Sid: Now the woman that I’ve been interviewing all this week Donner Roberson sister of Pastor Dave Roberson has every reason in the world to be bitter, to be angry. As a believer to be a real legalistic believer, to just point your finger at every sin under the sun but she learned how to pray in the Spirit and she found out the same thing her brother Dave found out that when you pray in the Spirit for a long period of time the first person that your praying mysteries for and clearing problems up for yourself. Donner how in the world did you overcome the rejection in your life and because you have much and how can other overcome the rejection in their life?
Donner: Well, one when I read about Mary Magdalene and He embraced her you know and I said “My God she had devils and everything just like I did and it took hours for me of praying in the Holy Ghost, worship, meditating the word that I probably prayed more in the Spirit than I did any of the others for a long time. And then He would bring me into seasons of more seasons of worship and different things and He would show me each thing that I hadn’t let go of that I need to let go of but when He showed it to me I was able to do it. The idea of severing my relationship with my Father or Jesus was too much for me I couldn’t do that, I’d spent a whole lifetime in misery and I found something that was good, I couldn’t let go. So for me it was not an option it was learn how to forgive and I wanted to so bad but it took time to heal all those broken pieces of my heart because some people had a bad mother image or they had a bad father image and we didn’t have any image. And then you know I had no idea that people could have good relationships without abuse in it. But Jesus never abuses you, the Father loves us so much He gave His most precious commodity which was Jesus. And then if that wasn’t enough, He sent the Holy Spirit or comforter in. You see we don’t let the Holy Spirit comfort us the way we should if we spent time with Him it could heal us because He could teach us how to let go.
Sid: Tell me about some of the fruit of your ministry, you have some marvelous deliverances and physical healings but I’ll tell you the one that I think is kind of interesting is you prayed for a pregnant woman to have an easy delivery, but she got a lot more than she thought. What happened?
Donner: Well last year I prayed for her she was pregnant and at first she just come up for the allergies she had severe allergies and the Lord healed her totally right there on the spot. The eyes dried up and the nose dried up, the cough was gone but the Lord had me pray for her to have an easy delivery also. So that was last year, I came back in April and she come up to me and showed me the baby a beautiful little girl. And she said “I must tell you,” she said “When I went into labor I got the Holy Ghost laughter and she said, “I laughed all the way through the labor pains and the delivery to the point that doctor opened up the other doors so the other woman could hear her.”
Sid: Well, it does say in scripture and merry heart is good medicine but this is really pushing it to the limit.
Donner: It really is and I told them I said “So that means we can do revival that way too, we can birth it in.”
Sid: Is it true that you pray for people and they lose weight where they could not before?
Donner: Yes, I prayed for a young lady in Lafayette that was suffering with some rejection and was hurt and we prayed and we broke these things and then I prayed for her to lose weight and she started losing. She’s lost over 50 pounds. Another lady well, Kate we prayed over how the affects the meds have had on her because they get obese on them and then she’s lost over 100 pounds and I just got a letter from a lady in North Carolina that we prayed to break depression, and then I prayed over her thyroid and she said “The weights starting to come off.” But the good news is that she read my brother’s book and she’s praying more to keep these things off.
Sid: This book is so important Mishpochah…The Walk of the Holy Spirit, the Walk of Power” by Donner’s brother Dave Roberson. And it has a supernatural anointing for you to understand tongues and really want to invest the time. Because you won’t invest the time unless you understand what you’re accomplishing but there’s so much more in this and it’s not just from theory it’s from walking in the Spirit and walking in power.Speaking of walking in power tell me about that woman that was healed of five masses in her breast.
Donner: Well this lady called me and I met her at the church and I prayed for her, she said the doctor has found five masses on my breast and she said “I’m going to the hospital for further tests so would you pray with me” and I did. Now here’s the medical report from St. Francis Breast Center because this is a big fear for woman, breast cancers deadly. And it says “Thank you for choosing the St. Francis Breast Center.” We are pleased to report that no evidence of breast cancer was seen on your mammogram. Isn’t that wonderful.
Sid: I’ll tell you I’m just scanning all of these things that’s been going on, one of my intercessors the head of intercessory prayer Carol Howell was at one of your meetings in Rhodes Island where you were praying for someone that had chemical poisoning. And she said that “When you prayed for this person that people could smell the chlorine as the person was being healed.” Is that true?
Sid: I mean I know it’s true but could smell it also?
Donner: Yes, it was wonderful and not only that but about 20 people got filled with the Holy Ghost in those meetings. So now they’re all praying in tongues and have my brother’s book.
Sid: Donner there is such a sweet loving presence of God pouring out through the tape and the airwaves right now. I’m not even going to tell you what to pray for people but would you pray as the Holy Spirit shows you for those that listening right now?
Donner: Absolutely. “Oh Father, I just thank You for this opportunity to share Your goodness and your mercy and Your Son Jesus and the greatest Teacher in this universe the Holy Spirit.” Lord, I thank You that through Your tender mercies You can erase the fear that people are suffering with right now and know, let them know how much You love them. Lord I know that many of them out there are bitter and angry and full of unforgiveness, but I know that You can touch their heart. So Lord I’m asking You to move on them whether it’s emotional healing or physical healing just lost or lonely. Lord I’m I’m asking You to come in and embrace them. So Jesus I release Your glory through the airwaves, Holy Spirit I thank You for watching over all these words to perform it as only You can do. And we will just so carefully give Jesus all the praise, honor and glory because I believe that right at this minute as we’re speaking people are getting healed in their emotions, some are getting physically healed and Lord I thank you that they can see that they have a future, the they have one with You and how much You need them to share You with the lost and dying world in Jesus’ mighty Name. Amen.
Sid: Amen. I believe it because it was the word and it was the presence of God and you get those two together and that’s quite a combination. Donner in your deliverance how important was the information, actually and you did a lot of this without even reading the book. But how important is this information in your brother’s book “The Walk of the Spirit, the Walk of Power” for those that are listening right now?
Donner: I believe the information is so important that I’d buy these books my self and bring them to my meetings because people don’t understand spiritual warfare, they don’s understand that we’re in a spiritual way and this is arming them, this is helping them to go through every different level of attack that the enemy tries to do….
Sid: Tell me one of the most recent testimonies of someone that has read this book.
Donner: Well, when I was in North Carolina again I had prayed for a woman that had problem with depression and thyroid and weight and just was having a terrible time and I gave her the book and she read it and she wrote to me and said “Now she’s getting healed of all of these things, but the book has helped her so much to understand why she was going through some of the things she went through. See we can do just about anything if we have that understanding but a lot of people don’t understand how the devil attacks the mind or the emotions and so they give up and they quit.
Sid: In the studio I have Lonnie Lane who is the International Prayer co-Coordinator of the Messianic Vision. She comes from a Jewish background, and she can say every member of immediate knows Yeshua, Hebrew for Jesus. I’m Jewish, I come from a traditional background and I can say every member of my Jewish family boldly proclaims Yeshua is the Messiah. In fact, my Jewish sister and brother in-law their boldly proclaiming Yeshua is the Messiah in Israel right now because they made Aliyah. They immigrated to Israel. Now Lonnie tell me a bit about your background I find this fascinating. I wasn’t aware of it, but from a heritage viewpoint, I mean here you are a writer, you do our Shomer Newsletter which is for our intercessors; you do wonderful articles on the web about the One New Man; house congregations, but your whole heritage is writing. Explain that.
Lonnie: Well my father’s family are Levites. I was surprised he told me that after we all became believers. I said “Well how did you know that dad?” He said “His grandfather who was a rabbi told him, and his grandfather told him, etcetera” and it goes all the way back. The fascinating thing is when I looked at the family tree…
Sid: Hmm, hmm.
Lonnie: Almost everybody is a teacher in some way. We have university professors, 2 Bible teachers and math teachers, and Russian teachers, and…
Sid: So that anointing passed on from generation to generation.
Lonnie: The fascinating thing is that it appears that the gifts are without repentance. You know God gives the callings and the gifts to… even to Israel from way back and they seem to maintain. Most of the people are writers and the writers are scribes.
Sid: What are your fondest memories as a young girl of Judaism or feasts?
Lonnie: Oh, well growing up in my grandmother’s house, this would be on my mother’s side. She was an Orthodox woman who came from Russia, and she loved God with all her heart. I was always particularly fascinated with being to be with her while she was lighting the candles on Friday nights. She would whisper; she would put a little shmotel on her head, a cloth on her head, and she would whisper as she waved her hands over the candles. I was sure she knew God well enough to have this intimate conversation with Him.
Sid: Yeah, but at age 11 you determine there is no God. How did you go from that to there is no God?
Lonnie: Because I was so unhappy, I had so much confusion. There was problems in my family, my dad was having a very difficult time and I… somehow equated happiness with God. Because I was so unhappy I thought he was sort of like the tooth fairy, you have to put Him away with Santa Claus, and…
Sid: And yet a lot of non-Jews don’t understand this, but a Jewish person could say “I’m an atheist” or “I don’t believe there is a God.” Yet, we still want to be Jewish, isn’t that an amazing phenomena?
Lonnie: Oh I’m Jewish and I think the fact that I decided that there was no God was because I had such a hunger for God, and a need for God. That when there was this big hole what I thought He should have filled wasn’t filled; I decided that He probably didn’t exist. So it didn’t take away from the fact that I was culturally Jewish. I mean everything I did was Jewish; I thought like a Jew, I ate like a Jew, and you know, didn’t have any friends that weren’t Jewish.
Sid: So you married a Jewish man.
Lonnie: I married a Jewish man.
Sid: You had a child, you had several children…
Lonnie: I had 3.
Sid: But your 6 year old son came home crying one day what happened?
Lonnie: He came home crying one day, and he said “They called me a Christ killer. I don’t even know what a Christ is, and I never killed anybody.” Well this was heartbreaking because I thought we could just live our lives sort of… you know I’m a Jew, but I wasn’t really involved in it, but they made us determine that this child needed to know what Jew was, and who he really was and be in touch with his Jewish identity, if the world was going to bring this upon him.
Sid: So what type of synagogue did you join?
Lonnie: We joined a reformed synagogue.
Sid: My father used to say “Reformed that’s not even Jewish.” Then when I became a believer in Jesus he said “Reformed looks pretty good to me.” (Laughing)
Lonnie: (Laughing) My rabbi was actually Orthodox. He had been raised in strict Orthodoxy with the peyos, the long coats the whole thing. He had left it because didn’t find any reality of God in it either, but he strayed only far enough to become a rabbi, in a reformed setting.
Sid: I don’t know why Lonnie, but I’m thinking about my Orthodox rabbi that I went into the home for the aged to visit one time, and I was witnessing to him. He literally took his hand up in the air and started cursing God. I mean it was unbelievable, not Jesus, he started cursing God. He said “I’ve served you all these years and I ended up with my leg amputated” in this horrible state he was so angry with God. I don’t know why that thought crossed my mind, but I’ll never forget that if he only understood that we serve a God of love, but he didn’t understand that.
Lonnie: God is so good, but people describe the horrors to God when He is the only goodness in the world.
Sid: Did you ever have any discussions with your rabbi about God?
Lonnie: Oh we had numerous discussions about God. For one thing, he thought of God as an abstract possibility. He wasn’t sure that…
Sid: I just took a drink of water don’t do that I’m liable to choke on my water, but go ahead. (Laughing)
Lonnie: He was a wonderful man…
Sid: But the rabbi thought this. (Laughing)
Lonnie: He was highly intellectual, and just a wonderful man, but he had never had an experience with God. So when I was asking him questions like “Why can’t we hear from God?” I would go to services every Friday afternoon, I mean evening, but I would always feel this loneliness for God. I loved the Jewishness, I loved all the cultural things, and the holidays and the feasts, and all the, what we call Yiddishkite, but where was God in all of this? I was the secretary of the religious committee and we talked about educating the children, but we never discussed how they should know God. So I brought that question up once to the class, and they looked at me for a minute as if I said something really strange and then went on as if that didn’t have any significance. So God just wasn’t a part of it, but I had this longing to know why God doesn’t speak to us anymore. He spoke to Abraham, He spoke to Moses, He spoke to…
Sid: You had a great question. In my situation, I just felt God wasn’t relevant. It didn’t even dawn on me that God could even speak to us, you at least asked that question. Did you ask your rabbi?
Lonnie: I did. I figured if God is, by this time I figured that God was. He that I was mishugah, he said “That’s crazy. It’s one thing Lonnie for us to talk to God, but for us to expect God to talk to us that’s crazy.” He suggested I see a shrink because I had this abnormal desire to hear God’s voice.
Sid: Okay, so the rabbi decides to go to Israel. Was this your first trip to Israel?
Lonnie: This was my first trip to Israel.
Sid: What was going on inside of Lonnie Lane at her first trip to Israel? I know my first trip to Israel was after I became a believer in the Messiah, but what about you?
Lonnie: Well I just couldn’t wait to get there. I had a peace while I was there that I ordinarily didn’t have. As we went to all these different places it just felt like I was home, like these are my roots. As the Arab tour guide would share all these different places it wasn’t about people that used to be, or that were distant or unrelated to me. I felt as if he were talking about my very own ancestors, my very own great-grandparents. It was mine. Then I started to feel the presence of Yeshua being there…
Sid: Wait a second! Were a lot of Christians at this point coming up to you… your whole life witnessing to you about Jesus?
Lonnie: Not a one.
Sid: Not a one!
Lonnie: Not a one.
Sid: In Christian America?
Lonnie: Hmm, Christian…Well… I had known someone who had been Jewish and she had become a believer, but it never occurred to her to share with anybody else, but her peace used to draw me, I was curious.
Sid: So where did this thinking about Jesus even come from?!
Lonnie: Well we were at these different places, we went on the tour; we were Jews who went from a synagogue; I was with a rabbi from the synagogue. So went to some of the Christian places…
Sid: I tell you what hold that thought and we’ll pick up here on tomorrow’s broadcast.
Sid: Why settle for religion when you can have intimacy with the creator of the universe, there is not a close second. My guest in the studio her name is Juennine Fox, she’s from Houston, Texas. I found out on yesterday’s broadcast that her father was as heathen as a heathen could be. He was an absentee father, he was into the New Age and he was driving his car drunk with a couple of friends and he was ready to go off of a cliff and all of a sudden he realized this is it and he yelled “Jesus!” And supernaturally he got out of that car without a scratch, you said that it would crush like a coke-cola can. I mean the car itself and there was no explanation he gave his heart to God. He became a pastor, you became a PK’s kid.
Juennine: That’s right.
Sid: You were tired to people pestering you “When are you going to get saved.”
Sid: So you decided to fake it, you decided to go up say the prayer and now no one will ever bother you. She goes up and she has an encounter with Jesus and it totally transforms her life. She started studying to become an opera singer, she studied at the University of Michigan and famous opera singer in New York City was mentoring her. She was part of the Brooklyn Tabernacle Choir for 3 or 4 years, and one week she was so desperate for more of God she fasted sleep. She got up about 2:00 in the morning till 6 and she would just worship God on the seventh night what happened?
Juennine: On the 7th night around 6:00 in the morning almost time for me to go to work I felt the presence of the Holy Spirit fill my room. I looked at the wall and there was cloud. I actually saw a cloud come through the wall and it started coming toward me; it was kind of fearful because what would you do if you saw a cloud coming toward you? I knew that the Holy Spirit was there but I’ve never seen His manifest presence so revealed.
Sid: I’m reminded what my Jewish people did when on Mount Sinai saw the cloud the cloud and the thunder and they said “I don’t want to hear God’s voice anymore.”
Juennine: Right it is a fearful thing to be in the presence of a living God but He’s a holy God He’s a righteous God as well. And we’re just in awe of His glory and this cloud started to come toward me as it was a living presence. It had a mind of its own and it had a purpose and I started to move my feet toward the bed because I was getting scared I couldn’t go back any further on my bed. I’m wondering what was happening, where I mean I’m backed up against the bedpost and it started coming toward me and coming over my feet. And Sid as this cloud it was like a greenish, gray as it came over my feet my feet became hot red as if my feet were enclosed in cloves of fire and it started going over my legs. Every place where this cloud started moving on top of me I became hot until it reached my hands Sid. Because at this point by the time it came to my hands I knew that it was not going to hurt me I knew this was God, this was God. I was receiving an impartation, there was an anointing happening. And this cloud came over my hands and I turned my hands to look at them and my hands became blood red right in front of me. I literally saw my hands that were yellowish in complexion start to turn red like a lobster. You could see it becoming red and hot, hot, hot, hot, very very hot. And out of this cloud was a hand I actually felt a hand inside of the cloud take my hand as if Jesus Himself was putting His hand on my hand and He began to rub a balm a healing balm into my hand into the palm of my hand. His circular motion to my left hand and then to my right the hands of Jesus came out of that cloud and started to anoint my hands. And all of a sudden my Bible that was already open the pages started to turn without me turning them Sid. There was almost a wind, you know the Holy Spirit He’s also a wind, He’s a breath and the breath of God started to blow those pages and it turned to Luke chapter 10 and it says “Behold I’ve given you power to trend on serpents and scorpions and over all the power of the evil one and nothing shall harm you.” And I knew God was saying I’m giving you a gift, I’m giving you a gift hear and I just started praising God, praising Him and then it kept going up. Going up, up, up over my breath, over my chest over my lips and He started to anoint my lips and the Lord spoke to me in my heart and He said “I’m anointing you to preach My word and I’m anointing you to preach my word and I’m anointing you to heal the sick.”
Sid: Well, out of curiosity do you remember the first person you prayed for after receiving that anointing?
Juennine: I do, I do. I was at church about two Sunday’s later and when the anointing came my hands got really hot I prayed for this woman, I didn’t really mean to pray for her but she just came up and complained. And she said “Ah, I have a terrible backache” and I was going to say “Well, I have some aspirin in my purse.” And the Holy Spirit quickened me “No, pray for her.” And I said “Well, can I pray for you?” Boom! Out of the power of the Holy Spirit this woman falls right there on the carpet in the sanctuary and I’d never saw anyone fall under the power ever in my life. I said “What was happening” I didn’t know if she was dead.
Juennine: I was scared but she got up and she said “My back is healed.” And I said “Well, there is something to this, I was just amazed.”
Sid: And then and by the way even today are there times when your hands will get hot and you know that you’re supposed to pray for someone or do you operate through words of knowledge how does this gift of healing operate today?
Juennine: When this gift of healing first manifested it was that my hands got hot whenever God wanted me to pray for someone. As I started to exercise that gift it’s almost like when you become more mature in the Lord when God takes away some of the sign posts He takes those away because He wants you to lean more on Him by faith. So all of those guides and those you know all those aids He took them away and it was all by just obedience just Him speaking to my heart “Pray for someone, just compassion.”
Sid: Well, God took you on a journey you studied under David Wilkerson; you studied the word at the Brooklyn Tabernacle Choir, you studied with the Hunters; you studied with Billy Joe Daugherty and his Bible School. And you were just zooming with the Lord, how could you have backslid? How? I mean you know what you remind me of I have to tell you I read the Old Testament about my forefathers.
Sid: All the miracles they saw in Egypt and then before you know it they backslid. But how did you?
Juennine: Do you know they backslid because they knew His works, His wonders but they did know His ways.
Sid: And what is the difference?
Juennine: Well we can experience the wonderful anointing we can be healed we can experience God’s touch and miracles but those miracles don’t change us, they don’t teach us about God’s character and they don’t enable us to know Him more, they’re the result of His goodness you see.
Sid: You know in the 40’s there was a whole crop of evangelists and that were instantly raised up and they took their tents and they went all over the United States and they instantly had miracle gifts but most of them backslid because they weren’t mature in the Lord. And they knew nothing about walking in holiness.
Juennine: That’s right walking in holiness and walking obedience and mine was I backslid because I was not walking in obedience. My story is that after I came from Bible school I tried to preach and I got discouraged Sid I just faced what a lot of preacher’s face. Door slamming on you, your too young, you’re not ordained in the right denomination and I got discouraged. And I said in my heart Lord “I don’t know if I want to serve you anymore, this is too hard; I don’t know if I want to sacrifice two weeks a year for vacation time and work a full time job; I don’t want to have it the hard way you know.”
Sid: And then of course the devil saw fit to have a nice man enter get to know you he turned out to be Muslim.
Juennine: He turned out to be Muslim and because I had pulled away from God my heart had kind of steered away from him, I started going to a Russian computer programing school thinking that I was just going to stop ministry and do it a different way. And I met this computer programmer this teacher in my class and he started taking me out and talking about God and God’s grace had left me. I really had left God, God never really left me but I left God you see. I said, “I don’t want to serve you anymore I was bitter, I was angry because I thought I wasted my time, why did I go to Bible school things are not working out the way I want them to. And I started dating this man and he told me he wanted to marry me and take me back to Iraq. And when the grace of God leaves your life that’s when you’re really in trouble. And its by grace Sid that we’re sustained by the Holy Spirit.
Sid: Could you picture if you had followed him to Iraq what would happen to you now? But anyway, go on back.
Juennine: I was so backslidden that he said “Ah, I want to take you back to Iraq with me.” And I said “Oh, how wonderful.” You know but the Lord woke me up it was his grace that also kept me. And I really believe that when we are in God’s hands he will keep us. Nothing can snatch us out of the palm of God’s hand people were praying for me and Jesus is always standing at the right hand of the Father praying for us when we’re in times of need. And a woman was praying for me and I just woke up out of that slumber, all of a sudden I realized my goodness I’m backslidden. What am I doing dating a Muslim man getting ready to marry him, getting ready to go to his Mosque, what has happened to me?
Sid: It’s still, you know it’s hard for me to believe that someone who had seen all the things that you saw could have got in that situation. It shows you how diabolical the devil is but…
Juennine: It was hard for me to believe too Sid but I cried all night when I realized that I had forsaken Jesus, I felt like Peter.
Sid: Hold that thought we’ll pick up right here on tomorrow’s broadcast. Juennine has a special teaching CD it really is a key to breakthrough in your life you’ve heard, that’s not up not using it as a trite phrase, I’m using it as a mentor item, because when you understand how God can use your thought life or the devil can used your thought life, an your imagination and when you get these areas lined up according to the word of God you begin to hear God’s voice, you begin to be a vessel able to be used by God.
Sid: You know what while I’m talking to you God’s talking to me and He’s telling me that this project the teaching that I’m going to be doing for the next few weeks or so is so important to his heart, please listen and take heed to what the Spirit of God is saying because this is the set time to favor Zion.
Now I said on yesterday’s broadcast that when you follow the law of evangelism that God followed, that Jesus followed, that Paul followed it results in the greatest Gentile revival. And what is the law of evangelism? Reach out to the Jew first, walk right into, in fact, bump right into Genesis 12:3 which God says “I God will bless those who bless the Jewish people, I God will curse those who curse them.” And so when you bless the Jewish person with the greatest blessing imaginable salvation your family gets saved, your loved ones get saved, multitudes millions of Gentiles will get saved by investing the law of evangelism the way God did it, Jesus did, and Paul did it from the Bible. But then Amos the 9th chapter verse 11 and 13 tell us “That on that day I God will raise up the Tabernacle of David.” What is the Tabernacle of David? We know what that is, it’s a place where David worshiped God from but is there a hidden reading that if you were Jewish and understood Hebrew and lived back then you would have understood, yes, there is, the word tabernacle in the Hebrew means house or family. So what is God saying “On that day I will raise up the family of David.” Who’s the family of David? The Jewish people and then verse 13 “Behold the days are coming says the Lord when the plowman shall overtake the reaper and the treader of grapes, him who sows seed.” In other words the harvest will be so great that next year you’ll go for the harvest and you will not have been able to pick all the fruit, all the souls that are being saved. The churches will not be large enough for the harvest that’s going to happen. When is it going to happen? When the Tabernacle of David is restored. What is the Tabernacle of David? The family of David, who is the family of David? The Jewish people, so when you reach out to a Jewish person you are speeding up the restoration of the Tabernacle of David which will spark the One New Man Jew and Gentile; one in Jesus which will spark, be the catalyst for a revival like the world has never seen before. And if that’s not enough for you did you know that Jesus will not return until the Jewish people are saved? A lot of people miss understand this, but it’s real simple to me Matthew 23:29. Jesus speaking “For I say to you, you shall see no more till you say,” and He’s speaking to the Jewish people Till the Jewish people say “Baruch haba b’Shem Adonai. Blessed is He who comes in the Name of the Lord.” And some people deceived people say “Yes, but the Jews are just like any other nation right now they’re not still called.” Well, I refer you to the book of Roman’s Chapter 11 verse 28 and 29 real clear. “Concerning the gospel they are enemies… the Jewish people, for your sake but concerning the election they are beloved for the sake of the fathers; for the gift and calling of God are irrevocable.” That’s God’s word, so don’t you say God is finished with the Jewish people because God says “The gift and calling of God,” why for the sake of the father. Who are the fathers? Abraham, Isaac and Jacob; we’ll get into that in a little while, they’re irrevocable. And then someone actually raised the objection last week with me they said “Wait a second, Paul himself stopped witnessing to the Jewish people.” And he pulled out Acts 18 verse 6-8 and this is what he said “But when they,” that’s the Jewish people opposed him that’s Paul… so when the Jewish people opposed Paul and blasphemed him he shook his garments and said to the Jewish people “Your blood be upon your own heads, I am clean from now on I will go to the Gentiles.” You should keep reading the next verse he moves into a house next door to the synagogue and next thing we know the head of the synagogue gets saved and there’s a revival upon the Jewish people in that city. And if that’s not enough that was Acts 18 just go to the next chapter Acts 19 verse 8 “And Paul” that’s he “went into the synagogue and went into the synagogue when he says “For now on I’m going to the Gentiles.” I guess maybe the Gentiles were all in the synagogue, no they were Jews. For he went into the synagogue and he spoke boldly for three months, hows that for a revival? A three month revival in the synagogue reasoning and persuading concerning the things of the Kingdom of God. So don’t give me that excuse.
What about this “Are Jewish people saved because their under the Old Covenant? Well, I have to refer you to Acts 4 verse 12 “Nor is there salvation in any other for there is no other name under Heaven given among men by which we must be saved.” So there is…and what’s the reason for that? If we were saved under the Old Covenant we’d have to have the temple, we’d have to have the sacrificial system of animals because the book of Leviticus Chapter 17 verse 11 says “I’ve given the blood upon the altar as atonement for sin.” It is the blood that makes atonement for sin. Well, God didn’t want the blood of animals those were shadows pointing towards Jesus but if you want to do it Biblically under the Old Testament you need a temple, and you need animal sacrifices, but God didn’t that He didn’t want the animal sacrificed He wanted a shadow to show us how horrific the penalty for sin was. And the sacrifice that the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the whole world was going to make for us. I’m Jewish as much as I would like to see all Jews saved under the Old Covenant you have to according to Leviticus you have to have sacrifice in the temple. There’s not even a temple, so therefore either Jesus is our Messiah, or we Jewish people are separated from God forever. There is no other name given unto men in which we must be saved.
So why is it that Jewish people don’t believe that Jesus is the Messiah? Well, first of all many Jewish people do, the Jewish historian Josephus at the turn of the first century said “There were a million Jewish believers in Jesus,” I’m a Jewish believer in Jesus. I have many friends that are Jewish believers in Jesus but yes the majority do not and I pray that this teaching will give you a supernatural impartation of what I call a Jewish heart.
There’s an old Hasidic story about a Talmudic student who goes to his Rabbi and says “Oh master, I love you.” The Rabbi responds with a question “Tell me do you know what hurts me?” The young man is bewildered he’s taken aback “Why do you ask me such a confusing question when I just told you that I love you?” The Rabbi shakes his head, “Because my friend if you do not know what hurts me how can you say you love me?”
We’re going to find out what hurts my Jewish people, everyone has heard the Jewish people are the chosen people, but you tell a Jewish person they’re chosen they’ll say “I wish I wasn’t so chosen.” You ask a Gentile person why are the Jewish people chosen, they don’t have a clue. Well, let me tell you why the Jewish person was chosen, Isaiah 43:10 God says this is the call of the Jew, oh God do we need this today! “You are my witnesses.” Do you know what the word Jew in Hebrew means? It’s Yehudi which means a praiser of God. So the Jewish people were selected to be witnesses and praisers of God. Watch the worship that’s going to come forth when Jewish people are saved, watch the prophetic that’s going to come forth when Jewish people are saved. Watch the evangelism that’s going to come forth when Jewish people are saved. Speaking of Jewish evangelism Zechariah 8:23 that’s Jews being true Jews, that’s praisers of God. Zechariah 8:23 says “Thus says the Lord of Hosts in those days 10 men, that’s 10 Gentiles from every language of the nation shall grasp the sleeve. That’s the tseetseet, the fringes of the prayer shawl of a Jewish man, saying “Let us go with you for we have heard that God is with you.” Now I’ve got to stop right now.