Our Guest Matt Sorger
SID: Hello, Sid Roth here with Matt Sorger. And I know no one went away. Because Matt goes into his office, he’s a young pastor and the presence of God is there, and he’s got his laundry list of things he has to do. Would you believe as spiritual as he his, he tells God, he’s arguing, and he says, I’ve got to do all these things. I feel guilty that I haven’t done all these things. How could you do that, Matt? I mean, God is there in your room.
MATT: I know. It’s the natural tendency of the human mind. But as I was feeling these feelings of guilt for taking too much time, what I thought was too much time in prayer, God spoke to me and He said, “Matt, if you don’t have this time with me now you won’t be able to step into what I have for you in the future.” And at that time I was a young pastor. I had no idea God wanted to use me for healing, that we’d be traveling to all these nations and seeing all these wonderful things happen by the anointing of God. But I knew that day that my present moment with the Lord would determine my future ministry and calling of God.
SID: I know that had I not spent time in the Spirit with the Lord in the early days, you know what I believe, Matt? When I was praying in supernatural languages, I was prophesying my future and I didn’t even know it. That’s what I believe. But then there’s a second thing I want Matt to explain to you. When he was in college, the Lord came to him and spoke to him, and gave him some very strong instructions. What did he tell you?
MATT: This was before I had stepped into ministry. I was just getting a sense of my call, and it was the first prophetic word God ever spoke to me, and He said to me, the top of His list for me was the bottom of my list, and the bottom of my list was the top of His list, and he was going to invert it correctly. And He said the top of His list for me was the refinement of my character and the bottom of His list was the fulfillment of my ministry. And He said that He was going to cause my roots to go so deep in Him, that when the day came in the future and I would experience success in ministry, that I would be solid and I would not be moved to the right or to the left because my roots had time to go down in God with the refinement of my character. And I will say from that word, years in my life, God put me through His fire, refined me, tested me, tried me, purified my life so that as that anointing began to overflow out of my life I would be able to sustain and carry it.
SID: This is so important. No matter how old you are, God is more concerned about your character than your gifting. Get that, get that well, because Matt now is seeing the most amazing miracles. But before we get to even some of those miracles, there was another key that happened in your life, and that was you had an opportunity just before Oral Roberts went to Heaven to be prayed for. And you asked him to meet a very important question. What was that question?
MATT: I asked him, it was a few months before he went home to be with the Lord. I asked him, what was the key to his miracle ministry? To the miracles he saw in his tent meetings. And I was surprised a little bit by his answer. I shouldn’t have been, but I was a little surprised.
SID: I would have thought, I got an anointing and miracles happen wherever I go. That’s what I would have expected him to say.
MATT: Exactly. Or I was expecting him to say something about faith. And he looked at us, there was a small group of us there, and he said, “A lot of people would think it was my faith that was the main key for all the miracles we saw.” He said, “But everyone has faith. The Bible says we all have faith.” He said, “I don’t have to seek for faith. God has given us the faith. That’s what the Word says.” He said, “But when I go into my hotel room before a crusade, I would begin to pray for God to give me His love for the people.” He said, “As God began to fill my heart with love, the miracles exploded to a whole new level in the meetings.”
SID: So out of curiosity, since he told you that, how do you pray before a meeting?
MATT: I began to pray for God’s love. And I don’t pray it even just before a meeting. I make it a part of my daily prayer life. Lord, constantly fill my heart with your love. Overflow my heart with your compassion. And you know, when you study the Word, you see it. The Bible says Jesus was moved with compassion and he healed the sick. Galatians 5 says that, “Faith works through the love.” And the amplified explains it this way. Faith is motivated by love, energized by love, set into motion by love and love is actually the key that ignites faith.
SID: Okay. How would you like to go to India with Matt to a leper colony and love these people? These are people that are the lowest level of society. No one, they probably have never been touched since they started with their leprosy. What did you and our team do there?
MATT: The Lord sent us there and we had fed the lepers, we sat with them. We had women on our team sit in the dirt with their arms around other women that had leprosy. Their hands were falling off. Parts of their face, I mean, open sores. But this love of God overwhelmed our hearts. And we laid hands on them, hugged them, prayed for them. And after we left…
SID: Wait a second. You hugged a leper? Don’t you, Matt, didn’t your mother tell you it’s contagious?
MATT: It is contagious.
SID: You saw what happens to someone with leprosy. All their skin comes off.
MATT: I know.
SID: I mean you really embraced them?
MATT: Yes we did. And you know what? And that’s where my faith is at, because I know as a believer in Jesus, we’re covered with the blood of Jesus. My faith says before sickness can touch my body it has to go through the blood of Jesus first, and it will die before it gets to me. So that was my faith. But when we got home from that trip, the pastor from India called us weeping on the other end of the phone.” Matt, we went back to the leper colony and the lepers told us, when that white man came in and put his hand on us we felt something in our bodies and the leprosy has stopped.” And the pastor was weeping because he had never seen this happen before where the lepers were getting healed, not only healed, they were getting loved and they were receiving healing on the inside and on the outside.
SID ROTH: Just as Matt shared that, the love of God just erupted. And I pray in Yeshua’s name that Matt will operate in that compassion when we come back. Don’t go away.
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