Sid: We want everyone everywhere to have a fear of the Lord because if there’s a missing ingredient in Christian’s today it’s the fear of the Lord. There’s a misunderstanding of that term. There’s a misunderstanding of what happens if you do have it; there’s a misunderstanding if what happens if you don’t have it. I have a Pastor on the telephone right now Pastor Michael Cameneti. He’s Pastor of Canton Christian Fellowship in Canton, Ohio. He’s just written a book called “The Missing Ingredient to Success.” Michael what will happen if we do not have the fear of the Lord?
Michael: Sid if we don’t have the fear of the Lord; it’s very clear the Bible tells us there’s some things that will happen. First of all we’ll have a problem with sin; there is no doubt about it. We get desensitized to sin; and there are other things that happen like dishonesty. We read in Genesis about Abraham how he was able to be dishonest about his wife saying that it was his sister. Well, Abraham didn’t know God like we know God. He didn’t live in Him; wasn’t having the born again experience. But we understand that if even as a Christian we can begin to not fear God and then all of a sudden we fear man more than we do God. And that’s a dangerous thing; so we can get desensitized and have a life of sin that can lead us into some dangerous things. Or we can have unanswered prayer. And the Bible says in Proverbs 23:17 “Be thou in the fear of the Lord all day long.” And we gave a definition on one of the days on this about the fear of the Lord and I believe it’s a simple definition it simply means this. “It’s not a mere fear of His power; it’s not a mere fear of his righteous retribution, but it’s a wholesome dread of displeasing Him.” And all of us want to please God; I mean anyone who even if their fires not there; if they don’t even love God like they did when they were first born again. They can honestly say today “But I want to please God.” In order to please God we have to fear Him and in order to fear Him we’ll have to do something. And that’s simply this; we have to make an adjustment in our thought life. We have to make an adjustment on what we hear and what kind of things that we see and what we’re allowing in; we monitor if you would. The fear of the Lord Sid and I have a chapter on this and it becomes a limiter. We know that cars have limiters on them and they might not go to the full speed because they have a limiter. Or a laser; if someone has laser surgery for their eyes. There’s a limiter on that laser it could blast right through them; but there’s a limiter from doing what it could really do. Well, when we fear God there’s a limiter on life. And the limiter is I would not do the things that I would when I was in the world now because I’m fearing God. And it’s not because I’m afraid of Him; it’s not I’m afraid that He’s going to do something evil to me. But I fear Him and I want to please Him. But Sid better than that there are some things in the book that I’ve written that I think are very important for people. And that is simply this is there’s rewards to fearing the Lord. I sort of look at it this way and I even mention it in the book. God sort of does it as we do as parents you know. My kids are older and when they were younger I would tell my children when they were younger “If you do this there’s going to be a reward to it; but if you do this there’s also a discipline to it.” Well God did the same thing; what He put in His word Sid is simply this; if we’ll fear God there’s actually rewards to fearing Him. And I think that if people hear these rewards that they’ll say “Okay I want to fear God.” And the book explains exactly how to do that.
Sid: And I hear what you’re saying but for me as an individual I like the definition of I love God so much I don’t want to displease Him. It’s worth swallowing my pride if I’ve said something that’s an exaggeration to say you know “I’m sorry, that’s not what I really meant.” Because I don’t want to displease Him but then there are others you say who the reward is what attracts them.
Michael: Right, everyone lives on the different you know some people what’s going to attract some people is “I want to hear the rewards because they’re reward oriented because of at their job you know.” They feel like they get rewarded for being a good worker. Well, God rewards people and so let me just tell you some of them real quickly. Proverbs 10:27 says “The fear of the Lord prolongs days.” That means you live longer. And it actually says “The years of the wicked shall be shortened.” So I believe if we fear God we can live a long life on this earth. There’s nowhere in the Bible where God say “He wants us to die prematurely; He desires us to live long.”
Sid: But you know a lot of people live long but it’s not quality.
Michael: Definitely, and that’s the next one Sid. Number 2 is living a satisfied life. Proverbs go on and talks about if we fear God we’ll be satisfied in life. We’ll have prolonged days and satisfied. Well, satisfied means that you’re happy, you’re just not living on earth and miserable; but I’m satisfied. And when we come to the end of our days we’re satisfied. Just like people in the Bible were and so the fear of the Lord attends to life and will abide satisfied. That’s Proverbs 19:23. But Sid here’s one that I think everyone would be interested in this. We live in a society today where sickness is prevalent in the earth. Where people even Christian’s are dealing with sickness on and off in their lives. Malachi chapter 4 verse 2 says “But unto you that fear My Name shall the Son of Righteousness arise with healing in His wings.” I believe that it’s God’s will to heal people; I believe God wants people healed. But this is telling us that this is one of the rewards for fearing God. One of the rewards for fearing God that He will actually heal us. The Son of Righteousness is referring to Jesus and this is a promise in the Bible that if we will fear God. You know someone might be listening today Sid and say “Well, that’s Old Testament Old Covenant.” Well, the Bible says in 2nd Corinthians chapter 1:19 & 20 there it says “Every promise of God is yes and amen in Him.”
Sid: Not only that the only Bible the first church had was the Old Testament. A lot of people don’t realize that.
Michael: Very true because they did not have what we have today where they put the books together. And so…
Sid: Speaking of sickness; about 4 years ago you went for about months where you had difficulty walking. Would you briefly tell me about that?
Michael: Sure in our congregation I told this testimony to them many times. Being the Pastor of the church and I teach on healing; I teach on faith; I teach the Word at our church. And I got attacked with something; I can’t tell you exactly what it was because I don’t know that any doctor every found out. They thought I had MS and they were doing every test they could to examine me for MS. That one doctor literally said with my wife there in the room “That they believe I have MS and they were doing all the test for that.” And what happened Sid is something attacked me to the point that I couldn’t walk. There were times in fact I went to a baseball game with friends from the church one time and they were walking across the parking lot into the ballgame and I fell right on the ground. I told my wife “Go ahead with them and when this stops I’ll get up and I’ll meet you.” I had no idea what it was I’m an athletic person I like to work out; like to run. So this was you know a pretty devastating thing to me. And what ended up happening to make a long story short is I sought God. I said “Lord I know that You’re the healer and obviously on my end there’s something wrong on the reception end here.” See that’s judging yourself and that ties all back into what we’ve been talking about all week. I told the Lord “I know that I’m not perfect if I’ve done something to displease you; if I’ve done something to open a door up to the devil I want to know I want to get this right.” Well, nothing came up there; I didn’t have anything that the Lord said but I made sure that I judged myself and told God “If I’ve done anything forgive me.” And I started to seek the Lord and we had a guest minister in on a Sunday morning and he said “I don’t know why I’m preaching this today, this church hears all the time about healing and faith.” He said “If you believe that you receive your healing according to Mark 11:24 then you have it now so act like you’re healed.” And it just hit me that I’d not been doing that; everyday I’d start over again because my legs would go out you know all of a sudden I’d lose any ability to walk. And I thought I did something wrong. So I’d start all over again. “Father, I believe I receive my healing.” And I would just go through this ritual if you would. So one day I had to take my son somewhere I was in a mall parking lot. I spent some time with the Lord in prayer; worship God and I got out of that car and I told the Lord “I’m running and I believe I receive my healing.” I started running and I fell right on my face exactly what happened all the other times happened. I got up and said “Father I don’t believe this attack is from you and I believe I’m healed” and I took off running. And ever since that point Sid 3 months had gone by 4 months or something like that. After that one time of running right there I never have experienced the problem again. The doctors said “It was miraculous; I should have had some kind of bad thing happen to me in their view point should not have been able to walk.” But the Lord completely healed me and it was marvelous and I’m thankful for it.
Sid: Michael, you’ve been teaching on this subject on the fear of the Lord for a long time and you’ve just written your book on “The Missing Ingredient to Success.” Which is the fear of the Lord; what impact does it have on people when it dawns on them what their problem has been?
Michael: Well, when we taught this at our church; when we taught this at the Sunday morning services at our church I had person after person come through the greeting line when we were greeting them. Telling them I never even; they would tell me this “I never even knew Number 1 that this is in the Bible.” And Number 2, some that knew it was in the Bibles “I was not applying it to my life; I just did not get it I did not see it.” When they began to apply it people were healed, other people had deliverance’s come; other people had their marriages healed Sid. With all the marriage things that are going on in the world.
Sid: What about children?
Michael: Children would turn around; because what happens with children you know as well as I do that if they don’t have that solid family structure the marriage is not strong; there’s not a dad there. When lives begin to get turned around then the children automatically will be looking at the parents. We’ve had parents say “My children beg to come to church now; they can’t wait.”
Sid: Michael we’re out of time right now thank you so much for being my guest.
Sid: I’m telling you we’re about ready to see the greatest move of God’s Spirit on planet earth. We’re about ready to see what a Baptist Church hangs a little sign out and says “Revival Meeting”and that’s just a code word for an evangelist. I mean where God shows up there are going to be more souls saved in the next few years than all of history. But God wants you in shape physically. Now, I believe that God will heal all of your diseases, but I believe that many of us are tempting God and we’re eating bad stuff; we’re believing God to be healed. And in His mercy many of us get healed but then we continue eating the bad stuff and we get sick again. And we wonder “Why is this going on?” Well, I have Dr. Jordan Rubin on the telephone; he’s a Messianic Jew and I’m speaking to him at his offices in West Palm Beach, Florida. And you’re probably familiar with his book “The Maker’s Diet” because it was on the New York Bestsellers List for 16 weeks. Dr. Rubin has studied; I know that you have investigated all these different alternative things and vitamins and all these different cure-alls when you were fighting for your life in addition to your investigation Dr. Rubin?
Jordan: Well, I like many other health professionals got into this industry and this practice based upon my own person struggle with health. And I regain my health after trying everything under the sun by following a Biblically based health plan. Once I did I realized that my mission in life was to help other people particularly the children of God, change and transform they’re health one life at a time. In doing so I studied natural-pathic medicine which is a medical science that involves using medicine as a last resort. Not a first resort, we use everything from diet therapy; we learn about herbs and homeopathy we learn about body therapies, aroma therapy. It is a non-drug healing system that really is the original form of medicine. I went on to get a medical degree in natural-pathetic medicine and also earned my doctorate in nutrition and natural-therapies. My life though is not devoted to having a practice; my life is devoted to spreading the message of the good news of God’s health plan to the world. Not for the purpose of getting us healthy; but for the purpose of getting us healthy so that we can fulfill our mission in life so we can be around with lots of our friends for the blowing of the final trump when we will all spend eternity with Yeshua haMashiach. So that’s where I received my training; but the best training I ever received was from a relationship with God. When He allowed me to go through a life threatening illness; come out the other side a new creature that He rebuilt and set me apart for His good works. And that’s where I stand today and I tell you Sid it’s an exciting time to be alive and it’s an exciting time to share this part of the message to God’s people because it seems to be something that we’ve neglected for far too long.
Sid: Jordan, what do you think about the diets that are pure vegetarian; there are many people. There are many Christians that are on these diets.
Jordan: I think that a vegetarian diet especially if you’re eating more fruits and vegetables and less of the grains and other foods can be healthy for a very short period of time. But I believe something in our bodies desires and needs protein that only comes from animal food. I travel around the world and I see different people that are vegans, which means they only eat fruits, vegetables and anything that is not from an animal. And I see them and they don’t look healthy and they look really gaunt and they don’t have energy. Then I see people that follow a mixed Biblical diet which involves healthy animal foods, healthy animal products and eggs and wonderful protein foods much like “The Maker’s Diet” says. And I see a great level of health.
Sid: What do you think about the Atkins or the low carb?
Jordan: I think the low carb concept which addresses the overproduction of insulin is a very good step in the right direction. The problem is these diets acquiesce to modern taste; so they allow you to eat unclean animal foods; things like pork rinds and food bars that have a bunch of chemicals in them. They have neglected both criteria that I believe are important for food. Number 1 “Did God create it for food? And Number 2 “Is it in a form that is healthy for the body?” And if you look at most low carb diets they are not compatible with either of those two although there are some good principals to them. And Dr. Atkins was my doctor at one point. Barry Sears the author of “The Zone” was my nutritionist. I went to the best of the best but there was always something lacking. And what was lacking was the truth that we have learned in scripture that truly sets us free.
Sid: Okay, Jordan you were talking on yesterday’s broadcast when we ran out of time about milk. Milk is good but not in the form we get it; what did you mean?
Jordan: When we look at dairy products especially in the Bible and throughout history they were consumed in two ways. One straight from the animal; I man straight. I mean they milked and then they drank or they would culture the milk into what we know today as yogurt; or buttermilk or kefir which is a cultured dairy, or soft cheeses and hard cheeses. The reason they made cultured dairy products is because dairy is perishable and they needed to store it at room temperature and drag it around with them wherever they went. So they made cultured dairy; and today the only two forms of dairy I recommend are unpasteurized dairy that is medically certified. There are certification bodies to certify raw milk, or clean raw milk or cultured dairy products that may come from pasteurized milk but some of the helpful enzymes and beneficial micro-organisms have been returned.
Sid: Give me an example of one.
Jordan: Well, a cultured dairy product would be a yogurt; that you find that’s full fat, not low-fat or fat free. I’ve never seen a cow or goat produce fat free or low fat milk it comes out with the fat. Cultured plain yogurt or kefir which you can aid honey and wonderful things to. And you’ll find that at the health food store but many grocery stores are now carrying that. And that would be considered a healthy cultured dairy product.
Sid: Okay, what about soy, soy is so big now; what’s your spin on that?
Jordan: I believe that soy is something that can be consumed in small amounts in a form that was traditionally consumed which is fermented or cultured much like the dairy that I talked about. I’m talking about miso soup you can get at Japanese restaurants or you can make it at home. Tempeh which is a fermented soybean curd; tofu is pretty good too and also some other condiments such as natto, which is a fermented soy condiment and soy sauce. The problem is that we have taken soy beans which we used to export to Japan or feed to the pigs and we have decided that we can make everything out of it from a meat substitutes; to ice creams to wallpaper. The over consumption of soy protein in the form of cheeses, protein powders and…
Sid: Wait a second, I eat soy cheese; what’s wrong with that?
Jordan: Soy cheese is extremely processed. It takes a lot of processing to get soy to become cheese. And soy is very high in nutrient inhibitors.
Sid: Inhibitors? That’s not what it says on the wrapping.
Jordan: Well, would you buy it if it did?
Sid: Of course not. (Laughing)
Jordan: I know certain cookies that look beautiful when you take them out of the box but it doesn’t give the warnings on the box of those either.
Sid: What happens to someone that consumes these what did you call them inhibitors?
Jordan: Nutrient inhibitors are found in very large quantities of soy bean and grain.
Sid: So what does that do to people that eats them.
Jordan: It blocks your absorption of key minerals; it’s funny because our conversation Sid of calcium, magnesium, zinc and iron. It blocks their absorption. So many people are out there with osteoporosis and low absorption of minerals and other nutrients. It’s mainly because of the foods they are eating, and sometimes they’re eating them in the name of health. I’ll tell you that you can get plenty sick by eating foods from a health food store today.
Janie: You know I have found that too and also I found in your book was about nuts and also the grains and soaking them. I love nuts but I did something that you recommended and that was…
Sid: Now Janie, I go out and I buy those little 50 cent packets of salted peanuts every day.
Janie: We’re not letting you do that anymore. (Laughing)
Sid: Tell me what’s wrong with that Jordan?
Jordan: Well, interesting enough peanuts are not a nut they’re a legume.
Sid: So whats wrong with my legume, leg oom; how do you pronounce that? (Laughing)
Jordan: The thing is that there’s two good ways to eat nuts and seeds and getting them roasted and if it’s not roasted Sid in harmful oils and yours maybe depending on where you get them. Roasted nuts are more digestible than raw.
Sid: I get them at the convenience store that has gas stations that has these little plastic packets.
Jordan: Well, you might want to read the ingredients because most likely those type of convenient snack foods have the wrong oils and high in trans fatty acids and are very dangerous. And then they’re overly salted with a form of salt that’s not very healthy.Well I hate to give you the bad news but ask Janie how to make some soaked and dehydrated nuts and seeds they’ll taste just as good…
Sid: Janie, can I buy them? Can I buy them, do I have to soak them?
Janie: Well, we’ll give you some but I went to a party 2 weeks ago and a lady made a gigantic soaked raw nuts that everybody was flipping from them.
Sid: Jordan, can I buy these soaked nuts? I mean on the road they have these soft peanuts, is that what you’re talking about?
Jordan: No, but you can absolutely buy what I’m talking about. And that brings me to probably my favorite part of “The Maker’s Diet” book. People like you want to eat healthy and what they say “Why buy this there, and I don’t have time to prepare these things, I eat at restaurants what can I do? Well, there’s a resource guide in the back of “The Maker’s Diet” that’s shopping for optimum health. It has 268 companies that provide the best foods, snacks, skin care products, healthy air and water purifiers, exercise equipment supplements.
Sid: You know before Janie went on the diet herself she said “Sid can I borrow your book because I like the back part of the book because that’s the best place of sources.”
Janie: Right and it has great recipes too. So it’s got everything.
Sid: How did you accumulate all of these places?
Jordan: Well, I have been such a fan of the natural food industry, but I see time and time again people walk into a health food store for the first time and their either turned off or they’re totally absolutely overwhelmed. What do I eat soy cheese, goat cheese, cow cheese or no cheese? So I said, “You know what I need to make it easy for people; I need to give them application tools.” And that’s what this guide is it shows you everything you need to go to a heath food or a grocery store.
Sid: Jordan you sold me; I’ve got to take my book; I’ve got to read it….
Sid: My guest is red hot for the Messiah because he should be dead. He’s a Jewish believer and he prayed for wisdom; he prayed for healing. He had one of the worst cases of Crones disease; I mean I saw the before and after pictures it looks like he was in a concentration camp. As a result of his search in which he went to 70 different health practitioners in 7 different countries. He tried between 3 and 500 different type of nutritional supplements and massive amounts of natural health remedies. He found himself bound in a wheelchair; he found himself stop socializing with friends. He lived literally in a cloud of depression and wanted to commit suicide and then he met a man who said “Why don’t you just follow what God says.” He started reading the Bible figuring out what God… because there’s such a mixture out there of so many different things and he started reading the Bible and he found out that the Maker God has a diet for us and if we’ll follow that we don’t have to put up with all of these dread diseases. I have him on the phone; Dr. Jordan Rubin I’m speaking to him at his office at West Palm Beach, Florida. In your opinion why are we having such problems with cancer and heart disease and Alzheimer’s… I mean it’s epidemic now.
Jordan: Well, I believe the reason is that we have broken and departed from the way that we should be taking care of the body. And that starts with God’s word the Bible follows His people through history and is now proved by science. I think health, especially nutrition boils down to two things. Get good things, good nutrients into yourself and get waste products out of your body. It’s very simple you need to get the good in and get the bad out. We have that completely mixed up and I believe that there is not one reason why we have cancer, heart disease, diabetes at epidemic proportion; it’s the combination of living a wrong lifestyle. A lifestyle built on convenience and taste and really what is completely unhealthy and that’s why we are suffering from disease. But it’s more than that. What about the people that aren’t sick that consider themselves well? But the definition of well is health is the absence of disease; I don’t believe that. I don’t believe that we should just survive we should thrive; and that’s what “The Maker’s Diet” is about.
Sid: Okay, I want you to give me an example of what someone on the makers diet would eat for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
Jordan: Well, I’ll give you an example off of the top of my head of what I consider Phrase 3 because “The Maker’s Diet” is in 3 phrases. Each one is a little bit easier, the first phase of two weeks can be pretty difficult it’s a departure from what people are used to. Second phase gets a little easier and the Third phase which I consider the lifestyle program is what I’ll share with you right now. For example, someone may have 2 or 3 eggs in the morning, cooked in olive oil or butter. I recommend eggs that are from healthy chickens; so you look for free-range organic high Omega 3. We have lots of recipes from french toast to pancakes to waffles. But again we’re going to use whole grain flour that is what God created in a form He created it in. We’ll use butter or honey on top of it; some fruit on the side. Maybe some cottage cheese preferably from organic milk. That could be a breakfast and of course it’s a big breakfast.
Sid: That’s sounds pretty delicious to me I could go for that.
Jordan: I’m actually hungry right now.
Jordan: For lunch it’s a there’s a variety of salads we recommend, there’s a great number of soups. I’m a big fan of making soup for…
Sid: Let me interrupt you; as I stated earlier I east most of my meals out. I go to a restaurant or a fast food place; but I’m smart enough to know to order a salad. Now all of the dressings for the salads in these places they have these little containers that you tear open. They’re all prepared and they have about 5 or 6 different kind. Are those bad for you?
Jordan: The majority of the oils we consume especially in fast food restaurants are not healthy. However, most fast food restaurants and I say most not all off some type of oil and vinegar dressing. A lot of them partner with large food companies, Newman’s Own; you’re safer doing an oil and vinegar a balsamic vinaigrette type of a dressing verses say a ranch or a Thousand Island. Well, here is a clue if you got a 100 ingredients in a dressing you have ingredients that have both letters and numbers in them you’re probably consuming something unhealthy. So again it’s about choices; fast food restaurants are not conducive to health.
Sid: Now if you’re eating out you want lunch; or you work in an office like I am you don’t want to take a lot of time not the name of the restaurant but where would you go?
Jordan: Well, I would either go to a mid-range or a nicer restaurant and where I live there is 3 places. One of them is kind of a fine dining restaurant but during the day it has a buffet and they have healthy fish, beef, chicken, they’ve got green salad bar that I can consume. They got soups and another place is a little health cafe where you can get sandwich.
Sid: What is healthy fish by the way?
Jordan: Fish that have fins and scales.
Sid: That sounds Bible again.
Jordan: Well, you know you just keep coming back to that book we can’t escape it.
Sid: Well, what fish are in that category, name a few.
Jordan: Well, the healthiest fish are those that come from the oceans and streams. We’re talking about tuna, mackerel, herring, sardines are great. We’re talking about cod, sea bass, orange roughy, I mean there are dozens if not hundreds of different fish that are healthy. And those that are unhealthy and take it from me they’re all over the place because I live in Florida; shellfish, like crabs, lobster, shrimps, scallops. mussels, oysters…
Sid: Why are they unhealthy? Now the Bible says not to eat it but why are they unhealthy?
Jordan: Physiologically these particular shellfish are designed for a reason and they’re designed to purify the waste on our planet. For example one scallop can purify 36 gallons of water.
Sid: So there’s the oceans garbage cans.
Jordan: They are and when Noah was commanded to bring animals into the ark he took one pair of unclean animals and seven pairs of clean. If Moses got off that ark and started eating the unclean animals they would have been extinct because there was only 1 pair. But God created them for a reason and that includes pigs, bears,raccoons, skunks. That includes owls, eagles and ostriches; all these animals purify the environment but they do not belong in our bodies because they’re flesh creates toxins that their bodies weren’t created to remove. Remember I said nutrition is two things, in with the good out with the bad. God said the animals not to eat in Leviticus 11, Deuteronomy 14; do not properly detoxify wastes from their bodies. So when you eat their flesh you’re eating waste; it’s like garbage.
Sid: Okay, now most people are eating the wrong things; they have various degrees of constipation let’s say, and if that be true the bad stuff is being stored inside of them. What does that do to their body?
Jordan: Well, first of all when you consume toxins they’re most generally stored in the fat because a lot of these toxins are fat soluble and they don’t get removed. So what happens is year after year of eating this lifestyle living in a polluted environment, thinking negative thoughts, all of these are connected. They begin to overload their bodies natural ability to resist disease. And what happens is all of us were born with genetic strength and weakness; my weakness was digestion. I didn’t know that, but my living a lifestyle that was unhealthy that’s where it attacked me. Yours might be your lungs, Janie’s might be her skin. Some of us might be our heart. When you don’t eat and live properly according to God’s design what happens is you’re weakness become naked and exposed and you will present some type of health challenge. You know people think well, I’m healthy; my tonsils were removed, I had my gallbladder removed, I had my appendix removed, those three organs are all very important to health. And it seems like everybody is cutting everything out and trying to live a life that they think is healthy but we’re really crippled but we’re destroying ourselves one piece at a time.
Sid: How do most of the people feel that are following “The Maker’s Diet?” Really and truly because most people I know push themselves to feel energetic.
Jordan: People who follow “The Maker’s Diet” and we know this because he have chronicled hundreds of people that we have taken through the program. What Janie said earlier in the program “She has more energy.” She has lost some weight and she sleeps better. And that is what everybody says virtually who goes on the program. Those are 3 things; you know that’s not getting well from incurable disease but it makes a huge difference for someone who is a working mother, has a family to take care of. Who has a husband who’s an executive or a pastor. These people need to be healthy, they have demanding lives; they need to be healthy; they need to give it their all. And when someone goes on the program that’s just the average person listening that wants better health you’re going to notice normalization of weight. Some people are underweight and have illnesses that gain weight. Normalization of weight, they’re going to have energy and their going to sleep better. Plus many people have improved digestion, less joint pain, better mood and there are the occasional miracle stories much like mine that are really heartwarming. And people will say “Well, I’m better from this and I’m better from that.” This program is not a miracle cure by any stretch but what it is it gives us a way to properly take care of our bodies so that we perform optimally. Much like when we buy our cars there’s a manual that tells us what kind of gasoline to use, what kind of oil, when to change it; when to keep it covered and waxed. The better you do with your automobile the better the performance and longer life you’re going to get. Our bodies are the same way but just a little more valuable than what we’re driving around in.
Janie: You know Jordan when I read your book again people are eating a lot of the right foods but in the wrong form. For instance you said things about pasteurization that I had not known with milk. What harmful effects has that had on peoples’ bodies?
Jordan: Well, Janie when I grew up my father is a natural health professional and so I had always heard that milk was bad. So if you look at a lot of the popular nutrition books and the health authority they say “Milks bad, milks bad so I always thought that but when I was reading the Bible it says goats milk for you and your family.”
Sid: Look, Israel’s going to be the land of milk and honey.
Jordan: Absolutely, and so that must be a spiritual thing. So you know what the milk that we drink from the grocery store that is pasteurized, homogenized, skimmed, fortified and stored in plastic underneath in fluorescent lighting is not anything nearly the same as the milk that comes out of a goat or a cow in unpasteurized healthy form. And raw milk that’s very healing to the body is actually illegal in 49 states you have to order…
Sid: I’ve got to tell you something Mishpochah my guest is Dr. David Remedious and he’s a vascular surgeon like none you’ve ever heard of because he prays for his patients and many times will have a vision actually how to do the surgery. Sometimes even the organ that he’s cut out God gives the person back their organ. But there is river… river isn’t even the right word. There is a presence of God that is flowing through the airwaves right now that David can you feel; is this a healing anointing that I’m sensing.
David: Yes Sid absolutely absolutely.
Sid: That’s what I would have felt.
David: So strong.
Sid: It’s almost like it’s I’ll call it a gentle river; it’s a gentle velvety river of healing anointing. David I believe that if you will pray for people right now and they would release their faith they’re going to go into this river. This gentle river of healing anointing just like in Ezekiel where it talks about where ever the river goes there is life. And they will experience the life; not just life but the life of God in specific areas of their body. Will you pray for them David?
David: I’d be honored. Heavenly Father I come to you in the name of Yeshua, Jesus the Messiah. That You by Your strips they were healed. You came to heal all manner of sickness and diseases. And Lord there is nothing too difficult for you. Lord I pray for those that have incurable conditions in their bodies; fibromyalgia, AIDS, tumors that have metastasized. Lord God You are our healer so right now You sent out Your Word and You healed them Lore. I thank You Lord; there is now divine healing flowing through these airways. And there someone that is literally lying in an apartment in your bedroom and you literally have given up on life; you’ve given up on yourself. And I’m just here to tell you Mam that God is right now visiting you. There is literally a visitation and he’s touching your abdomen on the lower parts in the female organs. And God is restoring and healing and taking all these caked up insides that you have. And God is restoring you and making you a new you. You’ve lost so much weight; you’ve lost about 25 pounds in the past 4 weeks and I believe right now; today begins your healing. So I just thank You Lord for everyone that’s under the sound of our voices in Jesus Name. Thank You.
Sid: And while He was praying I heard two words; there is someone whose wrist is being healed right now. And someone whose back has (Laughing) not being healed it’s already been healed in Jesus Name. And I hear a popping in someone’s ear; someone’s ear has opened in Jesus Name. Now on yesterday’s…we’re going to get people upset David if we don’t go right back to what we were sharing on yesterday’s program. This vascular surgeon Dr. David Remedious is in the midst of surgery; he opens some up and finds out that her gallbladder had gangrene and ; was blocking her colon. And there’s a standard procedure, but the Holy Spirit says “Trust Me I want you to do a different procedure. If there were 100 doctors not one of them would have done that different procedure. David what happened next?
David: Well, I went ahead and performed; I took out the tumor and I took out the gallbladder of course; labatched everything inside real well. And I put the bile back together and again this was something that I did with trepidation. I went ahead and closed the skin because I knew, that I knew, I know His voice. And of course I sent her to the recovery room; spoke with her husband. And then that’s when for me it really began where I had to walk out what I heard. Obviously what if she gets septic and that is the most and it doesn’t hold up and obviously in my mind medical mind I was literally I have to be honest I was struggling with this. I said “Lord I know what you said and I trust you.” There comes a point in our lives when we have to trust that we heard and we have to trust God, trust God. It was amazing on the third day she went home; within 3 days she was home eating a regular diet having normal bowel movements.
Sid: But wait a second now; the normal procedure is she has a bag and how long does she stay in the hospital normally?
David: Normally the best or the most severe circumstance we’re talking about it’s probably about a week at least. A week or 10 days minimum. Well about the third day she was home eating a regular diet and having normal bowel movements. That just does not happen.
Sid: Normal bowel movements?
David: Correct; yes.
Sid: And your saying that this does not happen.
David: No Sir, no. (Laughing) after that kind of procedure. No Sir; I’ve never seen that before.
Sid: Well, something else happened to her; it’s got to do with her colon; how much of her colon did you remove?
David: Oh about 3 feet or so.
Sid: Out of curiosity do colons regenerate or grow back?
David: No, no.
Sid: So it’s medically impossible to have a new colon.
Sid: What happened to her?
David: Well, I took it out and then of course I do a follow up colonoscopy a year later and she had a normal size colon. We took the whole colonoscope all the way and everything. It didn’t look like she even had surgery inside. Couldn’t even find the anastomosis; went all the way.
Sid: Again medically is there one out of a 1000 explanations medically.
David: No Sir that don’t happen; none.
Sid: When you see God operate like that, excuse the pun, what goes on with you?
David: Well, this is totally outside of the…
Sid: It’s outrageous David. (Laughing)
David: (Laughing) With all due respect Lord yeah, yeah yes I don’t know what word to use.
Sid: You know what I have Dee Sapp on the telephone right now. I want to see what happened from her perspective. Dee you’re having very serious surgery; it could cost you your life; you’re on the operating table your out. What, if anything, is going on with you during the surgery?
Dee: During the surgery time I actually was knocked out the evening before on a Saturday evening and was awakened Sunday night after the surgery was completed. So everything that I saw really was in a Spirit realm looking over my body up above my body looking into my body. And actually what I saw was children as angels jumping up and down rolling around in my stomach area laughing. A very warm presence; very much a feeling of love. And they literally spoke to me and said “I could be at peace; all is well and then they left my body.”
Sid: At the same time David you had prayed for angelic help and you felt you were getting it am I right?
David: Oh, absolutely, absolutely.
Sid: So she sees the angels in a spirit realm. You feel them; you’re being instructed. You know I interviewed an individual recently that had his eyes opened to the spirit realm and there were believers dancing and worshiping God and there were angels right behind those that were dancing and worshiping God the same way. It’s almost like the angel does the same thing that we’re doing or maybe it’s assisting us to do it the way that’s pleasing God. Did you feel that there was a supernatural gifting coming over you when you were operating on Dee?
David: Oh there’s no doubt about it; it’s wonderful and at the same time from a medical perspective you know how do you fit the supernatural thing into the natural. There is no fitting in this; it’s just supernatural it’s a God thing.
Sid: So Dee, when you woke up you were really at peace.
Dee: Oh absolutely I’m not famous for not being a nonworrier I normally ask a 1000 questions and I walk in the presence of the Lord for possibly 8 months from that encounter. That was a divine time really; everything was peaceful; the function of my life; the debts. It was amazing.
Sid: But look at what could have happened. You could have left that place with a bag that you’d have to using… I mean your whole life; would have changed. God is a good God.
Dee: He is extremely good.
Sid: So when did you find out that God did even more than you asked for?
Dee: In December of ’96 a year later I was to have colonoscopy to determine the status of the legions and all that. And at that point Dr. Remedious did that colonoscopy and we were told that I had as much colon now as I had before the surgery was ever completed. They used the entire scope and that should not have been the case for him removing over half of my colon.
Sid: So has this been classified as a miracle from a medical perspective?
David: Absolutely; absolutely.
Sid: Out of curiosity Dee do you share your testimony much and I’m wondering if people get healed when they hear what happened?
Dee: I do share it if God opens the door; in fact I just got an invitation from Texas in the Houston area just got off the phone with them. And yes we have seen healings; God uses my husband also even before I was healed; God used him in discernment of knowing and praying for individuals. And they were healed; and it’s awesome and it’s a great privilege and it’s definitely… to stand there and to say “I know God in a creative miracle format.” is unbelievable to me still.
Sid: Well, Dee and David we’re out of time right now.
Sid: We want everyone everywhere to get excited; I mean if you realized what God did in your life how you were heading to a place called hell, that there was no hope. You were helpless; you were hopeless. I don’t care what’s going on in your life right now I tell you if that was all God did was to pull you by your straps out of landing up for eternity with no chance of reversal from Hell you have enough to rejoice in God for the rest of your life. But the truth of the matter is all authority has been given to the Messiah and we have been given power of attorney. My guest in the studio is Jose Santana and he’s a prophet from the Rochester, New York area. I’m very very impressed with the accuracy of his prophesies. I was reading this morning in the Gospel of Matthew 18:18 and this my spin on what I read, it says “Whatever you bind of Earth will be bound in Heaven.” But in studying in the Greek this is what it means “Whatever in the Name of Jesus you unchain on earth has already been unchained in Heaven.” So if you have insight into what is being unchained in Heaven. And the Word of God gave you as much insight as you need then you’re the enforcer. And whatever you chain on earth has already been chained in Heaven. In other words, if I see something evil like cancer, I can chain it; I can put it in chains because it already happened in Heaven. I know this from the Bible; I can tell you tell you’re getting excited you jump off on that.
Jose: Yeah, I marvel like we go to some meetings and I see the Holy Spirit coming in and He looks just like a cloud and He’s touching people but He doesn’t touch everybody. So I asked the other day “Lord, how come You don’t touch them all so people’s life will be changed.” He said “I’m the Lord thy God that looks at the heart.” So a lot of times people receive miracles because I believe the heart has been properly positioned, broken, bruised or whatever you want to call it but the heart is right before God and God could just touch them and they receive. There are other people full of pride and arrogance or whatever and the Holy Ghost just pass them by.
Sid: Now sometimes nonbelievers are healed which causes them to become believers is that the exception?
Jose: I believe that it is always an issue of the heart. We have remember in the Bible the widow that Elijah was sent to her and he took care. Jesus said “There was many other widows at that time but how come only her?” I believe because her heart was right with God.
Sid: Jose I believe that if you tell the people about the love of God that you experienced when you were taken to Heaven when you felt God forgave you but you didn’t forgive yourself. That’s what it was and there’s no way He could have love you that much; describe the love that you felt.
Jose: My Lord, the word says “Blessed is the man that God has forgiven his sin who’s record is clear” in the Psalms. And that’s what took place with me; my carnal mind couldn’t comprehend the love of Jesus Christ that surpasses all understanding. When I received the revelation of God I became a righteous man I became a holy man of God because of what He did for me in Calvary. That’s to any of you that are listening today you must be born again to enter into the Kingdom of God. John 3:3 declares that. It is just by faith and trusting in Jesus as you Savior that you receive the peace of God that surpasses all understanding. And that’s the encounter that I had with the Lord in my life changed. And if He could change my life I guarantee you that He could change yours too.
Sid: Explain the love that you felt from the Messiah in Heaven. Explain that if you can.
Jose: The only way that I can explain that to you is this; if you like a piece of steak this is better than the steak. If you have a love encounter and I could say a sexual relationship it’s much better than that. If you are one that likes to dress very good it’s better than dressing good. It blows your mind; it is the peace of God that takes over your whole body, your soul; everything becomes renewed and you are a new creature in Christ. That’s what I’ve experienced; it’s better than any drug that you could do; it’s better than any car that you could drive; any fame; any hotel it’s all of this is nothing compared with the love of Jesus Christ. That’s what I experienced when He touched my life.
Sid: Left field question, “Why are so many real born again Christians getting divorced? Why has marriage become cheap? Why have the vows become cheap?
Jose: Because they have opened the heart. It’s all an issue of the heart. For instance, if a Delilah spirit jumped before me and flashes me and I truly have the love of God and the fear of God in my heart I’m not going to yield to that sin to that pleasure because my wife satisfy me in all her doing. Because I love the Lord Jesus He makes my wife as a second skin so I don’t have to go to her.
Sid: But why does it seem to be almost an acceptable sin today?
Jose: Because people are not walking close to God. You see the Bible says “The fear of the Lord is the beginning of all wisdom.” They do not operate in the fear of God I’m sorry to tell you.
Sid: You know it’s almost as if Hollywood has invaded the church.
Jose: That’s true, I’ve seen that left and right and then they excuse it they say “The devil made me do it.” I say “No, no you yield some connection in your heart with that sin; you’re connected between your heart and the sinful desire and you yield.” Versus if you submit to God and he will flee.” So there is no excuse why people are yielding to them temptations.
Sid: Jose you just received something from God.
Jose: Yes, I hear the voice of the Holy Spirit saying that there’s a lot of people out there that they want the gifting’s and the forefront of the church but it’s for the wrong motive. The Word of the Lord declares that the greatest of all must be a servant of all. So whatever gift whether it’s prophet, teacher, evangelist, or the fivefold we must know and operate in servant hood, humility, because the Lord our God He wants us to operate in the humility and the gifting’s and the humility that He has placed upon us. If I’m a prophet in the local church my main job is to warn and blow the trumpet when harm is coming to that local church. Not just to say that I could prophesy, that is okay but the main thing is to cover the leadership and protect them through the word of God that revelation comes to me. Not to just bring attention to myself and to give; that to me is childishness.
Sid: You weren’t talking about this but you sparked something in me when you said that. Motive is so important; there are people today that have been trained unfortunately by a lot of many Christian television shows and radio shows that if your give your will get. The motivation is to get things so that you can have things in your life rather than the Kingdom. There’s something out of kilter; I had a letter the other day and it said “Sid is it true that if I send an offering to a specific ministry I can believe God for a new car and He’ll give it to me?” And it’s… there is truth to the law of sowing and reaping. In our ministry we practice Genesis 12:3 “God says himself, I’ll bless those that bless the Jewish people.” But if you’re giving money to get rather than giving money for the Kingdom… Isn’t that what you were talking about on the gifts?
Jose: I have prophesied so many automobiles for people I have not even asked them for a penny, I don’t dare prostitute the gift that God has given me. Freely I have received; freely I give because it is all about His Kingdom.
Sid: I believe that we’re living in a period of time right now and I’m curious if God’s showing this. But it’s the age of Ananias and Sapphira; those that it appeared were getting away with sin in the church I pray to God that they’ll be exposed…
Jose: My Lord.
Sid: in Jesus Name. So that they can repent and get right because if they’re not exposed in this life there is no hope when they die. It’s not one saved always saved. It’s being saved and being grateful for your whole life. And if you stumble repent and repentance is a change of behavior not playing games.
Jose: That’s right; the Bible says to walk your salvation with fear and trembling. x
Sid: I picture people dropping dead in churches as the presence… as God draws nearer to earth, those that are in sin in the church it will be the worst experience that they’ve ever had.