Sid: Can you imagine being able like Paul said “I knew a man whether it was in his body or not in his body but he was caught up into the 3rd heaven.” Well I have a guest that was caught up into the 3rd heaven and he tells me that once he has done something in the spirit then he has the faith to keep doing it. For instance, James Durham you told me that when you’ve been healed of something physically you have the faith to pray for other people to be healed of the same conditions. Tell me two conditions you’ve been healed of personally.
James: I’ve been healed of rotor cuff damage in both shoulders and I was told coming out of the army I needed both knees to be replaced. But Dr. Jesus took care of all four of those situations and…
Sid: And I’ll tell you one thing that I’m interested in personally you notice what I have on a pair of glasses. God healed your eyes.
James: That’s correct.
Sid: What did He do?
James: All of my life I wore trifocals and I had to have those glasses for everything and I suddenly began to think that my glasses were dirty or foggy. Took them off and they were clear, clean and as I had my glasses off I looked and I could see without the glasses. So the distant vision and the near vision both were healed; only thing remaining and I’m believing for it any time now is for reading.
Sid: Well I tell you what I’ll tell you what intrigues me even more than anything we’ve said and if that’s not enough… by the way do you go to 3rd heaven every day?
James: Almost every day; I went every day for three years, two months and two weeks. But now almost every day I was there this morning.
Sid: Did you get any instructions this morning; was that the words that you prayed yesterday the words of knowledge or Monday I think?
James: I received something a little different that added on to something that you teach about the middle wall of separation coming down.
Sid: Tell me what it was; what did you see?
James: What I saw was the separation between heaven and earth coming down.
James: Instead of me going up to heaven, heaven coming down to me. And I saw where Jesus said many times that the Kingdom of heaven is at hand; it’s not some long distance away it’s not far far away. And this morning I saw the physical things in front of me just disappeared and I was looking into that worship room, the throne room in heaven and I was in my room and partially in that room at the same time. And I believe that that wall of separation is coming down in this…
Sid: It’s almost like a veil that’s being removed.
James: Yes like 2nd Corinthians 3:18 “All of us with unveiled faces can begin to see the glory of God like in a mirror and then move from glory to glory.”
Sid: I have to believe that this is happening right now because we’re so close to the return of Jesus.
James: Yes. That’s my understanding that we’re so close that God’s breaking down every barrier, every separation. And even that wall dividing heaven and earth is down at this time.
Sid: Okay, another thing that intrigues me, I mean there’s so much Mishpochah he’s doing what he’s supposed to do he’s provoking this Jew to jealousy. I hope he’s provoking you to jealousy too. But one time you went to 3rd heaven and when you got back something was going on with your hands they were like on fire. Tell me the circumstances of this.
James: When I visited in heaven the Lord put a stone in each hand; in the left hand was a ruby that was about the size of an egg and it began to melt into my hand. As it did my hand just caught on fire; I asked the Lord what that was and He said “That was the love of the Father and that He was imparting that for me to release that to other people to release the love of the Father.” Especially I think that we’re in a fatherless generation around the world and people are crying out for the love of the Father.
Sid: What does this do for a person when they receive the love of the Father?
James: I think they feel acceptance; they suddenly feel connected a connection they never had before without a father they’re not really connected to their history.
Sid: So you’re talking to half of the people probably in America…
Sid: …when you’re talking that. So your hands were on fire in the 3rd heaven; what happened when you got to earth?
James: When I got back to earth they were still on fire and it was a very painful fire and the only relief I could get was to put my hands under s cold water faucet and to let them cool off but as soon as I pulled them back out from under the faucet they were on fire again.
Sid: Now when you touch people could they feel your hands were warm; like your wife if she touched your hands would she know that they were on fire?
James: Yes she would and sometimes because she started to experiencing it because I know that it’s transferable because she started experiencing it a few days after that experience I had. Sometimes when we’re praying over people they say “The fire is so hot it’s like it’s burning their skin.”
Sid: Now did you see a physical healing when you would lay hands on people?
James: Yes, when that fire is present and especially the fire in the right hand releases the healing anointing and the left was the Father’s love. But in the right hand was for healing and the presence of that fire just heals so many different things we’ve seen.
Sid: You know what I’d like you to pray right now if you don’t mind; we’re living in a generation even those that have had relatively good fathers compared to thee Father’s love it’s nothing. I believe that you can pray a prayer right now of impartation for everyone that wants this to receive the Father’s love; would you pray that James right now?
James: Yes I will. Father God I give You thanks and praise that You are love; that You release such an overpowering wave of love into our hearts that it literally changes us forever. Father God I ask right now that You release that and I release an impartation into everyone listening to this that You would let the flow the wave of Your love flow over them, in them, through them Lord; let it be a life changing experience of acceptance of love empowering; cleansing, purifying. Lord connect them with their inheritance of the generations of the faithful; Lord restore them to unity level of glory with You; and I pray it right now release that impartation in the Name of Yeshua haMashiach, Amen and Amen.
Sid: Well there’s such a sweet; that’s the only way that I can describe it… sweet flow of God’s Spirit. Now when you go to the 3rd heaven James you hear things about the future for even countries. For instance you’ve even heard things about Israel, about the United States, about Korea. Korea’s been a lot in the news; especially the character the president of North Korea. What’s going to happen to Korea from what God’s tell you?
James: From what God’s telling me is that we’re looking in the very near future to another regime change in the north that’s going to be much more moderate. And I heard the Lord say “That they’ll even be another one after that and it’s going to open the flood gate for evangelists from south Korea to sweep into north Korea and restore them to Father God.” Standing on the demilitarize zone in 2010 I felt such a pain in my heart; the Holy Spirit let me feel some of His grief over the lost souls in North Korea. And I know that…
Sid: I understand that it’s horrific for those that become Christian’s that they go off to slave labor camps and usually die.
James: And even now public executions; they’re accused of terrible crimes; the crimes that they’re accused of pornography and other things, but the pornography that they’re talking about is their watching Christian video’s, reading the Bible; reading devotional books, public executions, just terrible persecution and yet they persist.
Sid: Now what do you see as far as when South Korea is free to evangelize North Korea; what’s going to happen to Korea as a country?
James: I think that Korea as a country is going to just release a powerful flow of revival that will reach around the whole world. When this happens there is going to be an explosion of glory that moves throughout the world. I don’t think that anyone will be able to ignore what happens in North Korea. When that wall comes down and the masses of people are introduced to their Father God and to Yeshua it will get the attention of the whole world.
Sid: But I’m reminded in the 9th Chapter of Romans it says of the Jewish people of them is the glory. What is God showing you about the glory and Israel?
James: The Lord is telling that it’s going to happen simultaneously that…
James: That there’s going to be a release of evangelistic Spirit in Israel that’s going to also get the attention of the whole world. That’s why I pray that the powerful prophetic words will be released along with the Shalom of God over Israel to lead them back to Him through Yeshua haMashiach. And I just see that there’s going to be a wave of glory and of revival in Israel that will catch the attention of the whole world.
Sid: And how about the United States; are we Swiss cheese; what’s going to happen to us. (Laughing)
James: (Laughing) I think that when we see those things happening it’s going to provoke us to jealousy and there’s going to be an opening; a powerful opening of the United States. I just see God positioning people now along the interstate highways to begin to pray for a flow of the Spirit; a move of the Holy Spirit in revival to crisscross around the United States.
Sid: When you say revival draw me a picture with words; what is this going to look like?
James: Well the amazing thing is that God keeps telling me that He’s going to do something completely new; so new that we don’t even have words yet to describe it. I believe that…
Sid: I like that that means the religious people will say “I’ve never seen that before” as if they know everything of God. (Laughing) And they’re going to miss it.
James: Absolutely, they will and my prayer is that I won’t miss it and that you won’t miss it.
Sid: Good. And my prayer is that those listening to us will not miss it. And you know what you’re not going to; you’re hungry for God….
Sid: I don’t know a better way of being red hot for the Messiah than to find out exactly what He did for us. And this is Passover week and that’s why I’m so excited about the book we’re making available it’s called “The Passion What Does it Mean?” And we’ve seen the passion the movie perhaps through perhaps Catholic eyes but we have not seen the passion through Jewish eyes. And that’s the only way that you can understand the depth and the riches of the Passion. I have the author Dr. Bree Keyton on the telephone here I’m speaking to her at her home in Kansas City… I promised our Mishpochah that we would play the selection called “Nails.” Tell me about what this means and what happens when people listen to this particular music.
Bree: Jesus was the most violent offender to the kingdom of darkness that’s every lived and that’s why He was nailed to the cross. Now your listeners are about to hear this song “Nails” and I want them to know that nails were put in His hands and feet to deliver us to set us free from all of the attacks of Satan against our souls, against our bodies, against our mind. And so when you listen to this if you will just lay your hand on your belly and if you feel a stirring just let God set you free. This is a powerful song and it’s based on the authority given the believer in Luke 10:19 which says “Behold I have given you power to trend on serpents and scorpions and over all of the power of the enemy.” That means the enemy does have power but He’s given us authority over it; and this is part of what this song will do is to set you free; to deliver you and bring you into a closer more intimate walk with the Lord.
Sid: Okay, “Nails.”
Sid: That was “Nails” by Dr. Bree Keyton and this came out of several years of fasting; actually originated from a vision she had in May of 1993 where she saw the Messiah being crucified, she saw the passion. And as a matter of fact on Monday’s broadcast we played a song in which you hear the whip cracking 39 times and what does that mean Bree?
Bree: Of course we know from scripture Isaiah 53 is an absolutely marvelous picture of the coming suffering of the Messiah. It is amazing to me that the people did not recognize Him when He came but the suffering of the Messiah for us to be healed; for us to be delivered. And Isaiah 53 really deals with that in depth. There have been a number of people just sovereignly healed by God; getting up out of wheelchairs. There’s a particular woman I was doing a concert in the park the summer… a couple of summers ago I could remember her clearly as I did this song I could see her face begin to light up. I went out and I touched her hat and I said “Rise and walk” and this woman got up out of a wheelchair, she had not walked in 15 years. And she got up and strength came into her legs and she walked up and down praising God and giving glory to God. And that’s of course my only goal is bring glory to God; these songs were really His and they really bring close to us that how much Jesus suffered for us that we might be healed, we might be delivered, and most of all that we might be saved.
Sid: Now Bree, you had this vision of May 1993 in which you saw Jesus’ suffering which Mel Gibson’s movie was almost nothing compared to the suffering that you saw Him go through. But I can see how God’s prepared the vessel you’ve gone through a lot of suffering in your life. As a matter of fact you should be dead. Tell me what happened, you were a nightclub singer before you became a believer in the Messiah. Tell me what happened.
Bree: Yes, I was a warm up back for rock stars by brother and I traveled the country from the time we were little kids and we’d come out and do the warm up and then the rock idol or whoever it was would come out and do their whole show. And of course we had a nightclub act where we came out and sang and danced. And one night a man nobody knows who he was, nobody knows why this happened, but he came in the back ad shot me in the head. Now I fell forward and I was taken to the hospital, the man got away and nobody ever knew who it was. And he got away and they took me to the hospital, dug the bullet out of my head, washed it out with salt water, x-rayed it and said “Go home.” And that doesn’t sound possible to me Bree, it sounds like it’s a miracle. It was a miracle but you know Sid; there was somebody praying for me all of those years that I was in the world and it was a family friend who was a Christian man and he just stood in the gap for me and prayed and prayed and never would give up. I just wish that everybody would do that; they would think of somebody to pray for that just looks impossible. But I know that I looked impossible because I was so ensconced in show business that I was so deep into that lifestyle it was just a miracle that I ever came out of it.
Sid: What about the time that you were screaming like Janis Joplin; what happened to your voice box?
Bree: You know I was in a rock band that later those guys became the Ozark Mountain Daredevils, but at that time we were in a band called Albatross. I was on stage screaming on a Janis Joplin song and my throat pour and blood gushed out and I fell forward onto the audience; it seems I do a lot of that doesn’t it. And they took me home; I went to the doctor and they said “You’ll never sing or speak again; you’ve destroyed your voice.” And so I really was heartbroken because unfortunately music was my god at that time. And I thought “Oh no, my life is over, I couldn’t image doing anything else.” And one day I actually had a good friend who had been a Pentecostal believer at one time, of course he wasn’t living a very godly life at that time, but he said “Why don’t you just get on your knees and ask God to heal your voice.” And I thought “Aha, an epiphany what an idea.” So I waited till everyone had left and I got down on my knees and I said, of course I couldn’t speak out-loud I just mouthed these words, I said “God if you’re really there heal my voice and I’ll give it to You.”
Sid: Bree we’re out of time we’ll pick up here on tomorrow’s broadcast I got to find out what happened to someone that’s a professional singer and their voice box is ripped out.
Sid: We want everyone every where to be so reliant on God’s Spirit that they will fulfill their destiny that they will not be a copy; they’ll be an original. Now Larry Randolph you see him today teaching, and prophesying major events but Larry if God hadn’t visited you in your early 20’s you had such a negative image of yourself could you have possibly fulfilled your destiny of prophesying these major events?
Larry: I could not and let me tell you why it’s so clear to me the link for that was and is. One of the reason’s I’m able to do what I’m doing now and the ministry now is because of what I’ve learned about being authentic and being real and original. Because this is what I learned that…about that is that God shares secrets with His friends. And if you become a friend with someone you have to be authentic; the only way that you develop true friendship is to be yourself; you have to let your guard down; you have to be authentic; you have to be real. And I felt that part of God’s work in my life to get me to become real and authentic opened the door for Him to share secrets because friends don’t share secrets with those that are not themselves or they’re trying to be someone else. They share secrets, they share things with them that they can trust them with and they just love communicating with. So sometimes when I get things from the Lord I’m just talking to the Lord we’re having a good time and it’s like He’s fellowshipping with me and He lets things slip. I know that it’s terrible to say it that way because friends do that when they talk they tell you things they wouldn’t tell someone else. But I think that the core value the nexus for that; the tipping point for that has to be the authenticity and the realness and the sense of self-esteem that you are a reflection of Christ. If you have that God can just trust you with gifts of the Spirit and words of the Spirit and things that come to you.
Sid: Well, you described earlier this week that you were such a negative person; that you didn’t have many friends, that you were just plain miserable. Let me ask you this question; you knew how you were today when you look at yourself in the mirror; who do you see?
Larry: When I look at myself in the mirror; when I used to look at myself in the mirror there was distain; I couldn’t look at myself in the mirror. But when I look at myself in the mirror today honestly what I see is there’s a…I’m going to say it the only way I know how to say it Sid because words cannot quite capture it. There’s a part of God somewhere in His enormous character and nature that looks like me because I come from Him. So when I look at that I don’t mean I’m in love with myself, I don’t mean that I’m full of pride. I mean I’m looking at this treasure that we have in earthen vessels which Paul talks about. I’m a treasure, your a treasure, everyone listening is a treasure because there’s a part of God that looks like every person. In other words we were a dream in God’s heart before the foundation of the world and your birth was a dream come true. So God I believe visits every birth to see if the dream come to past that He dreamed about us. It’s what Paul said “He predestined us.” In other words he foreknew us and he set our rising before the foundation of the world. So when I look in the mirror I look and I say “Wow, I’m looking at a dream come to pass that was in God’s heart billions of years ago; I am indebted now to become all I can be to make Him proud; to be as much like the dream that He dreamed about me that I can be. I’ve refused the nightmare the enemy’s tried to tell me I am and I’ve accepted the dream come true that God has made me to be.
Sid: I’m just curious people that have read your newest book “Original Breath,” have you heard of testimonies. Oh in fact I seem to recall that you were talking about this at a meeting one time and you released the people to say honestly who they believe that Jesus called them to be.
Sid: Tell me about that.
Larry: I’ve been doing that in a few meetings, by the way I was going to say that there’s one church in northern California for their whole Bible study every week to try to pull them out of the constrictions and bad self images etcetera. So I just got some information from them talking about how their life had been changed and the concepts had changed their life etcetera because there’s a world full of hurting people and low self-image is pretty much the high bar for pretty many in the church. So what I do sometimes Sid is when I feel this I will gather when people are in the room I will say “I want to bless you; and the blessing.” What does a father do when he wants to bless his children; he gives them permission to become all that they can become and what they’re destined to be. He didn’t put on them what he thinks they’re supposed to be he gives them permission. So the scripture says “What-so-ever you loose on earth can be loosed in heaven.” So I loose on earth what already loosed in heaven in their life and they just don’t know it. So I give them blessing, I say “Tell me your deepest dream that your afraid to tell someone because you think that they’ll laugh at you; tell me the thing that you think that your called to be but your insecurity won’t let you and say it out loud, I will bless you and I’ll give you a fathers blessing. And prophecy over you as Jacob did his sons to be what God has called you to be. And Sid, the amazing testimony on that are incredible because most have people have been told they can’t do it; they can’t make it they’re stupid, their parents maybe have told them that. So it breaks that negative voice and it declares the positive voice, that original breath in them. It releases that original breath so they can exhale from their very heart all that God has put in them; so.
Sid: It’s almost like the first time in their life they have permission.
Larry: They have permission, absolutely. I talk about that in the book, there’s permission to be what God has called you to be is probably one of the deficits in the church; we have very little permission to be an original because everybody wants to make us in their image not in God’s image.
Sid: I wonder if you would pray this for the people just like you do at churches to release them right now to be the unique person that God created them to be. And if they only could comprehend two things: “The love of God for them” and “How unique they are with a special destiny.”
Larry: Yes, I will do that. “Father we thank you for the expression of Your wonderful diverse nature; the universe is not able to contain the expression of such a diverse God; Your all in all; Your bigger than everything; and out of that You have given us a piece of Your nature and Your heart and you have dreamed about us and You’ve dreamed our destinies and You’ve dreamed about us and what you’ve wanted us to become; so Lord that dream that’s in the peoples hearts that are listening that original intention; that original thought, that original breath of the Ruach, the Breath of heaven that’s in their spirit I ask Lord that You would release it and that you would take from them the gag order the enemy has put on their mouth and the depression that is upon them and the sense of worthlessness that is upon them. And Lord, I release them to become what You have called them to be and some of you that means doctors, you know that doctors, many doctors is a gift from God. Many in the church would be dead if there wasn’t a gift from God. Lawyers are from God if that’s what God’s called you to do; preachers are a gift from God; prophets are a gift from God; mid-wives are a gift from God; bankers are a gift from God; and so is musicians and talent and creativity and actors and actresses so it’s not just releasing you to just be a few things but releasing you to fit in this eco-system that we call civilization right now in a way that God can use you like Daniel in Babylon was a governor; like Joseph was a CEO of corporate Egypt and God helped him to come into a unique destiny that had never lived before. So I declare to your wildest dreams; your wildest heart pulse that says “I think that I’m called to be that.” Lord we release them into that destiny and we give them permission; Sid and I agree they have permission to become what God has called them to be regardless of what they feel.
Sid: Larry you find that your prophetic gift is keener; people being healed easier; why now why wasn’t it 30 years ago?
Larry: Because I couldn’t…you know what you can only give away what you have; and the root of poverty is not money; the root of poverty is poverty of soul. And when you have a deficit in your soul and a negative in your soul; that is a root of real poverty. In other words you cannot encourage other people; you cannot put blessings on other people. You can’t pull people up to higher level because you have that need in your life and it’s like you can’t give away what you need. You know the scriptures say “Comfort others with the same comfort your comforted with. So you have to have that comfort to be able to do that; to be able to invest. Here’s what I call it we have a great deficit of compliment in the church; we don’t know how to compliment one another because we’ve never felt worth anything. So you’ve got to lose that sense of no selfworth; lose that sense of and to compliment and to encourage. Because the greatest gift that you can every have is the gift of encouraging other people.
Sid: And you know in our society we are so self-centered we’re trained from little childhood to be self-centered. Your talking the opposite.
Larry: I am, it’s a spirit of soulish poverty; you cannot value and compliment other people; you don’t have a complimentary spirit. See a prosperous spirit; a prosperous spirit is a complimentary spirit and so when you have a complimentary spirit you are constantly complimenting people; you’re constantly seeing the gold in them; seeing the original breath.
Sid: And they’re not competition to you are they Larry.
Larry: No, they’re no competition. As a matter of fact you are hoping that your ceiling is their ground floor, your hoping they do better than you; your hoping you would…you know it would make our job easier to take them above and beyond you. John Wimber who I was with for many years used to say that the five fold ministry Paul said in Ephesians is to equip the saints to do the work of the ministry. Somehow in this kind of American culture we thought that it’s only a few chosen peoples obligation to do the work. When we are supposed to actually teach the people and equip them to do the work of the ministry. Jesus was comfortable saying “I love you so much I hope you do greater works than I’ve done; as a matter of facts you are going to do greater works than I have done.”
Sid RothComments Off on Our Guest Gordon Robertson
Sid: I have on the telephone Gordon Robertson; he is host of 700 Club along with his dad, Pat Robertson who founded the 700 Club. Gordon on yesterday’s broadcast we left them hanging. You got a call from John Jimenez to go to India, you’re a comfortable attorney. You want nothing to do with ministry, you’re in a backslidden type lukewarm type of state. But you had a little fleece if you get a visa, and in a couple of days you got his visa. And before you knew it you were in India and the next day he says “You’re preaching.” You’d never preached before, you preached for the first message of your life to 15,000 Hindu’s and people started coming forward to receive the Lord. And there was one particular family, they were Brahmin’s. And what are Brahmin’s for those that don’t understand?
Gordon: Brahmin’s are the priest class of the Hindu society, they’re the top caste of their culture. They’re the land owners, sort of the most powerful class within Hindu culture and they’re the ones who are called the twice born. They’re the only ones that have any chance of achieving Nirvana. Moksha is what the Hindus call it.
Sid: What did they say to you when they came forward?
Gordon: They had tears in their eyes and they said “We cannot help but believe in this Jesus that you preach. Your words have pierced our hearts like arrows.”
Sid: And what does it mean to them coming up and publicly proclaiming Jesus as their Messiah?
Gordon: And not just proclaiming that but proclaiming that they wanted baptism, that… the Hindu’s believe that there are many gods and that they have no trouble praying to Jesus as sort of adding Jesus to their list of gods. But for baptism is the one, that’s the separation point where they’re turning their back on family, they’re turning their back on whatever job or career or money or economic position or social position. They’re literallyleaving everything and they know from that point forward they will be considered outcasts and they will not have their families receive them any longer.
Sid: Hmm. And then John Jimenez had a second dream, your all set to go home and you’re glad it’s a victory it’s a success you’re happy but you’re even happier about going home. But John has another dream and he says “You’re supposed to stay, I mean I still don’t understand how you decided to stay.” I’ve never been in India but I have friends that have preached there and they said they loved the results but they hate that level standard of living way out. I mean how many hour train ride did you take to get to this city?
Gordon: Twelve hours, 12 hours.
Sid: So, how could you stay?
Gordon: It was that Hindu couple that… I knew something was going on that I needed to stay to find out what that was.
Sid: Now, did you have a whole series of meetings planned after you left or what was your itinerary like?
Gordon: All the meetings were over, there was no agenda, there was nothing really to do other than to sit there and wait. Keep in mind I’m still a partner in a law firm that I got this case load that is kind of gnawing at me.
Sid: I wonder what the telegram was like or the phone call when you informed your partners on what you were doing.
Gordon: Oh, that’s another interesting story.
Sid: Or your wife. (Laughing)
Gordon: My wife was tougher, but I think Kathryn was prepared at one of the few things I did in sort of my rebellious backsliding years. One of the best decisions I made was I needed to marry a Christian and needed to have that in my life. And so she was a Christian and so for her hearing me say the wild tales of preaching in front of large crowds was I mean it was unusual for her but at the same time was an answer to her prayer.
Sid: One night you’re in India and they were having this huge Hindu festival but actually God woke you up. Tell me what happened.
Gordon: Well the day that I waved goodbye to John Jimenez at the train station and then went back to the hotel and literally I did not know what I was supposed to do. I mean I’m there with a man I’ve known for all of a week who’s from Fiji and we’re sharing a room in a $15 a night Indian hotel. And I’m kind of wondering if I’d completely lost my mind. And that night the very night that John left there was this big Hindu festival to Shiva the god of destruction and I woke up at 3:00 in the morning. I did not know that it was 3:00 in the morning I thought it was getting close to dawn. And I didn’t want to disturb Sesil so I decided to walk outside and see what was around the city. Because there was no agenda for that day so let’s go explore. It’s the middle of the night and it’s the middle of this big Hindu festival and it’s down by what they call the River Ghat which is the river temple where they offer sacrifices to the God Shiva. And it’s like I’ve taken a step back in time. Growing up in Virginia I’ve never seen idolatry, I’ve never seen people bow down to stone and wood, we just don’t have that here. And here at this river temple it’s like a whole town had turned out and you know the crowd at this river temple made 15,000 that showed up at our little gospel meeting seem small by comparison. And there were professions and drums and pipes and big clouds of incense coming up, and people whirling like whirling dervishes. And it was just this chaotic scene as they went down to the river to offer sacrifice to Shiva who they think dwelt in the river. During this I prayed “Lord, do you want me to be here?” And got a very firm answer “Yes, I do.” Then I wanted to make sure, will you protect me in the middle of this?” And he said “Yes, I will.” And I walked in to the temple god area.
Sid: Gordon I have to ask you “Were you used to getting this type of communication from God?”
Gordon: Well it had been awhile but because my father was very careful when I was growing up to make sure I knew the voice of the Lord. I had some very dramatic encounters with the Lord when I was young, and sort of once you know that you never forget it.
Sid: Tell me the most dramatic, just briefly when you were young.
Gordon: I was 12 years old I was caught up in a cloud, I read the verse “The eyes of the Lord go to and fro over the whole earth to show Himself strong for those who hearts are loyal to Him.” Prayed a very simple prayer, sort of a challenging prayer for a 12 year old, I said “Lord, if you show me Your power I will serve You.” And I spent the next 3 hours flat on the ground completely motionless, unable to move, unable to walk, but in my senses I was just in this white cloud. I didn’t know that there was a scriptural significance to white clouds of glory but when I was 12 I know it now. But God answered that prayer very dramatically and very quickly. I was up in Ohio in a small church and my family literally had to carry me out of there. (Laughing). And yeah that was a dramatic one.
Sid: So when you see things that happened in the Brownsville Revival and the Toronto Airport Church that’s not so strange for you.
Gordon: No, I mean there are different manifestations, I haven’t had all of the manifestations that say Brownsville has, but I can’t say you ever get used to it. But I know it and once you know that, once you know the voice of the Lord, once you’ve experienced that you know there’s no counterfeit that substitute, there’s something unbelievable to it. But even these childhood experiences didn’t prepare me for what God was getting ready to show me at this temple god.
Sid: What did He show you?
Gordon: I mean a lot of what I had growing up and had been experiencing you know you read the Biblical encounters with angels and with God. You know I remember as a child being somewhat jealous of the Apostle Paul and how he was stricken on the road to Damascus and why did he get that direct revelation and I didn’t. And here I am in this river of Ghat and I’m praying and I felt led to go into it and then once I’m in it and I’m seeing adultery and I’m reacting to that with almost with a righteous anger rising up to me “Why are you a child of God made in the image of God why are you bowing down to that thing. Why are you doing that? Then I felt led of the Lord to walk off to a separate area a rocky point that looked down at the river scene. And there it’s hard to describe any of this…
Sid: Gorgon I’m sorry, just hold that thought. Mishpochah we’ll pick up on tomorrow’s broadcast.