Sid: You know what’s going on Mishpochah? I have Kevin Dedmon on the phone and I said, “Let’s talk about the keys of supernatural joy and my engineer is laughing so much that I can’t figure out what’s going on.
Sid: But anyway I’m not going to give my standard introduction, this is Sid Roth and I’m speaking to Kevin Dedmon and Kevin, you teach on joy in a way that I’ve never seen before. I’ve seen supernatural joy, but you teach way beyond supernatural joy. You show people how to get into joy even if everything in their life is exploding the wrong way!
Kevin: Ha-ha, that’s right.
Sid: Teach us a little bit about joy.
Kevin: Well, for me joy starts in God’s presence, in His presence is fullness of joy and so for me whenever the Holy Spirit is present joy is just the outcome of that. When the angel came to announce Jesus’ birth he said, “Hey I’ve got good news of great joy!” Isaiah 61 verses 3 & 7 “The promise that the Messiah would come with was joy, the oil of gladness, everlasting joy.” When Jesus came in contact with John the Baptist while Jesus was in Mary’s womb and John the Baptist was in Elizabeth’s womb and as soon as they came in contact with each other “John leapt for joy in Elizabeth’s womb and actually in the Greek that word is skirtao which actually means John threw a party in Elizabeth’s womb. Everywhere Jesus went he brought joy, he had Joy continual joy, in fact in Luke in Chapter 6:21 Jesus promised this He said, “Happy are those that weep now before the Kingdom comes for they will laugh.” And of course in Psalm 2:4 we’re taught that He who is in the Heavens laughs, He who is enthroned in the Heavens laughs and that’s God laughing, it wasn’t like He laughed one time and said, “Okay that is good enough for eternity.” No, He continually laughs and the context there is that He looks at the strategies and the plots and the ploys of the devil of the enemy and His response is ha-ha-ha-ha and He laughs. And so for me I’ve just seen how that laughter not only brings the Kingdom, but it brings breakthrough in peoples’ lives and I see supernatural miracles happening as people laugh. It’s the prescription of Heaven; it’s the medicine of Heaven.
Sid: Well what, do you recommend that people just laugh because of the goodness of God in their life? The fact that their born again, the fact that they’re going to be in Heaven, the fact that they can experience God’s presence and His healing miracles. That they can just laugh as a matter of their will?
Kevin: Well, you know that everything we do in the Kingdom is a matter of choice, right? We have the fruit of self control like David in Psalm 103, He said, “Saul, you will bless the Lord,” I know you don’t feel like it, you know and that’s my interpretation. You don’t feel like it, but you are going to do it because I’m controlling you. And that’s the self control fruit that we have in our lives, we can choose to take advantage of any of the resources of Heaven. Like for example, forgiveness is a choice that we make and we must choose as Christians to forgive when we’ve been offended; it doesn’t feel right to forgive at first, because you really believe that they deserve death or justice from Heaven. But even if you don’t feel like forgiving its right to forgive so we make a choice by faith to do what’s right according to the Kingdom. And so you know we learn to serve, we learn to love even when we don’t feel like it. And so a lot of people when I say, “Listen you know you need to make a choice to laugh in your in your life.” And their response is, “Well, I don’t feel like laughing.” Well, do what you tell everybody else to do, we don’t live by feelings we live by faith. Everything in the Kingdom we do is a matter of faith; we love by faith, we forgive by faith, we serve by faith, we give by faith. And when you begin to give it get’s measured back to you that which you have given away. And we do that through choice, through our self control.
Sid: Give me an example of where laughter releases the healing of God; for instance how about the woman that was in kidney failure.
Kevin: Oh yes, this was a woman who was brought to me at the end of a healing conference that I was doing. Actually it was the first night I was there, was at the end of the meeting they brought her up to me and I asked her what she wanted and she said, “Well, I really would like to be healed, but I don’t think I can be.” I asked, “Why not?” And she said, “Well, I’ve had kidney failure for the last few years and for the last three months I haven’t been able to take care of my two teenage daughters and my husband because I’ve been bed ridden because of this kidney failure.” And she looked like she was sixty years old, she was only like thirty-eight years old I found out later and she said, “I finally succumbed and went down and I put my name on the list for a kidney transplant and my relatives who are elders at another church they told me I have now lost all possibility of ever being healed because of my lack of faith by putting my name on the kidney transplant list.” And I looked at her and I said, “No way! Your faith is standing right here right now, and in fact I see God smile all over you. More than that, He’s actually dancing around you and He’s singing and He’s rejoicing over you; more than that He’s laughing over you!” And just at that moment I put my hand on her head and she began to laugh and I began to laugh just like gut splitting laughter and after about three minutes she says “I’m on fire, I’m on fire; fan me off, fan me off.” And her husband’s behind her fanning her off and with this going on and we’re laughing and she’s saying fan me off, for about another five minutes or so. And finally she said, “It’s in my feet, it’s in my feet, fan me off,” and her husband’s on the floor fanning off her feet. And then she, now she had come up with the help of two other ushers and her husband, she couldn’t hardly even stand up, she couldn’t sit down into her chair on her own without help, let alone get up out of a chair. She was just totally debilitated from this kidney failure that she had. She jumps up and does this like Michael Jordan meets Bruce Lee kick up in the air and starts running around me saying, “I’m healed, I’m healed, I’m healed. And sure enough she goes back to the Kidney Transplant Center the next Monday, the doctors come in and they can’t figure out why she’s already got a kidney, a brand new kidney and they didn’t do a transplant. God gave her a brand new kidney as we just laughed and that was an amazing…
Sid: I love the stories you have about creative miracles, tell me about that person that had just a nub for a thumb.
Kevin: Oh yeah, that was amazing! This guy comes up to me after a meeting and he asks, “Well, hey can you go after a creative miracle?” And I just responded, “Well sure, why not?” And so he holds up his left hand and his left thumb is missing he had cut it off with a skill saw so that you know all that was left was a little nub over his knuckle. He was missing the other knuckle and his thumb nail obviously, he had no thumb. And so I just grabbed on to this nub and just started laughing and because it was impossible, it’s like when Abraham was told, “Hey you are are going to be a father of a nation,” and he’s way beyond his years to have children. His response is “Ha-ha-ha, yeah” and Sarah, the same thing and God even says, “Hey Sarah, you were laughing, weren’t you,” and she says, “No, I wasn’t,” and He says “Yeah, you were.” And you know I believe they were actually in the hall of faith in Hebrews 11 because they laughed. In fact they even named their son, Laughter. And I think laughter is just one of those conduits of the Kingdom; it’s the lubricant of the Kingdom. The Kingdom comes through laughter and in His presence is fullness of joy.
Sid: The name Isaac means laughter.
Kevin: Yes, Isaac means laughter. And so I grabbed on to this man’s nub and I just started laughing and I laughed for about three minutes, let go of it and we’re both looking at his hand like, “Was that the right hand? Like the left hand, is that the right hand?” And we’re stunned because the thumb had fully grown out; the guy’s looking at it and he’s looking both at his left and his right thumb and he realizes that he’s got a brand new thumb. He’s like jumping up and down and you know holding his thumb out. “I’ve got a brand new thumb, I’ve got a brand new thumb,” but he was missing his thumb nail. So I called three of our team over and these are students at the School of Supernatural Ministry here at the Bethel Church in Redding, California. And we teach our students that they can do anything and so anything that Jesus asked ask to do and so I said, “Okay now give him a new thumb nail.” So they did what any good revivalist would do and they grabbed on to his thumb that had now fully grown out and they just started laughing. And they laughed over him for three minutes and then the white part of the thumb nail started, it had grown out as though the rest of it now would grow naturally and sure enough it has. I heard from the pastor recently that this guy is now going all through his county showing everybody his brand new thumb and his brand new grown out thumb nail that he has to trim regularly.
Sid: I think it’s so amazing some of the keys that God has shown you for healing.
Sid: Someone that walks in the same power and I know that this is hard to believe, but it’s in the Bible, the Messiah said, “You will do the same things I have done and even greater.” And that’s what God is up to. And I have a prototype of what God is up to, a young man by the name of Chad Dedmon. Last week I interviewed his father, Kevin who has a passion that everyone be equipped to walk in the miraculous. And Chad as we were going off the air yesterday I started moving in what the Bible calls Words of Knowledge. People if they will just move the part of their body that is being addressed by a Word of Knowledge they will walk right into their miracle and it’s a little bit easier for them because God’s actually calling them by name. And you said that as I was sharing about peoples backs being healed, and spine cracking into place and the thumb that’s out of joint it’s coming into place that God was speaking to you about some things.
Chad: Yeah, there is just a real Spirit of just Words of Knowledge coming and flowing in and there is a real healing anointing right now. And there’s somebody here that you hurt your left ankle playing basketball and the Lord’s touching that. Also there’s a man named Joe or Joseph and you were in a car accident and you have pain from your neck all the way down your back and God’s touching that right now. And then there’s somebody with arthritis, I think you have a blue shirt on and you have arthritis that’s really in your fingers and in your hands and God’s touching that right now.
Sid: And there’s someone that has it in their knees and their being totally healed in their knees.
Chad: Yeah, in the Name of Jesus.
Sid: Now, let me ask you a question because this doesn’t happen to me, I get Words of Knowledge but I usually don’t get the colors of the shirt. Did you see something; did you just sense it, what’s going on with you?
Chad: Yeah, there’s many ways that God will download Word’s of Knowledge to me, and sometimes it’s in a vision, sometimes it’s a small still voice, sometimes I’ll feel a Word of Knowledge, sometimes my knee might start tingling and I know okay. Or I might even have pain in a certain body part, okay I didn’t have pain there before, God is speaking to me. And so sometimes when I’m in a meeting I will actually see the condition, for example I might see spine over someone’s head and I say, “God’s healing your spine right now.”
Sid: You actually see the words spine?
Chad: Actually there’s two different ways, sometimes I’ll see a healing angel over someone and the healing angel will speak. And a lot of time when angels or God speaks to me the words come out of their mouth, almost like a snip it, almost like a cartoon. But sometimes I will see an actual spine over someone or a body part over someone.
Sid: Now when you see, let’s say a healing angel do you kind of sense that angel’s there or do you literally see that angel?
Chad: Normally I see the angel, now see our bodies are called to discern the presence of God and I’ve kind of, you know you learn that as you go on, as you practice the gift, as you practice you know being in the anointing.
Sid: So these gifts have to be developed?
Chad: Yeah, and for example I’ll know there’s a healing angel in the room when I feel a cool wind on the back of my neck, and so that’s not normal for everyone, but God will actually touch your body to get you to recognize what He’s doing in the room or in the atmosphere.
Sid: Well, tell me you and your wife went around the world fourteen months. Your wife is a Messianic Jewish believer and tell me about the blind person in Fiji.
Chad: Yeah, we prayed for a lady and she was blind and the Lord opened up her eyes, it was amazing, but was amazingly supernatural about this one was that we prayed for her and her eyes opened up and I began to interview her. She was completely blind and when I asked her her name, her name was Momma Ida and one of my Spiritual Moms is Heidi Baker and I talked to her just hours before this and see she had a breakthrough where she would have authority over blind eyes. And for two years she prayed and she didn’t see any breakthrough but the first lady that she prayed for whose eyes opened up after two years of contending for breakthrough and she asked her her name and her name was Momma Ida. And the first five people that she prayed for with blind eyes that opened up their names were Momma Ida. And so here I am just talking to Heidi Baker, my Spiritual Mom just hours before and I prayed for this lady who’s blind and her name was Momma Ida. And we did not meet we were in Fuji for a month and we did not meet another Heidi let alone Momma Ida who that’s who Heidi Baker, she’s called that in Mozambique.
Sid: Well, that was kind of a sign for you.
Chad: It was a sign, yeah.
Sid: Now tell me about when you when you went to Paris, about that Moslem.
Chad: Awe, yes, my wife was very excited about going to Paris and I’m really excited about Paris because I’ve heard that it was a pastor’s grave yard, that you can’t preach the gospel there, it’s one of the hardest places. And I love going to hard places because I like to see giant’s fall. I like to go into the places where the gospel and the supernatural begin to open up the heavens over a region. And so I went into Paris to preach at a church and I begin to speak on the Father’s love and so I invited people to just stand up if they want to receive and experience supernaturally the Father’s love. And this Muslim man that had surgery a week earlier, he had liver cancer and they opened him up to do surgery to remove the cancer and they found that it spread throughout his whole body and so they had to staple him back together.
Sid: How long did he have to live?
Chad: They gave him two weeks left to live. And so this was a week later so he had a week left and his wife was a believer and so she brought him to church. And so he stood up, I did not know what was going on and I just released the tangiblepresence of the Father and God touched him.
Sid: Now, what do you mean you released the tangible presence of the Father, explain what you mean?
Chad: Yeah, I prayed for an impartation of the Father’s love to come into the room and to begin to touch people’s hearts; the encounter that I had where I got baptized with the Father’s love, now this is available for everyone.
Sid: Is it available, first of all, “What happened to this man that had two weeks to live?”
Chad: Well, he was receiving the Father’s love, no one touching him, the staples just bust open. He was pretty nervous, you know the cancer was coming out of his stomach the staples came undone; the cancer was coming. See revival is messy and so he runs into the bathroom trying to fix himself up; he puts on his jacket; he comes to me and it was amazing morning of ministry where people were getting healed just left and right and people were actually tearing my shirt. It was very kind of crazy; it was kind of like a healing riot and so I didn’t have much time, he didn’t tell me he had cancer he just hey, “Excuse me I have staples in my stomach and it came undone, would you please pray for me?” So I prayed for him and all the pain left, but still stuff were coming, it was coming out. And so we went to the hospital and they did two different tests on him and they came back, these doctors that said a week earlier that “Medically we cannot do anything for you, you just go make peace with your family you have two weeks left to live.” The same doctors that had run two different tests say “The cancer is dead and is leaving, is jumping out of your body literally.”
Sid: You know what I believe? I believe that if you release the “Father’s Love” right now for those that are listening that that type of miraculous encounter and impartation of the love of God. Get ready to receive!”
Chad: And this man received the Father’s love, the Father healed him because he loved them and he encountered the Father’s love where he became a follower of Jesus.
Sid: This Muslim man.
Chad: This Muslim man, he encountered the love of Jesus and he is still in this church.
Sid: Chad, our time is slipping away, pray for an impartation for the Father’s love of those that are listening.
Chad: I pray for a baptism of Your love, as Jesus needed the love of the Father, as Jesus needed to hear Your voice, I pray Lord that Your voice would be released. That you would begin to say to Your Sons and Daughters that You would release a Spirit of Adoption that would not only heal physical bodies but it would heal our hearts that we would know that we’re Sons and Daughters of the King of Glory. And so Lord release Your love today. Amen.
Sid: I don’t know about anyone else, but I am basking in the love of God, what do you recommend for someone that is sensing that love right now, what should they be doing?
Chad: Oh, they should be receiving and also they should keep on getting material, you know keep on talking to people that are experiencing the Fathers’ Love.
Sid: What kind of feedback are you getting on your Father’s new book, “Unlocking Heaven,” and Chad’s Father is Kevin Dedmon.
Chad: This is an amazing book that gives you tools and gives you keys to unlock Heaven, to unlock God’s presence and to begin to understand what you’ve been given freely through what Jesus did. That we’ve been given every spiritual blessing; that we have been called to move in the supernatural naturally and as a lifestyle not just as an event, but as a lifestyle. And this book gives you incredible keys to have an everyday encounter with the King of Glory.
Sid: Now, you move in very outstanding miracles; your Dad did a good job in mentoring you… When I heard that Kevin had a series of visions understanding the supernatural and as he explained the visions there was such a presence of God on these visions that then he would blow the Spirit of God as a prophetic act that was within him on the people that are listening…Do you ever blow on people for a release of the miraculous?
Chad: Yeah, actually yes, we’ve seen people get healed where you just breathe on them and I’ve been with my Dad, I’ve learned this from my Dad. And I’ve been with my Dad, I’ve learned this from my Dad, you know it’s great being a son and we would breathe over people and when you feel the anointing. When you feel the Holy Spirit directing you that way, we have seen cancer healed, we’ve seen arthritis healed, we’ve seen people come out of comas when we breathed on them. And actually people on the phone, there was a lady that was in the hospital with the coma, we breathed on the phone and she came back out of her coma.
Sid: My guest John Paul Jackson I’m speaking to him about what he has been seeing for a number of years of what is actually happening right now in America and he’s been shown a window over the next ten years. He calls this DVD were making available “The Coming Perfect Storm” and it’s because it’s going to hit in five different areas and some parts of the US or the world will have all five at say if ten is the strongest, up to ten and some will have combinations of them. And in fact I’m going to see if I can tell us some of the places in the US he sees these things coming, but the arenas that will be hit will be geophysical, war, politics, religion, economics. We were talking yesterday on the geophysical and there’s some amazing things that you’ve seen for instance you’ve seen volcanoes erupting in the USA. What did you see John Paul Jackson?
John Paul: I saw a volcano erupting kind of like Mt. Saint Helens did a number of years ago, but I saw a larger volcano erupting in the United States in the North West part of the United States. It looked like Mt. Hood, but I, because mountains in visions you get the quick glimpses of them and you have them from a certain angle, I can’t, I can’t I didn’t hear the name Mt. Hood, but it looked like Mt. Hood to me. And I saw, so I saw a volcano erupting in the North West part of the United States. If I can let me just say this, when sin enters in to a greater degree, when sin is not abated, when sin is seen as good and good is seen as sin the earth everything around mankind begins to react; the things that God made good in the very beginning now fight against each other. You have plates that war against each other, you have magma that is below the surface that is seeking to come to the surface; everything becomes at odds; all of creation begins to groan. That’s what Paul was referring to in Roman’s 8, “All of creation begins to groan for the manifestation of the sons of God or the people who know their God in a deeply intimate way.” Because when people that know God show up on the scene, then everything peace begins to come back into all of creation it comes back into the jet streams; it comes back into the fowls of the air; it comes back to the plates of the earth. So what is happening now is that the lukewarm nature at best most of the church in the United States and I know that there are exceptional churches out there. But not only in the United States elsewhere it’s causing, it’s allowing this fighting or warring against each other, against the plates of the earth. Like man is warring against man the plates of the earth begin to war against each other and when that happens then magma, magma come to the surface. And so the Northwest part of the United States is going to be, there is going to be a mountain, a volcano that comes back to life. Also in the Northwest part of the United States and in Southwestern Canada there’s going to be a greater frequency of earthquakes with a very strong earthquake over seven that will be much more destructive than people think. And there’s going to be another earthquake along the Mississippi and I know that I’ve seen around the Cape Girardeau area.
Sid: What about hurricanes?
John Paul: Wow, well I saw a hurricane that was over five hundred miles wide, it was huge.
Sid: Five hundred miles wide!
John Paul: Five hundred miles, it covered Five hundred miles.
Sid: Did you see which coast?
John Paul: No, I just saw the coastline; it was hard to see through the hurricane as to the shape of United States for which it hit, but it had huge winds over 180 miles an hour, I guess it would have been classified as a F5 hurricane and the title surge went over a hundred miles inland.
Sid: What about tornadoes?
John Paul: I saw what’s coming is tornadoes that are so strong that cars became like missiles flying through the air and they would literally hit buildings and they would explode by the gasoline and the fuel tank I’m guessing. Again because I try not to say what I haven’t specifically heard, but I can’t explain why the car would explode unless there was gasoline in the tank and something happened when the car hit the building. But they became like missiles that were flying through the air because the speed of the tornado was so fast that it hurled cars, it hurled refrigerators, it hurled different things through the air and they became like horizontal missiles flying through the sky.
Sid: Let’s switch gears a little bit and talk a bit about politics. This is a very disturbing thing, I can see it happening. You urged intense prayer for President Obama, why?
John Paul: If the church doesn’t pray for President Obama, because the Bible commands us to pray for all civil authorities that are over us that we might live in peace. What I saw was as an angel kind a guided tour, if don’t pray for President Obama then their will be an attempt upon his life and that attempt will loose race riots in this nation at levels never never seen before. I was in high school in the race riots of the ‘60s. In Detroit and New York and LA and the other areas…
Sid: In other words, we are not going to know that it is Islam that is arranging the assignation.
John Paul: Right.
Sid: And will think it’s a white Supremes group or something like that.
John Paul: And that’s what happens, the issue of Islam doing the assignation or trying for the assignation and making it look like it’s a White Supremes, setting a trail of White Supremacy, but it really wouldn’t be a White Supremes who did it.
Sid: And do you have any indication as to whether this will be during the first term if this happens or the second term?
John Paul: I don’t have any indication; my opinion is that it would happen during the first term.
Sid: Sticking with politics, what else has God shown you?
John Paul: Well, there’s going to become even more corruption in the politics in the United States, unbelievable corruption and self gain is going to be exposed in both the Congress and the Senate of the United States; and people are going to be left reeling and wondering who can they trust? And it’s almost as if there is, what I saw was almost like a hopelessness; like who is the least corrupt that we can elect verses who is the one without corruption.
Sid: You know it almost seems to me as I watch what’s going on in the news, it is not a democrat or a republican issue it’s the system has broken down.
John Paul: Yeah, it is the system and the system has broken down because godliness hasn’t reigned, righteousness hasn’t reigned; injustice as Isaiah 59 says, “Injustice has failed and it’s fallen into the streets for no one, no one is crying out for justice. We’ve almost accepted what’s going on as just the way it is.
Sid: What has God shown you about our Social Security System?
John Paul: Oh! My goodness, there is nothing wrong with the Social Security System that 40,000 babies who have been aborted, if they had lived wouldn’t have the solution to. If you had, 40,000, I mean 40 million; if you had all the children that would be taxpaying age right now since Roe verses Wade Act was implemented, you would have you would have plenty of funds in the coffers in order to take care of the Social Security System. But what happens is when you now have children that have been aborted; they’re not paying Social Security into it you have a huge bowl just moving through the system, but no financial back up. So we are going to get what we want, but we are not going to want the results of what we wanted.
Sid: And you also talk about because of our economy we won’t be helping the world as we always have, we’ll be bringing our troops home and what affect will this have on Islam?
John Paul: Well, what happens, well I saw because of the great financial difficulty that America has and the inflation that is coming our way that is far more…
Sid: Excuse me; you do see a big inflation?
John Paul: Major inflation is coming our way.
Sid: And that’s why you talked about gold as an investment.
John Paul: Right.
Sid: But won’t gold be confiscated?
John Paul: It depends on the type you have, if its bouillon there will be some of that will eventually happen, but gold numismatic coins will be a whole different story. And there was a trade that I saw trading going on with numismatic coins or gold coins and silver coins around the nation and even internationally. But this issue of inflation that’s coming is going to catch people really by surprise.
Sid: I don’t see how it can catch us by surprise, all were doing is seems, every time I turn on the news is printing more white paper with green ink with nothing behind it.
John Paul: Well, the problem is that you might be aware of what that means, but the most vast majority of the people it’s almost like they live in denial, as long as it looks okay then its okay. But they don’t even have an understanding that there is a huge fire, and economic fire coming our way that is going to cause major problems and food problems. Food shortages or not just food shortages because that is a geophysical issue, but it’s going to cause food panics where there will have to have people riding guard on food deliver trucks to grocery stores.
Sid: Now, I know you’re talking God shown you anywhere from today to a ten year window, but when do you think things will get bad economically in the United States?
John Paul: 2011 is going to be really bad, and the end of 2009 we’re going to think it’s bad, but as we go into 2010 it gets worse, there is this feeling, there is going to be this feeling like, well it couldn’t get any worse, but it will and it’s going to get worse in stages. There are at least four more stages of severity, economic severity that we will be experiencing that we don’t even know we are going to experience right now.
Sid: We want everyone everywhere filled with the Holy Spirit, my guest Patricia King, we’re featuring this week her eighteen CDs from “The Glory School” a one week training that she takes all the steps and stages of being able to walk in the Supernatural. Now, Patricia the Holy Spirit has been showing you that there are going to be literally waves of shaking to this country and really to the world; and if there’s ever been a time to walk in the fullness of the supernatural it’s now! What is God showing you?
Patricia: Well, the Bible says that anything that can be shaken will be shaken and we are in a season right now Sid, where the shakings have already begun, I believe that we are going to see waves and waves of them. And of course as waves of function even in the natural, you will see a wave come upon the shore and then they pull back before the next one comes. And so I believe that we are going to see like a wave of shaking that will actually cause a response in some of fear or apprehension and that and when it will pull back and it will look like things are getting better and then another wave will come. And were going to see waves and waves of shakings, but those waves are an opportunity for the people of God to draw closer into the Lord and to alignment to Him, because as those waves of shaking take place in the world and it goes from shaking to shaking in the world we have an opportunity to go from glory to glory in the Kingdom.
Sid: Well, that’s why anytime is a good time to understand all that’s given to us by God and the Word of God and the gifts of the Spirit and hearing God’s voice and being translated, moving in the prophetic and moving in healing and miracles and experiencing His Glory and being caught up into Heaven, it’s always a good time for that. But it’s like mandatory with the waves of shaking that are coming.
Patricia: Yes, we’re either going to live in the world or in the Kingdom of God. There is a separation coming that is going to separate the sheep from the goats, the wheat from the tares, the truth from the error; so we must align as Kingdom People in this hour. Those that are “Rise and shine because our light has come and the Glory of the Lord has risen upon us.” And this is the people that we are, this is who we are in God and it’s time to walk that out and live it out as never before.
Sid: Now, as I was explaining on yesterday’s broadcast there are many supernatural phenomena going on when you give these Glory Schools or when you speak. But some of them are fascinating and I haven’t really heard of them before, for instance the fragrance of fire, explain that.
Patricia: Yeah, we’ve had many different fragrances in meetings where the presence of the Lord is there, sometimes he’ll release some fragrances. And the first time the very first time that we actually smelled the fragrance of fire in a supernatural way; we were in a prayer meeting praying for a conference we were hosting called “Wing and Fire.” So were praying into this meeting when all of a sudden in our home it actually smelled like the house was on fire; it smelled like fresh fire. So I ran around the house to see if there was something burning and there was nothing. I came back down into the living room to find a fire engine going down our street, so I thought that well maybe there’s a fire next door or something. So I ran out the front door, the fire engine was parked out just at the neighbor’s house next to us and I said, “Is there a fire in the neighborhood?” And their running around, the fire department is. And they said that we got a call that there was a fire on Bajer but we can’t find one. And all of a sudden, it dawned on me, just a minute, this is not a natural fire, were praying for wind and fire conference, this is a manifestation of the Spirit. We went back into the room, we started praying, the fire smell intensified and then the following week when we stepped in the meetings, it was suppose to be a five day meeting, it turned into twenty-one days of revival. And on the very first night the fire smell came into the meeting place and filled the whole house. In that twenty-one days Sid, we had the most phenomenal move of the Spirit of God night after night after night where people were saved; they were filled with the Spirit; they were healed; there were manifestations of laughter; the supernatural; angels showed up people actually saw them, felt them; it was an amazing time. And it was a little prophetic sign from the Lord that fragrance of fire was a prophetic sign of the Lord for what He was about to do. The fires of revival literally ignited our city at that time.
Sid: Patricia, I know you have hopes for what people will accomplish when they attend your Glory School, I know you’ve had experiences of all the changed lives of the people that have attended your Glory School; but what has God told you about those that attend the Glory School?
Patricia: Well, Sid my main heart for the people of God is that they live on a foundation of the Word of God and are able to follow the Holy Spirit into where ever He would lead them because He always leads us according to truth, and according to Kingdom empowerment. And so when people attend the Glory School, when they get on that foundation of the Word, then they start to experience things that are normal, things that are supposed to be normal for Kingdom life. When we read the Bible we see that’s it a Bible that’s full of recordings of supernatural encounters of people and the great God that we serve; every page practically of the scriptures it testifies of this supernatural life with God. And that is for us today so that is my heart for everyone that attends the Glory School or listens to the CDs that they would encounter God in a supernatural way for their whole life. Not just an experience for itself but actually knowing the living God, standing on the covenant that we have been given in him and encountering Him on a daily basis.
Sid:And of course, it is a one week school and many of you can go, but many can’t how would you like to take this school at your convenience rather than some of things that you’ve been watching on television and filling yourself with, how would you like to for the next eighteen nights have one new CD eighteen CDs on subjects such as we’re talking about. Why don’t you just briefly tell me some of the subjects that are covered in the Glory School.
Patricia: Well, we start out the cross as being the entrance way into Heavenly Glory; How to follow Holy Spirit; how to listen to His voice; How to have access in the Third Heaven and Revelatory Realms; How to Interact with the Angelic Realm; How to Discern the different aspects of the Manifest Glory of God and His Fire; Baptism and Fair; oh there’s so much…
Sid: Well, why don’t we just stop at that one for a moment; what is Baptism of Fire?
Patricia: Well, Jesus said in Matthew 3, or John the Baptist actually prophesied concerning Jesus that He would come with a Baptism with a Spirit and with Fire. So there is two that he mentions there; the Baptism with the Spirit and with fire; and so on the day of Pentecost we see the Baptism with the Spirit and we see that there’s an appearance of tongues of fire on their head but that appearance resting on their head is not baptism because baptism is full emersion into the fire. The fire burns up the dross, the fire releases fresh passion, and zeal, the fire ignites us in the Lord’s love.
Sid: It sounds like that’s what happened to you on day one when you got saved!
Patricia: Yeah, there was a purging, an awesome purging and awesome purging by the Spirit of God on the day that I received Christ. And that fire, that baptism of fire is available to us today.
Sid: Now, Patricia one of the courses and there are eighteen different ones, is Understanding God’s Glory and you talk about the disciplines to experience God’s Glory would you tell us one?
Patricia: A lot of times when we posture ourself according to the Word of God, we’ll have more experience in the Glory. So for example if you took the discipline of mediating on who you are in Christ, who the Bible says you are and making decrees of who you are, then you’re going to come into alignment with that new creation that God has made you as a person who is brand new in Christ with all the nature of Christ within you then you can start to experience the Glory. Another discipline would be to wait on Holy Spirit, wait to hear His voice and then obey what He’s showing you to do. These are all different disinclines in the Glory.