Sid:  My guest is Kerry Kirkwood, we’re talking about worship and on yesterday’s broadcast you were talking about worship literally create a habitation, a dwelling place for God; would you finish that thought?

Kerry:  Well, when we worship and again that worship is to bow, to kiss, to love, to adore, so it’s not just listening to worship music.  But as you begin to worship the Lord then the presence of God overshadows and light destroys darkness and as we worship the Lord then that creates a light habitation, a light of Glory and it pushes back the darkness.  You can worship in the home and you can worship around the neighborhood and it begins to set a parameter against the enemy because worship is a very thing that Lucifer wanted to have but he couldn’t have.  And so we the saints of God are the redeemed to the Lord and we carry the song of the redeemed that no one else can sing and so when we worship the Lord we literally magnify the Lord and then everything else has to shrink and come under the submission of His presence.

Sid:  I’ve see so many people that go through tragedy in their life such as a wife whose husband has died and they grieve for weeks, months, even years. How would worship help them?

Kerry:  Well, I remember one particular woman that had lost a close family relative and they couldn’t get past it and she was asking God why and just all of the reasoning and you know blaming one thing and how the devil get in and all that thing.  And so in a worship time where that the Holy Spirit just took her to where He was showing her how to worship the Father, loving Him, trusting God and at that moment she was caught up into the glory of God in such a way, and she could see by revelation that family member that she had been grieving over wasn’t grieving at all but they were enjoying the very presence of God.  That she got a small glimpse of in worship. In a moment of grieving before that and after a moment of worship she was completely set free and never did carry that heavy thing again that feeling of just rejection and why me God?

Sid:  And tell me real briefly about the young kid that was delivered of the demonic that was sticking his tongue out?

Kerry:  Oh yeah it was in a counseling session and the whole family was in there and they couldn’t deal with them, of course the husband was cursing the mother, the mother the dad, I mean it was just a whole just convoluted mess that as a counselor I couldn’t wrap my brain around what was going on, and I was confused.  I mean I had felt that the demonic presence there and all I could do was just start singing the song of the Lord.  “Lord Your worthy of all praise, I bless Your name, there’s none greater than you oh Lord God, who is like unto You in tall the earth; blessings and honor and praise oh God.”  And as I started singing that song it just like cold water fell on them and extinguished that anger, then they just kind of set there. I don’t know if they were kind of stunned at me or I don’t know what was happening but that demonic presence left and then I could begin to share with them out of the word what was the problem, but it was the presence of God that drew that thing out of there.  Much like David as a young harpist when Saul had that demonic that spirit that came from the Lord that was just tormenting him and that David began to play and that spirit lifted.  And so worship can lift that thing off of a person like nothing else can.

Sid:  I want you to tell me A-B-C for someone listening, they want to get up early every day and worship God; give me some steps.

Kerry:  I think what’s the easiest part is that we start by just we call praise. Praise is simply that way of saying I’m just thanking the Lord for bringing into remembrance of things that God has done over my life you know salvation, is such a great place of thanking the Lord.  And I thank You Lord for my health, I thank You for the times of healing and as you begin to do that the Holy Spirit kicks in.  I mean kicks in I mean now the anointing because you’ve invited the Holy Spirit to join you in the your temple, your spiritual temple there. Now He can worship through you and He begins just whisper things.  “Hey say it like this, and here’s something you honor the Lord.”  And the next thing is there will be scriptures to you and when we use the scriptures to speak back to the Lord Himself and it moves from just thanking Him for what He’s done.  Now it’s worship is loving on Him, not about what He’s done or what He’s going to do but just loving Him for who He is.  Whereas Isaiah came in the temple, in Isaiah 6, and he said, “The presence, the glory of God filled, that His train filled the temple.”  And then he said he saw the glory of God, it wasn’t in focus what hadn’t been happen or what need to happen but it was just simply the focal attention was on the goodness and the greatness of God.  And so when we become overwhelmed by that there’s something that then we’re anointed to worship, we’re no longer trying to just you know come out of a routine or a rote of what we should say to Him but now we’re anointed to worship.  We’re saying things about Him and loving Him and adoring Him in ways that we never thought before because we’re not anointed to worship, not just appointed to worship.  There’s people that are appointed to worship like music leaders and worshipper and that, they’re appointed, but when they get anointed it kicks into a whole other level and the Spirit of God, the moving in the Holy Spirit starts happening, people are healed, demons are driven out because at the very presence of God no unclean thing shall be able to stay there.  I’ve seen people get so uncomfortable in that kind of setting where they could hardly stand it because He comes and sets among us and works with us.  And then as we begin to worship then I would just have a dialog with the Lord and just write down some things.  What is He saying back to you? Because He’s not only hearing what you say to Him but now He says some things back to you.  You begin to capture the thought into your mind because in that setting of worship He begins to say things that are out of this world.  He begins to give you creative ideas, he may say things about you that heal your heart to say “You know that time that when you were rejected,” He said, “Let me just put my hand on that heal that hurt.”  And so those kind of things happening just in that one on one time during the day.

Sid:    Tell me about; speak just a little bit towards declaring God’s attributes why that’s so important.

Kerry:  Because the ancients believed those Old Testament writers they saw that whatever they declared His Name to be that God manifested Himself in that way.  Like when they declared Himself to be Jehovah Rophe, “You are the Lord thy God who heals me,” then He would declare Himself in that way.  Or You are Jehovah Shema “You’re the Lord God who is with me now, You are the present with me.”  So when they would begin to worship him as those names are, then He would manifest and interact with them in the same way.

Sid:  I think I would like to take the next few minutes and have you worship God as if you were alone, what would you be doing Kerry?

Kerry:  Well, I would have a picture of the Lord and I have this picture many times out of Revelation 11 that I begin with.  And it says “There was given a measuring rod” to John and someone said, this is the angel saying to him “Rise up and measure the temple of God and the altar and those who worship in it.  Leave out the outer court which is outside the temple and do not measure it for it has been given to the nations.”  Which we believe Joel 3 says “The nations that try to divide Israel’s land, don’t even measure them, they’re not part of this covenant.”  And so when I see that the Lord is measuring me as a worshipper and He measurers me for the idea of wanting to add to me; do you have the capacity for Me to pour in?  So when that happens I just start thinking of Him and I just start declaring unto Him.  [Singing] “There’s none like You oh Lord my God in all the earth who does wondrous things, blessing and honor and glory to You who sets on the throne.  You’ve provided a table in Your presence, a table for me in the midst of my enemies. I will eat, I will rejoice, I will see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the living. You’re my God and King, I bow my heart before You for there’s none other that does what You do; oh I’m waiting, I’m longing, I’m looking for that shout when You say Your returning for me, Your returning for me and I have that marriage supper, I can eat the supper with lamb and communion with You oh Lord My God. For worthy, worthy is the Lord most High who keeps covenant and mercy with me.  I bow and say to You, Come quickly Lord Jesus, I long, I love, I desire for You.”

Sid:  Kerry Kirkwood we’re talking about worship and I’m reminded I believe it’s in Romans 9 and it says we owe a debt of gratitude to the Jewish people because in most Bible translations it says because of them is the service, but that word service means the worship.

Kerry:  Yes.

Sid:  And out of curiosity take us back what was original worship like of the first people that understood to worship God what was that like?

Kerry:  Well, they weren’t worshipping to get something they were worshipping because they had revelation of Him.

Sid:  The whole thing has been reversed, He’s the give me God.

Kerry:  Exactly in other words if I worship God then He’s going to give something.  Just like with the tithes and the offerings, people teach so much oh, if you give this then God will give that but yet with 2^nd Corinthian’s 9 it is God who gives seed to the sower.  And if we see that worship is like seed, then worship comes from the Father and He gives it to us so that we can sow it back into the heavenliest and then out of that relationship there are a lot of good things to come.  But if we worship with the idea of getting something it’s like our minds and heart is upon what we’re getting and not setting our affections on things above instead we’re setting it on things on the earth.  And so it’s no longer a thing to where we have to coax people to worship, it’s be the Spirit of the Lord leading us into worship.

Sid:  Now this was before we had all these Levitical choirs and musical instruments and temple worship, it was just “God You’re so magnificent I can’t help but worship You!”

Kerry:  Yes, yes.  Well they sang what was called the song of the Lord, Psalms 98 says “Sing unto a new song and it was the Hallel, which means to give a spontaneous song that had never been written.  So it would be a song of the Lord that people, there was no music, there was none written on lead sheets, there was no notes, it was simply as the song of the Lord came up out of their heart and they were singing a love song to the Lord.  And so worship was not something that people sat in a church and just watched somebody else sing for them and it was not done for them as an observer, but it was an engagement between the bridegroom and the bride of singing back and forth and dialoging, loving one another.

Sid:  You told me before we went on the air, that literally God marks worshippers, explain that.

Kerry:  Yes He does. I can give you the parable there in Matthew the 22^nd chapter when Jesus is giving the parable of the wedding feast. He’s talking about those that rejected Him and so on like that, then he went out and gathered everybody up. There’s one comes in after the King comes down and he’s overlooking the wedding guest and sees a man without a wedding garment and he sees him and he says, “Friend how come you came in here without a wedding garment?”  Well, from our perspective, a non-Jewish perspective, is that we see that sometimes how ungrateful you invited him and then you don’t like the way he’s dressed.  But the culture then, every Jew would understand that was that when a king gave a wedding reception that the attendance at the door would give them a wedding garment and they would put the wedding garment over the clothes that they had wore so that everyone in there had this same identity.  And usually on that wedding garment there was like we would say today like a coat of arms or there was an identity that spoke of who the king was and how great he was and how his conquering quests and all of that.  So everyone in there that was to attend to the feast that had this wedding garment on was there to honor for his son.  But this one guy says “I want to come in, I want the feast that you have, I want all the things that you provide for me, I want the protection that every king would provide for people living under his domain.  But I do not want your identity; I do not want to wear your garment.”  And yet we see in Isaiah 61 where one of the things of the Messianic prophecy is when “The Spirit of the Lord is upon me and He has anointed me,” and you go down to where He says, “to bind up the broken hearted and proclaim the year of jubilee.” Then He says, ”to give a garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness.”  And so that garment of praise as I believe is that wedding garment that identifies us as a worshipper.  So when we are worshippers there’s an identifying mark upon us that says that “I belong to him; I identify with His kingdom; I identify with everything that He does and His authority and by me worshipping that means that I’m bowing and giving my authority to Him.”  And bowing is an issue that is huge because when Jesus there in Matthew the 4^th chapter was led up into the high place and there He confronted satan himself.  And with the last test of that was that satan said to Jesus “I’ll give you all of this that you see if you’ll not just worship me but if You will bow down.”  Because bowing means to relinquish ones authority and it’s a high level of submission.

Sid:  But we don’t see that today anywhere, we don’t see Christians bowing down, if anything we see the opposite.

Kerry:  Oh yeah, arms folded, hands in pocket.

Sid:  Right.

Kerry:  Which means I’m here just to observe, I’m here just to see.

Sid:  How does what you’re teaching about having a sign as a worshipper fit in the parable of the five wise virgins and the five foolish; the wise had oil.

Kerry:  Yes and when it came time because they were all waiting for the celebration or the shout that the bridegroom comes.

Sid:  Is shout part of worship?

Kerry:  Yes, it is “Shout unto the Lord with a voice of triumph.”  The Bible says “The shout of a King is in your midst.”  And so when we shout to the Lord it is a sound of victory that the Holy Spirit will move upon us. See if we’re in churches and places to where it says we have to be reverential and quiet because this is what the Lord wants.  No, it isn’t!  Read the Bible the Bible is a worship book, it’s all about worshipping the Lamb of God, worshipping the Son of God.

Sid:  Okay, go back to the five wise virgins, how did they get their oil, they went out and they bought it, but what does that mean to you?

Kerry:  Well, it means the fact that there was some effort put into it, remember that the foolish after they’d all used up their oil the only difference between those ten were that the wise carried oil in another vessel. So it wasn’t about I’m just going to when this is used up and that’s it; but they carried enough.  Worshippers are having a replenishing of that, so it says “You have to go and buy oil for yourself.”  There are some things that we can’t get from anybody else but we have to go get it ourselves.

Sid:  So we can’t have someone else like our paid worship leader do the worshipping for us.

Kerry:  Exactly, that’s my point totally. If you only watch someone worship then that doesn’t make you a worshipper and the old silly joke is that “No more than setting in a garage makes you a car.”  Attending a church doesn’t make you a worshipper, it’s the revelation that you have about Him, and that invokes that Spirit of Worship which means dancing, shouting, you know clapping of the hands.

Sid:  Tell me about joy because you say that’s one of the benefits of worship, why is joy so important?

Kerry:  Well, joy is not an emotion or feeling like most people think, that’s happiness.  Happiness is based upon what’s happening around me.  People are happy they got a raise and then their sad when they lose it, but joy is a constant because it comes from the Lord.  It’s the joy of the Lord, not the joy for the Lord, in other words the very nature of God is joy, “The Kingdom of God is not meat and drink but righteousness, peace and joy,” that’s what it says in Roman’s 14.  So part of the kingdom of God is joy and joy means to rejoin yourself, have revelation with God, join Him and I see what He sees and then I have joy, it comes out of our Spirit not of our mind which is happiness and emotion.  So I can be going through great trials and testings and still have joy because as a worshipper God gives us that sense of joy no matter what’s happening at the moment.

Sid:  You know you do teaching on the 91^st Psalm about not knowing terror, explain that.

Kerry:  Well when He says that the shadow, the overshadowing of the Almighty that’s that presence of God that a worshipper walks in.  Now just when we’re in a church service but we walk in a regular basis because we’re now like the Ark of the Covenant, we are the Ark of the Covenant because now He dwells in us not in just in boxes that are covered by gold.  And so by that we carry worship, we’re carriers and couriers of worship. So that means as we continually refresh that oil that we talked about continually honor and bless Him on a daily basis there is a covering over our lives that the enemy can’t find us there.

Sid:  You know there’s a Hebrew word that’s kavod, it’s a heavy presence of God that when that happens to me I don’t bow down before because it’s my desire to worship, I’m almost pushed down by the heaviness  of God.

Kerry:  Exactly, in other words that’s the presence of God the Glory of God is that word which is so overwhelming that it’s the physical part of us that we can’t even stand.  That’s what happened when they were dedicating the temple at the presence of God that the kavod of God came upon them where the Bible says that the priests couldn’t even stand up to minister they’re physical abilities couldn’t resist what was happening in the presence of God.

Sid:  You say that worship creates a habitation for God, what do you mean by that?

Kerry:  Well, I think a habitation meaning an environment, a place we live in.

Sid:  Whoa, how would you like the environment of the Garden of Eden in your house, in your car, wherever you go; you can take worship wherever you go but you need to learn why and how.

Sid:  My guest Kerry Kirkwood is talking about something that when someone is discipled that should have been the first thing that they learned, how to be a worshipper of God. We’ve gotten so distracted, and as Kerry likes to say, “Worship is not the thing that happens somewhere just before the announcement and the message on a Sunday morning; worship is a lifestyle.”  And so I said to Kerry, “Kerry, teach me worship like the book where you study different aspects of the computer for dummies, let’s do a worship for dummies.”  And you started out saying about the Hebrew meaning behind lifting up holy hands. But let’s start at the basic, someone goes into their living room it’s early in the morning and they want to worship God what should they do?

Kerry:  Well, first of all that the Lord is inviting them in, it’s not about the will of God and you just lay aside…

Sid:  So you don’t feel that that’s a choice as much as a call.

Kerry:  Exactly because He’s calling us into that, and as I said earlier like Esther came before the king but then it was the King extending the scepter that says “Come on in here Esther,” and there when she was before him she caught his heart and attention there was the love that drew her in there the king had for her.  And then after that she could begin to as we celebrate Purim she could tell about the plot that was against her people and so on like that.

Sid:  But she had a choice she had free will she did not have to go to the king for him to hold out the scepter she could have rolled over in bed and not worshipped God.  Is that what your saying?

Kerry:  Yeah, and worship is not just only in attitude it is an expression; Hebrews 1 says, “That Jesus is the express image of the Father.”  And yet we find that Jesus worshipped, He would get along in the garden and He would worship and He would always be telling teaching the disciples that we’re to worship the Lord God with all of our heart, mind and strength.  And so we know that involves physical expression, it involves a heart expression, it involves a spiritual expression.

Sid:  Speaking of a physical expression tell me about the time you were at a meeting of young people and you felt the Lord asked you to dance.  Are you a dancer?

Kerry:  Ha-ha, well know I don’t have much rhythm at all and so for me to do that it was definitely a sacrifice.

Sid:  Tell me about it.

Kerry:  I was in a youth camp and I was one of one them I was probably seventeen tp eighteen years old, and I was like most everybody else I was enjoying the music because the music was good, and I was more of an observer at that because I just loved to listen to what they were doing.  And I felt the overwhelming sense of the love of God just flood my heart and I felt t he prompting of the Lord and mind and He said, “I want you to dance before me like David did when the Arc of the Covenant was being brought into Jerusalem and David danced with the idea that it didn’t matter who saw him or what.”

Sid:  That had to be terrific peer pressure against you doing that!

Kerry:  Oh yeah, because these kids around me and some of them you know looked totally out of it and so I said, “I will do it Lord, I will do it for You.”  And so I just stepped out kind of in the aisles there and started dancing.

Sid:  Did you close your eyes, tell me the truth?

Kerry:  No, I didn’t, I kept…

Sid:  Oh, you’re a brave soul.

Kerry:  My eyes open because I didn’t want to ran over something so I didn’t have to what some people call, “Dancing in the Spirit.”  Was I totally in the Spirit I don’t know, I felt the prompting of the Holy Spirit, but I was totally my own will and choice that I did because I wanted to bless the Lord.  And when I started doing it, I mean these young people probably about 150 of them, when they saw that first of all they thought a little strange.  Then gradually something begin to come over them and they began, different ones, one at a time, started doing that. The whole meeting changed to where it moved from observing worship, to where that we were a sound, that we were an instrument like the Holy Spirit blowing the strings upon our heart or blowing the trumpet through our own mouth that we became an instrument touched by the Spirit of God.

Sid:  So as you talked about raising hands, dancing is that all part of worship for dummies?

Kerry:  Well, yeah those are expressions, it sure is and in fact we can find in scripture where that about the clapping of the hands, “He teaches my hands to war and my fingers to fight.  And so we find even in the Old Testament times that they would even clap their hands as a gesture towards the enemy, the part of worship…

Sid:  What do you mean a gesture towards their enemy?

Kerry:  Well, they would clap their hands like at their enemy like the way of not clapping for them it was a gesture of saying “That we have power and authority over you.”  The kind like they threw the shoe at President Bush you know as a…

Sid:  So it’s almost mocking the enemy.

Kerry:  Exactly yes, there you go.

Sid:  Awe, I’m going to do a lot of clapping for now on but go ahead.

Kerry:  So clapping is much more than…

Sid:  As a matter of fact let’s just do that right now.  [Clapping] I don’t want to miss this wonderful opportunity to worship God and mock the enemy.  Okay Kerry go ahead I just couldn’t resist.

Kerry:  Well, the Bible which talks about, as you remember Jehoshaphat and he was coming out, and the enemies were coming against them. God told Jehoshaphat very unconventional it’s not the typical warfare how they’d all line up and have spear and shield.  But he says I want you to put the singers and the worshippers up front, and you can go back in that see that part of that was the processional of dancers and those that had thanked and praised and blessed and honored the Lord.  So here they’re marching in front of the army and worshipping and thanking the Lord for what He’s done and what He’s going to do. They’re dancing before the Lord, and enemy sees him coming at them, what at these people doing?  And don’t they know what we’re going to do and don’t they know what we’re going to do to them?  But when they did that they honored the Lord first then the Bible says God set ambushments against the enemy and kill one another.  So worship is an extension of a strategy of the Spirit of God that says that we can confront our enemies not by focusing on them but by focusing on God.  When we exalt the name of the Lord then He comes and He’ll deal with our enemies because we’re not dealing with flesh and blood, were dealing with principalities and powers in the air.  And the very issue in heaven was over worship when Lucifer who wanted worship to be directed towards him and because of the pride in his heart was cast out of heaven.  And you can find in revelation that where the last war is going to be over the issue of worship; the first and the last war.  We even see that there will be worshippers of the beast that are being marked, we call the mark of the beast and so they’re being marked.  And so worship is not just an issue well, I like the song and I like the singing and if they don’t sing the song I like I’m not going to worship.  Well that means that we don’t understand what worship is when we have revelation, and what He’s done in our life there’s something that comes up our of us that’s holy and the byproduct of that is that is that He’ll cause our enemies to have to step aside.

Sid:  Tell me about how worship affects peoples’ finances, give me a story.

Kerry:  Well, I can tell you a number of times over the years that my wife Diane and I when we would have a financial need. Instead of jus,t you know looking at the problem and rehearsing the problem, over and over, we would just start worshipping the Lord God. One of the compound names for God is that he is Jehovah Jireh we would say in Texas, Jirah

Sid:  It’s really in Hebrew Yireh but I’ll let you do the Texas twang. Go ahead.

Kerry:  We sing Jehovah Yireh, He is the Lord God who is our provider which was a name that when Abraham was walking up there to offer his son Isaac he declared that the Lord God is going to provide for us.  And so we would start worshipping the Lord, “Oh Father You are the Lord our God who neither slumbers nor sleeps who keeps your covenant promise, we exalt You and worship You oh God You are the Lord of Hosts so we just declare You are our provider.”  And it’s amazing without mentioning needs to anyone we would just get checks in the mail of people would say, “I was just thinking of you the other day and the Lord just put on my heart and write a check.”  And so when we look to Him as the Author and the Finisher of our faith instead of looking for someone else to be our source and resource because that means we worship or we honor them.  But when we give the Lord the First Fruits, the first rights to the problem, the first rights to worshipping and honoring Him, then someway or other He miraculously comes in because He has an ear to those who are worshippers of Him.

SID: Hello. Sid Roth here with Corey Russell. What an amazing, amazing supernatural gift. Because shortly after Corey had this encounter with God, half the high school becomes, would you say that they didn’t become nominal Bible believers, but they were literally normal? That’s the word I like. Were they normal according to the Bible?

COREY: They were normal according to the Bible. They got lit on fire.

SID: But then someone prayed for you and you started speaking in supernatural languages. Tell me about that. I’m curious.

COREY: Yeah. Because not only did half the high school get saved, but a local church began to host meetings every week. We would have five meetings until three in the morning and God would just break in. As He was breaking in, in one of those early meetings I remember some old lady praying for me. I fall back.

SID: Wait a second. This gift that Corey received, that he’s about ready to tell you, he says a hundred out of a hundred times, you heard me, a hundred out of a hundred times when this gift is properly used, he says, depression, fear, hopelessness, even resurrection from the dead has occurred with this particular gift. Now again, tell me what was going on.

COREY: Totally. This lady prayed for me.

Woman: Son, son, let me pray for me. In Jesus’ name, I pray for you. I pray for you in Jesus’ name.

COREY: I fall out and this language is coming out of me.

SID: You fall out. The reason he falls over backwards is he can’t stand.

COREY: Totally.

SID: That’s the only reason.

COREY: I mean, you read the Bible. Any time anybody comes in the presence of God they’re going to, something is going to respond. And so I begin, this language comes out of me. And from that moment I begin to connect , every time that I prayed in this language, I felt closer to Jesus. It was that simple. I felt closer to Jesus when I prayed in this language. And so I gave myself to it in those first six months, first years, just gave myself to it. Every time that I did I felt closer to Jesus. That was the initial thing that got me hooked to the reality of praying in this supernatural language.

SID: But today you’re a leader with the IHOP, International House of Prayer organization, and he prays something like, according to my notes, 30 hours a week.

COREY: Totally.

SID: That’s a lot of prayer. And he told me something that is so wonderful. This supernatural language, as Paul said, I pray in supernatural languages more than any man. Why is it when some people get this language they don’t do what you told them? They pray for the first month like that, maybe, maybe. Or they may even pray for the first day like that and then they stop. Why do they stop?

COREY: Totally. Well I think we have to go back to that passage. The apostle Paul, I mean, we got to just stop for a second. The man who pretty much wrote the whole New Testament, the man who has done more for Christianity than just like anybody else, the man whose character of Christ, the power of Christ, the love of Christ, no man exemplified Christ like this man. And this man gave us the clearest doorway into his devotional life by saying, “I thank my God that I speak in this supernatural language more than anybody else.” That right there is a doorway into the realm of the supernatural. I tell you what I think it is. I think we treat this gift, this power of this gift like we do so many other things in Christianity. We treat it like a badge. Either you have it or you don’t, and once you experience it one time we treat it like a badge on our coats that we walk around with some kind of sense that we’ve arrived or we have everything that God has, fully misunderstanding that it’s actually a gateway into the realm of the supernatural. We stop it. We treat His gift and now use it as a sense that we’ve arrived. And it’s such a travesty, Sid.

SID: I agree with you. What are the advantages of doing what Paul did? What have you seen is the advantage?

COREY: Paul tells us in First Corinthians 14, he says that, “When I speak in this language,” he goes, “I’m not speaking to men, I’m not speaking to devils, but I’m speaking straight to the throne room of God.” I have a spirit to spirit contact and connect with the Father of Glory, the President of the Universe. I have a direct phone line by my spirit to His, and that when I pray in this language I’m talking directly to Him. That’s number one. Number two, the Bible says that we speak mysteries out of our spirit straight to God. These mysteries are hidden truths, not hidden from us, but hidden for us. Truths about God, truths about who He is and what He’s like, and what He’s doing, and how He feels, truths about us, truths about who we are to Him, about our destiny. I believe that when I’m praying in this language I’m prophesying my Divine destiny. And I believe that when I—

SID: By the way, I can tell you as a fact that when I was a brand new believer in the Messiah and I prayed for hours and fasted, and hours and hours in supernatural language, and what you’re seeing today is because I was speaking into the atmosphere what God had for me. But you know what? You said something that was so, to me, I mean, as a believer, that’s changed my whole paradigm for praying in supernatural languages. So you listen and listen well. When most people pray in this supernatural language, they’re praying into the atmosphere, into the air. And that’s good. But that’s not a focus. Tell me what you do.

COREY: I have found, because I found that many times we get distracted, we lose focus, a lot of times people quit because we just think we’re talking into the air. We just, we’re talking to the air. But the Bible tells us we talk to God. So what I love to do is that when I’m praying in the Holy Spirit, when I’m praying in this language, I picture in my mind’s eye, Revelation 4, God sitting on the throne, shining in glorious light, burning like fire, a rainbow surrounding it, lightening and thundering breaking out. And I stand on that sea of glass with my mind’s eye and I speak straight to the heartbeat of Heaven. I will either picture Him on the throne or I’ll picture the Holy Spirit living on the inside of me.

SID: Because Paul says in the new covenant, when we speak, we’re speaking mysteries to God.

COREY: That’s right.

SID: So what I find is I just started doing this, I can see Jesus in front of me. In fact, I do it at my desk and the chair opposite, like where Corey is right now, I’m speaking to the Messiah and he smiles at me, and I’m pouring my heart out. And I’m talking to him. I’m no longer speaking there. Corey has a friend that spoke in the supernatural language and someone came back to life. Very quickly, tell me.

COREY: A friend of mine was in Bolivia to where they were being taught about the power of praying in the Holy Spirit, praying in this language. He was a worker, he was a farmer and one day his co-worker didn’t come to work. He went to his house at the end of the day, began to smell a stench from his room. Walked in the door and his friend had hung himself.

Man: Oh my god!

COREY: All he knew was this language. He took him down from the rope and laid him on the ground, and began to pray in this language for hours and hours, and hours. After so many hours a praise came out of him, “Jesus, I thank you that you are alive. Jesus, I thank you that you are alive.” After a while the friend sat up. He still wasn’t breathing, but he began to sit up, and the guy continued to pray in the language. After so many hours, the man received breath again, received life again, got saved, met the Holy Spirit and began to pray in the language himself. And it was by that simple farmer that took God at His word and created that atmosphere of resurrection.

SID: You know, Paul says that when you pray these supernatural languages you edify yourself. And in the Greek the word “edify” means you like charge your battery. And all the gifts of the Spirit of God that God has for you are going to start coming out. Don’t go away because a if you’ve never prayed in this language, you are going to. I tell you, you are going to. And if you have prayed in this language you’re going to become normal. Be right back.