan; when you were speaking about encountering God I saw the light of God begin to fill the room and when that presence was moving back through the crowd it was like a cloud of light was the way she saw it.”  And she said, “I have never felt love in my entire life, but when that presence touched me I think it was love, and she said, I must know this Jesus because He has greater power than anything that I have ever known before in my life.”  And she gave her life to Christ and wanted to know Jesus that very moment.

Sid: Now, all the gifts of the Spirit operate in your life; what was the last gift that was manifested that was activated in your life?

Ryan: Well, you know, in going back to spiritual senses we can see, hear, touch and taste in the spirit and God at times will use the sense of smell in the spirit and for me that is one thing that I had never experienced.  I thought that it was a little bit crazy I didn’t understand it, and one day we were in a meeting where the presence of God rolled in and these fragrances, these amazing flagrances would fill the room and that sense was activated for me; and to this day the Lord uses it for me in the area of deliverance.  When I’m praying for people and I sense that they have a demonic bondage in their life I will smell this most horrific evil smell and that’s how the Lord will communicate to me that they need deliverance in their life.

Sid: Now, are you a 100% convinced that you’re not a special person, but that you serve a special God and that special God will do the same things through everyone listening to us that He’ll do through you?

Ryan: I’m 100% convinced Sid, because as I have taught the principals in that “School of the Supernatural Book around the world, I have seen countless thousands of people that have been activated in a deeper intimacy with God. This is all about knowing God more and we’ve seen so many people go to a whole new level of supernatural lifestyle in their walk with Jesus.

Sid: Tell me what you’re personal prayer life is like and actually what you do every day?

Ryan: My personal prayer life is keeping the line of communication open with God all throughout the day.  You know many people put God into a box where certain times of the day they communicate with Him, they kind of wrap God around there lifestyle, but for me I’ve learned to wrap my lifestyle around God.  And so all throughout the day I’m turning my heart to Him, I’m worshipping Him, I’m loving Him.  Even in the middle of work, I’m just telling Him I love Him and as I do that…

Sid: That’s almost like Brother Lawrence “In the presence of God” book.  Have you ever read that book on experiencing the presence of God?  He was a dishwasher in a monastery, but twenty-four seven his thoughts were on God.

Ryan: Oh yeah, “Practicing the Presence of God” by Brother Lawrence and actually that was a book I read years ago that impacted me and help teach me to dwell on the presence of God.

Sid: Now do you practice things such as soaking in the Spirit?

Ryan: Absolutely, in fact even as a family and my children, we’ve taught them to worship and really soaking is just getting into the word of God, mediating on the word and having worship music on and just setting your heart before the Lord to hear His voice and it’s been awesome to watch my kids learn even to hear the voice of God and to experience Him.

Sid: Tell me the experience with one of your children that they’ve had with God.

Ryan: Well, as we’ve helped them to understand the presence of God, they’ve really become more sensitive and one day my wife was dropping me off at the airport and then driving home with the boys and she noticed my oldest son, seven years old crying in the back seat and just shaking.  And when they got home, my son was still shaking and he said, “Mommy, the Glory of Jesus if vibrating my bones.”  And he had a scrape on his leg, quite a big scrape and he says that he had a vision of Jesus come to him in the back of the car and Jesus said, “I heal all your wounds and took his scrape and took it away.  And Sid the scrape was completely gone.  It was completely disappeared off his leg as he’s vibrating under the presence of God.

Sid: Wow, I can just feel the Glory of God as you are recalling what occurred and that had to be more exciting to you than some of the miracles you’ve seen before your eyes when your own son has his own encounter with the living God.  And there’s going to be a lot of spiritual sons and daughters that are listening to us right now that want to become a habitation for the Spirit of God.  They want to be able to discern His voice; they want to get rid of all of the blockages from their hearing God’s voice and blockages to them having intimacy with God.  They want to be able to see into the invisible world, they want to be able to bring the presence of God into their school, into their office, into their home.

Sid: The middle wall of separation between Jew and Gentle has finally come down, that’s in Ephesians the second chapter and what Paul says is that will make a full dwelling place of God by His Spirit.  But then my guest that I interviewed on yesterday’s broadcast, Ryan Wyatt told me that after that happens, in Ephesians Chapter 3, what did God show you that is supposed to happen to the church in Ephesians Chapter 3?

Ryan: Well, Jesus has an inheritance in us Sid and that inheritance is through the church the manifest wisdom of God; all that God is will be put on display to the principalities and the power of the air.  And what that means to us Sid is that the presence, the power, the love, the character, the integrity that Jesus walked in when He walked this earth.  The corporate…

Sid: Now, wait a second now, you teach on gifts of the Spirit, the supernatural realm, why are you all of a sudden talking about character?

Ryan: Because character is so important, I mean there’s a false move of the supernatural that is sweeping the world in the New Age and in the occult and in witchcraft, and people that are not following Jesus Christ that are operating in the demonic realm.  And one of the things that sets us apart as believers is that we’re submitted to the Lord Jesus Christ and we have His character in us and we have the fruit of Spirit; love, and peace and joy.  And you know…

Sid: You know I heard this story a long time ago that if you just concentrate on the Spirit of God alone you’ll blow up.  If you just concentrate on the word of God without the Spirit of God you’ll dry up.  But if you get the word of God and the Spirit of God together you’ll grow up.  What truth is in that?

Ryan: Absolutely, you know in the book of Matthew Jesus was speaking and he said, “You are in error because you know the word of God yet not the power of God.  And it’s possible as a believer to be full of the scripture of God yet be completely dry and lifeless of God’s presence in your life.   And it’s also possible on the other side to be full of flakey supernatural experiences, but not have a balance in character and the scripture.  But God calls us to be balanced in our character to know the word of God and to be naturally supernatural just like Jesus was.

Sid: Just too whet the appetite of our listener’s right now you’ve had some outrageous miracles.  For instance tell me in England about the person that had their ear drum removed.

Ryan: Yes, I was speaking about how Jesus said, “The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand.”   That means that His realm, His glory is at hand right now if we’ll just step into it.  Just like there is radio waves’ going through the room, the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand if we tune in.  And there was a woman in the crowd Sid, who had had a radical mastoid rectory.  Which means they cut behind your ear, they take out your eardrum, they take out the inner ear bones, everything because she had had tumors there.  So she had no equipment to hear with, she was completely deaf.  And as I was talking about the glory of God being at hand, the Kingdom of God being at hand, she began to sense this popping in her ear and every time her ear would pop she would begin to hear something and it would increase over time and over the next several moments God literally recreated an eardrum in her ear and she was hearing perfectly.

Sid: And if you think that that’s wild, and I think that that’s wild and I think that’s wonderful, tell me about the lady that lost sixty-five pounds instantly.

Ryan: Yes!

Sid: Sixty-five pounds!

Ryan: Yes, absolutely.  She had a thyroid condition that caused her to not be able to lose the weight.  And again in an atmosphere of a meeting where we were talking about how the power of the Lord is present to heal, that the Kingdom is at hand.  She grabbed a hold of that and felt the electrifying presence of God come all over and she stood up and about thirty minutes later in the meeting and immediately lost sixty-five pounds; had to grab a hold of her pants to stop them from falling down as the weight supernaturally disappeared.

Sid: Now, Ryan you move in sign and wonders, I’ve seen you minister.  You could have a wonderful ministry worldwide and actually you do where you minister in signs and wonders.  Why the big emphasis on equipping believers to do what you do and maybe even do more than you do?  Why’s that your emphasis?

Ryan: Right, because Jesus Christ inheritance is to have all of His people feasting upon His goodness and releasing His Kingdom in power.  And so as I’ve grown closer to the Lord, I’ve picked up His heart to see other’s moving, everyday people, janitors, school teachers, lawyers, fast food workers, everyday people, loving God, loving people and healing the sick, cleansing the leper, raising the dead, releasing the Kingdom that is at hand.

Sid: Tell me one person that you have taught the secrets of the supernatural that God has revealed to you that is doing what you are doing.

Ryan: I’ve got a number of interns that we’ve mentored in internships that are…

Sid: Pull one out, tell me about them.

Ryan: One of our pastors on our staff, and moved down here and I took him through an internship and sees miracles in his ministry, metal removed from peoples bodies, crone disease healed, all sorts of things in his ministry.

Sid: In your opinion, if someone is a sold out Bible believer and they read your book that is called “The School of the Supernatural” can they move in that same power and that same character that you’re moving in?

Ryan: Absolutely Sid.  This book has been highly requested all over the world because it gives you keys of how to position your life before God for an intimate supernatural lifestyle with Him and what comes from that  is power.  The Kingdom will begin to manifest in your life, you’ll see victory in your personal life and you’ll be equipped to release the presence of God, the joy of God, the power of God, to others around you.

Sid: Now, I’ve got to find out about that visitation you had in Uganda where 55,000 people witnessed the Heaven’s opening up.

Ryan: Yes, absolutely incredible, the crusade was just about to start a large open air meeting in a field, 55,000 people were gathered and suddenly I hear all of them begin to gasp and they’re looking up in the sky and as I turn around Sid, there is an oval shaped rainbow with clouds forming under it in the shape of a cup.  I know it sounds crazy but it is so true, and as that appeared in the sky demons began to cry out from people, the blind began to see, the deaf began to hear.  It was just a mass pandemonium as God…

Sid: But the thing that was so amazing is you did not just see it, all the people saw this.

Ryan: Absolutely, there wasn’t a person there who wasn’t looking in the sky.

Sid: Paint me a picture again of what they were seeing with they’re eyes.

Ryan: Yeah, it was an oval shaped rainbow almost like they was an opening in the sky and an oval shaped rainbow, and it was like Heaven poured forth for fifteen minutes as it remained in the sky.  The sick were healed, the lame were walking, demons were being cast out of people, without…

Sid: But, wait a second, in other words you weren’t commanding demons to come out, it is just the presence of God was so strong that the evil couldn’t co-exist with it, is that what was happening?

Ryan: That’s right; nobody was on the microphone; nobody was doing anything, just the presence of God in the atmosphere; people being delivered from sickness and disease.

Sid: You know you say that so loosely, but here in America we just don’t see blind people getting their sight, we don’t see demons coming out screeching out of people.  We don’t see these types of miracles.  Do you believe that this same thing will be happening in America shortly?  Could you picture what it would do to a city?  An entire city would sell out to the Lord if that were to happen.

Ryan: Absolutely, I believe it.  God’s Kingdom is coming more and more.  And the more people wake up the reality of the supernatural realm especially believers they will become conduits, gateways to see these kinds of things happen in their churches and their jobs and their cities.

Sid: Tell me some of the areas you deal with in your brand new book, “School of the Supernatural?”

Ryan: Well, first of all we lay a Biblical ground work for your right as a believer to live in the supernatural.  It is very important that people understand that this is grounded in the word of God.  And then we move on and we teach people how to posture themselves to hear the voice of God.  And then, what does the language of the spirit world sound like?  And I say spirit world because many people hear from God and they don’t realize it.  And many people hear from the devil and they don’t realize it.  And so we talk about what does the spirit world look like?  What does it sound like, how does God speak to you?  Are angels supposed to be a part of your life today?  What kind of experiences are available to you as a born again believer?  What is your inheritance according to the Bible and how much of God that you can experience; and so it takes you for the practical biblical groundwork all the way to how to’s, the nuts and bolts.

Sid: Hello. Sid Roth here with Renny McLean. Renny, I would be interested. When you’re at your home, no one is there. Do you worship God or is it just when you’re out in public? Tell me the truth.

Renny: No. I worship. My spirit just becomes still before Him. I enter into that place of ease.

Sid: Can you do that right now as if you’re in home without anyone here? And I’m going to watch you, and I’m going to do the same. And I want you to watch Renny and I want you to join in. But then, I want you to transition of watching him. And now I’m just releasing myself totally without any reservations to the most high God who is worthy.

Renny: Hallelujah. Hallelujah. [chanting in tongues]. [chanting] We worship you. We honor you. We magnify your name, oh Lord. You’re worthy. You’re worthy. And you’re holy and you’re worthy, Lord. Who is like unto thee in Heaven and in Earth. There is none, there is none, there is none. So I offer you my worship and I give you the Glory. [speaking] Just lift your hands where you are right now and just begin to worship Him. You reach a point in English where there is no word to really define God by. And He gives you a melody and He gives a tune, and you just begin to sing that tune. Do you know that when Satan got fired you were his replacement.

Sid: [chanting] I love you, Lord.

Renny: Because you are now designed to worship. Worship is in your DNA.

Sid: [chanting] I worship you, Lord.

Renny: Just lift your hands and worship….Hallelujah. Hallelujah.

Sid: [chanting] I praise your holy name.

Renny: Hallelujah. Hallelujah. I see a kidney condition being healed. I see a kidney condition being healed right now. You’ve had a lot of trouble in your kidney area. You’re on a dialysis machine. I see a creative miracle taking place right now in someone’s kidney right now. I see it very clearly. Very, very clearly, very clearly, very clearly. I see it very clearly. Amen.

Sid: I’m seeing an ear. And so that means whatever you need in the ear, if you need your hearing, deaf spirit leave in Yeshua’s name.

Renny: Amen.

Sid: Open in Yeshua’s name.

Renny: Amen.

Sid: And more important than even that, I pray that you hear in the Spirit as you’ve never heard before, ringing. I command you to leave the ears in Yeshua’s name. Eardrums, I command you to be recreated in Yeshua’s name.

Renny: Hallelujah. Amen. Amen. Perfect. Amen. Amen, amen, amen. I see arthritic conditions. Somebody is watching us right now. You feel like electricity going down your spine. The Lord is healing it. The Lord is also recreating spines right now. Amen. Amen, amen, amen. I see, oh Lord, thank you. I see somebody who had a hip replacement some time ago and the hip replacement, it’s not worked out good for you. I’m seeing God do a creative miracle in the hip area. I’m seeing it. I’m seeing it right now. Right now. Right now. Right now. Right now. There’s somebody watching me right now, as you’ve been lifting your hands worshiping the Lord you’re actually experiencing weight loss. You’re experiencing weight loss. You say, is that possible? Oh yes because in the Glory of God matter doesn’t matter. When you worship you defy the laws of gravity and what’s of Earth falls to the Earth and that which is of God ascends. There’s weight loss taking place now in, oh thank you, Father. Thank you, Father, thank you. I see leukemia right now also being healed. I see leukemia. I see lupus right now being healed. It’s as if God right now has just given a jolt to your immune system. You’re being healed now in Jesus’ name. Thank you, Father.

Sid: Renny, what would happen if everyone that’s watching us now in their home became a worshiper of God? There would be hope for our country. What would happen if everyone watching us right now said, I’m going to take one hour a day. I’m not worried about an audience. I don’t want anyone to see me but God. What would happen to that person?

Renny: Cities would change. Atmospheres would change. Environments would change. Wherever there is worship, God will come forth. Worship always brings the power of God forth into a city, into a neighborhood.

Sid: What would happen their health?

Renny: Oh my goodness gracious me. Oh sickness and disease, it would begin to die.

Sid: What would happen to their families?

Renny: Oh, their families would come back together.

Sid: What would happen to their finances?

Renny: Oh that’s all you need, the Glory of God.

Sid: What would happen to being able to walk 24/7 in that Glory?

Renny: Can I say this to you, Sid? This is what I just heard in the Spirit. Worship is verbal. But there’s also worship that’s nonverbal. It’s also a mindset. You walk in the consciousness that He’s your Lord and practice the presence of Jesus. And right where you are you can just lift your hands and know you’re there.

Sid: And not even say anything.

Renny: And not say it. It’s your body language. You just surrender. At that one moment in time, you just yield.

Sid: Let me make a suggestion. You’re not supposed to make vows. But I urge you to say to yourself, I am going to worship everyday no matter what. And someone’s back was just healed in Jesus’ name.

Renny: Amen.

Sid: Someone’s neck was just healed in Jesus’ name.

Renny: Amen.

Sid: Taste, breathe in that atmosphere of Heaven right now. Do you know, there’s a fog.

Sid:  How would you like to be in the full dwelling place of God by His Spirit?  If you have something to do with reaching Jewish people, then you are merging that wonderful ancient spiritual DNA on the Jew with that New Covenant spiritual DNA on the Gentile to form the full dwelling place of God by His spirit.  And I have a young man on the telephone by the name of Ryan Wyatt and I saw him several years ago speaking and I was so impressed with his teaching gift and with the signs and wonders that followed after he taught that I got to know him.  And he contacted me recently because, Ryan Wyatt, you got to answer this question.  You are a young man, how old are you?

Ryan:  I’m thirty-two.

Sid:  Okay, how do you know so much?  How do you know so much about the supernatural?  I mean you’re literally provoking me to jealousy.  Why do you know so much, you shouldn’t know so much as you do at thirty-two?

Ryan: Well you know Sid, I’ve always been someone whose just hungry for the real thing and you know anybody can read the scriptures and many people know the scriptures and the Pharisees and the Sadducees knew the scriptures.  But when you read the scriptures and you cry out to God for the reality of New Testament Christianity to come into your life, the scriptures become a doorway into experiencing the Living Word, which is Jesus Christ.

Sid:  But, you have a gift of communicating things in such a simple fashion and these are deep, deep things of the supernatural.

Ryan:  Yeah, it came in the glory, having experiences in the supernatural presence of God, God equips you; He empowers you with His Holy Spirit.  And just out of intimacy with Him God has given me gifts and abilities to be able to train people to know Him more and to experience His glory, His supernatural presence.

Sid:  Now, you’ve had many crucial points in your life that made you who you are today and I’m going to take you back to when you were sixteen years of age and you were back packing in the Big Horn Mountains of, where are the Big Horn Mountains?

Ryan:  It’s in the Colorado line area.

Sid:  And a snow storm comes, why were you out there by yourself?  I know enough about climbing mountains that you don’t go by yourself.

Ryan:  Yes, we were on a youth group back packing trip and we had, each of us had a little bit of time to ourselves.  And looking back at it Sid, I feel it was a divine setup from the Lord in getting lost and God was after my heart.

Sid:  Okay, so you got lost from the group and there’s a snow storm going on, fill us in on the details.

Ryan:  Well, the snow storm had not started yet, I was lost out in the mountains and I was out there for hours, I was out there all night long.  Ended up slipping…

Sid:  How could was it?

Ryan:  It was very cold, it was in the middle of June, but we were in a very high elevation and it got a lot colder when I slipped into the river.  And it was freezing freezing water and the group had searched all night and was not able to find me.  They even sent someone down the mountain to get Red Cross and Red Cross said that there was a snow storm that was about to hit at that elevation and that they had no hope of finding me until tomorrow, until the next day. And I just began to cry out to God, I realized that my life was about to be over and I began to cry out to God.  And Sid, all I know was what came out of my mouth was, “God if you’ll save me I’ll give my life to You in full time ministry.”  And I remember thinking, wow I didn’t mean to say that, but …

Sid:  At that point were you a sold out committed Christian?

Ryan:  No I wasn’t, I loved the Lord, I had a real salvation experience, but I had become lukewarm.  I had backed away in my heart towards the Lord and really was in a place of desperation where I realized I was going to die and I was crying out to God for desperate help and I heard Him audibly that night for the first time in my life when I said, “God I’ll give to you in full time ministry if You save me.”  And I’ll never forget it, it was like God’s voice thundering through the mountains, He said “Okay!” and that’s all He said, and within moments the group found me supernaturally; we were a whole mountain apart from each other.

Sid:  Well, did you keep your word to the Lord?  Did you keep your promise?

Ryan:  I did Sid, that was at the age of sixteen and because of that testimony opportunities opened up to begin preaching the Word of God, the gospel around a ten state region at the age of sixteen.  God opened up the doors and I walked through them.

Sid:  Okay, I’m going to take you to the great Brownsville, revival in Pensacola, Florida.  Which I went to many times with Steve Hill, and Pastor Kilpatrick and from all over the world, back sliders came there and rededicated there life to the Lord, and there was so many miracles and so many things.  But what effect did it have on you?

Ryan:  Well, it was during that time Sid of being a student in the School of Ministry there that I had a visitation, a two and a half month visitation from the Lord.  At times He would manifest in the glory cloud of His presence like He did with Moses and like He did with the priests at times in the temple.  And for two and a half months every day God would visit me and just break my heart with passion for Him and it was in those moments in that two and half months where He taught me about how to live in the presence of God and He taught me about His Kingdom and how to move in miracles and signs and wonders and…

Sid:  So, you were in the School of Ministry, but you were also in the school of the Holy Spirit.

Ryan:  Absolutely, I had my own personal visitation right in the midst of that revival.

Sid:  And you found a wife.

Ryan:  Yes, I did that was my better half, I found my better half and that was one of the greatest fruits of that time, absolutely.

Sid:  And I find it fascinating that your wife’s grandparents there was a miracle, it was written up in a book by Kathryn Kulman, “I believe in miracles.”  Tell me briefly about that.

Ryan: Yes, Kelly’s grandmother had a severe form of cancer and she was healed sitting under Kathryn Kulman’s ministry and Kathryn had her on her television show and also shared about it in her book.  And I have had other family members saved and healed under Kathryn’s ministry.

Sid:  Now, God told you something that our Mishpochah really need to know.  You were meditating on the scriptures and you’re really big on meditating on the scriptures and we’ll talk about that a little later on in the week.  But the Lord physically walked into your hotel room, tell me about that.

Ryan:  Yes, I was getting ready to preach in a meeting and I was just asking the Lord what he wanted to do and suddenly Sid, the temperature in the room immediately changed, it got very very warm.  And I began to feel the presence of God like many would even in the Kathryn Kulman days beginning to vibrate from the inside out.  And I thought my goodness what is going on?  And I began to weep just as the presence was so strong.  And Jesus walked from around the corner of my hotel room into my room and He was covered with oil Sid.  And as He stood next to me that oil manifested on me, my hair was covered with oil; my face was covered with oil; my clothes were covered with oil and Jesus began to speak to me for those few moments there and it absolutely changed my life forever.

Sid:  What did He say to you?

Ryan:  He said, Ryan I am desperately hungry that I would have a people that they would lay hold of their full inheritance.  And He began to show me images of Him dying on the cross and how many believers are only living according to you know, by what one drop of His blood paid for.  Many believers are living a life saying, “Well I’m saved, I’m born again and one day I’m going to go to Heaven.”  But Jesus died and rose from the dead not just so that we would go to Heaven, but that we would connect Heaven to earth.  And it’s part of our inheritance to experience Him in great depths now in this life; to experience on earth as it is in Heaven.

Sid:  You know we have a spectator sport mentality in reference to Christianity.  What is going to change this Ryan?  I mean as I understand it the least Christian 2,000 years ago would probably have had their own television show today.

Ryan:  Yes, I believe the church has settled into a place of apathy and complacency because many in the church have forgotten our goal and our purpose on the earth.  Many have settled for this idea that we’re just to be a good Christian and the world is going to get really dark all around us, but there is nothing we can do about it and just hang on, be a good Christian and Jesus is going to come save us just in the nick of time.  But God has revealed to me and it’s in the scriptures that Heaven is coming here.  Heaven is coming to earth and we are the gateways of God, we are the House of God, the body of Jesus Christ on the earth.  And one of the things the Lord told me is that “Before He comes for us, He’s first going to come to us and through us to demonstrate who He is to the world.”

Sid:  Now, did He tell you that at the time when He walked into your hotel room?

Ryan:  Yes, He did, yeah He spoke…

Sid:    You have to repeat that again, that is powerful!

Ryan:  Yeah, he said, “Ryan before I come for the church I’m first going to come to them and visit them and come through them to manifest myself to the world.”  He also said, this Sid, He said, “I’m desperately hungry that I would have My full inheritance in My people.”  And He toke me to Ephesians Chapter 3, where Paul, the Apostle Paul says “That through the church the manifold wisdom of God will be put on display to the principalities and the powers of the air.”  We’re living in a time where the recent statistics says that most believers don’t even have a Biblical world view, which means they don’t know what God wants to do through the church to impact the world.

Sid:  Ryan, what if at sixteen, someone had put in your hands the book that you have just published its brand new, it’s called “School of the Supernatural,” what difference would it that have made in your life?

Ryan:  It would have accelerated my walk with God exponentially; it would have cut fifteen years off of knowledge and it would have been a gold mine in my hands to show me what is available to me in my relationship with God.

Sid:  What I love about the book is that you teach about all these areas that you’ve walked in supernaturally; how to tap in to this supply of Heaven that is already inside of you; how to become a habitation of God; how to discern His voice; what’s blocking your being able to hear His voice; what’s blocking your intimacy; how to see into the invisible world; how to bring the presence of God into any circumstance in your life.

Sid: Hello. Sid Roth here with Renny McLean. Renny, I am so intrigued with the Glory. That’s the manifest presence of God that literally follows you when you speak, when you’re at home. And you have a handle on worship, like few people, and that God wants everyone. He doesn’t want you to have a corner in the market. He wants everyone to worship Him. In Heaven, that’s what we’ll be doing, so why not on Earth?

Renny: Amen.

Sid: What is actually going on when we worship in Heaven and in Earth, and in us?

Renny: Heaven wants to synchronize with Earth. There’s always an alignment between what’s happening in Heaven and what God is saying on the Earth through our worship. Now when we begin to worship atmospheres begin to change. We go through realms. We go through time. Now this is so interesting. Now some people, now I hope this is not misunderstood, some people have what I would define as a second-day concept of worship.

Sid: What does that mean?

Renny: In other words, elementary, you know.

Sid: Kindergarten?

Renny: Kindergarten. In that we worship to get there, not realizing our worship begins from there.

Sid: In other words, they’re after the carrot, but the carrot is the worship.

Renny: The carrot is the worship, for sure. And so I’ll give you a testimony. I was in Billy and Cynthia Thompson’s church last year and we were doing a revival, and it was very interesting, Sid. This is so interesting. I can feel the Spirit as we’re talking. And I was supposed to be there just for three days. Three days turned to seven weeks. Let me tell you how it happened. The first night we were worshiping and it was a wonderful atmosphere. It was very good. They’re a praise and worship church in Boca Raton, Florida. The second night it went on and on, and on. But the first night, I had an open vision given to where I could see it. And in the worship, I saw Jacob’s ladder. Now you know as well as I do that Jacob’s ladder represents our worship. But I saw the ladder. It was bright and it was glistening. It just radiated the Light of God. And it came at a certain point in the service. And I saw the people of God begin to go up it, go up it, go up it. And I said, well praise the Lord. And the second night again, in the middle of the praise of worship, just as it was about to go into worship, I noticed the ladder would appear again, and it went up. And by the third night, let me tell you what God did. The third night the ladder appeared again. But this time the ladder was empty.

Sid: What does that mean?

Renny: I’m going to tell you. [laugh] I said, “Lord, why is it empty?” And He said, “Because from this point on the service doesn’t begin in the Earth. Your service, your worship begins in Heaven.” And I knew that there was longevity to that meeting because we had broken the flesh barrier.

Sid: And when you break the flesh barrier what happened in that meeting?

Renny: Time doesn’t matter. Matter doesn’t matter. Time doesn’t matter. That’s why I say when the Glory of God falls the laws of physics don’t work. They’re temporarily suspended because you’re not conscious of time. You’re conscious of eternity. You’re aware of His presence. You’re aware of His Glory. He becomes more real to you than your situation, and when you really see Him and you have a revelation of Him in your worship you don’t look at things the way you see them. You see them from Heaven’s perspective and you’re so caught up on Him. You don’t have time to think of your problem. When we come to that point, that’s when miracles happen. That’s when eyeballs open. That’s when cripples walk. That’s when the blind see. The problem is today in church is that we cut off the worship before we get to that point. And so what happens when that happens is this, is that because the people didn’t fully get that…

Sid: Wait a second now. Most people complain if the worship is too long.

Renny: Because they don’t understand what the worship is for. See for example, I believe…

Sid: Finish my sentence.

Renny: Sure.

Sid: The worship is for… The worship is for, finish the sentence.

Renny: The worship is for Him, not us. The worship is, there’s two things what just came to my spirit as you were saying. One, the worship is for Him. You know what I mean? Really and truly. But if the worship hasn’t reached that point yet, nothing will happen. And so what’s happening today is this, is that God’s people have come in, but we’ve cut it off. And so we don’t let it flow. And so we miss the power or God. I know that when that happens in the church, nine times out of ten if they’re looking for miracles it’s not going to come that way. So what will happen is a person who’s really experienced will take the mike and will begin to worship to bring that atmosphere back because the secret of it is, is that the revelation comes out of the atmosphere. It comes out of the realm of worship. Any preacher would know this who’s listening right now would relate to this. When the service is really high and the Glory of God is present, you can go up there with your notes and there’s nothing wrong with notes, you know. Fine. Okay. Well you know what happens? When the Glory of God comes, it’s a different story because you’re not preaching out of the atmosphere. You’re not preaching out of movement. Now the problem is that we’re trying to speak on something that’s already expired because the revelation is what God is giving you, is the revelation of that moment. And so what the Lord gives you in that moment, that’s what you being to say and that’s what God begins to do.

Sid: Let me take you back to that meeting in Boca Raton where the Jacob’s ladder was and you broke through.

Renny: We broke through.

Sid: What type of miracles occurred?

Renny: All kinds of miracles. I mean, we can take it to half a second, But I tell you, the one that stands out in my mind. We were worshiping for hours. I mean, it was normal. I must say this, and I feel I need to say this for a lot of people who are watching, particularly a lot of pastors who are uncomfortable with this, because some of us are uncomfortable with long worship, and I feel I need to say this here. Ministers, hear me very clearly, there are some times, because of the atmosphere of the church, it takes that level of praise and worship to break down the ground, you know, to break up the atmosphere. So sometimes, that’s why when they’re preaching, the atmosphere is still harmed because you’re looking for your work to do what the people’s praise and worship should have done. So when the people are really praising and worshiping it makes it easier to preach because the atmosphere is there for it. And so now, in Boca Raton what was so interesting about it was, was that the worship just flowed and miracles began to happen.

Sid: What was that one miracle?

Renny: The one miracle? A woman was just worshiping and she had cancer. She had cancer. She had cancer. She had some spots on her lungs. She was worshiping. Just worshiping the Lord. She forgot she had it. That’s what I teach. You lose sight of yourself. You know what happened? She went back to the doctor two days later. This is documented. She went back two days later. They couldn’t find it. It had vanished. Cancer vanished.

Sid: What would happen? Cancer vanished. Let me tell you something. When you’re going after God with all of your heart, there is nothing impossible. Renny, I want you to lead us in worship, just as you do in a congregation, and let’s see what God’s going to do when we come back.

Renny: Sure. Sure….

Sid: Don’t go away.