Sid: My guest David Martin and David has been instructed by the Lord to put together a devotional of 20 foundational daily devotions which include 100 key points. I want you to get an idea of how important these points are because each one of the devotionals there’s a card where you read that point over; there’s a booklet that you can look at the scriptures and the foundational key point. But then there’s the teaching that makes it come alive. David today I’d like to take the very key point Sensitivity. I would like you to develop that for us.
David: Oh while Sid this is so incredible the miracles of Jesus is what we’re shooting for helping people to walk in the miraculous. And 35 years of studying about it I recognize there’s some very key foundational points and every miracle that Jesus did is duplicatable; turning to wine. Mary said to the servants “Whatever he says.” And what I recognize Sid is that really represents sensitivity and God taught me this principal really by a vision one time. But I’ve seen it played out over and over when we are sensitive and we are in tune in to our heart to His voice and then we do whatever He says the miracles happen then…
Sid: I would like to hear that vision tell me.
David: Well, the vision happened literally 1993. I was in prayer and literally God showed me a man going through a barrier. As the man went through the barrier God said to me “You’re on the threshold of spiritual breakthrough coming into a move of the spirit of God unlike anything the world has ever seen; more signs; more wonders; more miracles than you’ve ever even imagined possible.” And I’m thinking “Wow, praise God.” But He said to me “As much as I want to do this through you I can’t.” And I said “Why?” He said, “Because you’re not ready.” And I said “How do I get ready?” And He said very clearly simply, “The same way Jesus did and Jesus led a life of prayer, fasting and self-denial.” What I recognized is those 3 things set the stage for us to be sensitive; and what I teach is how to be sensitive you have to sensitize and that makes you very open to hear the voice of God. And literally what was interesting is about two weeks later I was sharing about the same thing that vision in a church in North Dakota and shared it with them. And as I said “The spiritual barrier is about to be broken.” God said “That’s not what I said.” And I felt really embarrassed being corrected right in front of the congregation but He said to me He said, “This barrier is not spiritual the barrier is mental; the spiritual barrier is already broken; you have free access to my throne to receive of me.” He said “The problem is you think too much like people.” And what we need to do is think with the mind of Christ and this is what we’re doing is all about helping people to think with the mind of Christ so they’re sensitive to what He says.
Sid: Well, give me an example for instance when you went to Rwanda.
David: Well it was an amazing circumstance that put us there that set the stage for the more incredible supernatural things but I was doing a conference with 250 pastors all of which had experienced atrocities from theRwanda genocide. The majority if not I’d say about 95% of these people were non-charismatic not spirit filled but they were all hurting. So we went there and literally ministered to them for a full week. At the end of the week in the very last session and God had said to me do not offend them, do not go to the gifts of the Spirit or talk about that just minister love. So literally on the very last day of meetings right in the middle of sentence God said to me “Stop.” And I stopped because that was what he said and it was like the longest pause of my life maybe a minute but when you got 500 eyeballs looking at you your interpreter is trying to wave you on to keep you moving but God said “Stop.” Then all of a sudden the window of Heaven opened up; God poured out His Spirit. Sid every one of those pastors got baptized with the Holy Ghost started speaking tongues, now I didn’t know it was tongues because it was all…
David: tongues to start with. But for 3 hours they…
Sid: Three hours, wow!
David: They radiated and they glorified God and in the midst of that God said to me “I want you to go to a place in northern Rwanda and I have something there for you.” So that that’s what was so unique the fact that He poured out His Spirit and then gave me a very specific instruction and it opened the door for a great opportunity.
Sid: But you were sensitive; I mean you could have blown the whole thing if you had approached it in the flesh.
David: Absolutely I mean so there’s many factors there but it was very awkward to stop in the middle of a sentence and all the pressures around you are wanting you to move forward.
Sid: So you heard about the birth place in Rwanda of the shining one revival; what was that?
David: Well, in the 30’s a great revival went through that literally came in the chapel in Northern Rwanda. When Iwent there the man that was one of the founders of that revival literally came into the chapel. And while I was in the chapel there he prayed for me. And Sid it was incredible and I knew nothing about the Shining One Movement at that moment; but he had shared with because I’m so hungry for knowledge of the supernatural and specifically of the miracle of transfiguration was like my miracle since 1979 that one thing God said “Study to understand this miracle in the operation of the life of Jesus.” It’s interesting when that happened it happened on the heels of Him telling His disciples “If you’re going to be my disciple you must lay your life down as I’m going to do.” But Enoch said to me “He said to me “This rival…
Sid: Wait excuse me Enoch was probably one of the few people from that revival an old man that was telling you about it and was going to lay hands on you for the impartation; go ahead.
David: Absolutely; Enoch was a natural person not like Enoch in the Bible a supernatural person or anything like that. But Enoch again was one of the heads of the revival but amazing Sid people that are influenced lived well over a 100 years, very abnormal. But it’s that presence of God His unique anointing that affects them supernaturally. And Enoch said to me that “This revival although it was known as the Shining One Movement; it spread all over central Africa that the core of this thing was about holiness. God was convicting people’s hearts to be holy and any little sin affected them and they’d come to the altar and they repent day after day and over the course of time they literally began to shine radiating the glory of God.”
Sid: Just like as the example you were studying the transfiguration of Jesus when His clothes, His face shined with a light greater than anyone had ever seen before. I believe just like the early saints are depicted with a halo over their head that was the best way an artist could show the shining. Well that I know that has hit you but why is it hitting people that are taking your course?
David: It’s the impartation I believe Sid. When Enoch prayed for me something happened very supernatural happened in my DNA and my spiritual DNA like came alive. That now as I am teaching not only is people see it on me but it’s communicated through the very essence of what God gives me so that when people hear it; when people study it they are affected by this impartation of glory.
Sid: Just give me a little tease what is the second key point we’re going to talk about tomorrow?
David: Well, they’re tied together sensitivity and number 2 is obedience. And again in the first miracle that Jesus did which is amazing because you know of the law of 1st occurrence all miracles point back to the first miracle. And the very first miracle Mary said to the servants, “Whatever He says do it.” So sensitivity whatever He says “Do it,” obedience.
Sid: Now there’s a term that we’ve been talking about this week that many of you are not familiar with and some are. But you’re going to learn more about it; I have Julie True on the telephone and she as far as I’m concerned is the top singing artist and musician I know for soaking music and worship music. And just I like to refer to it as and you can probably feel it even in the atmosphere even as I’m talking to her “peace package.” Now Julie we went and we combined the awesome anointing in our It’s Supernatural television studio and the awesome anointing on you and your worship team. And you did some special spontaneous songs on worship and we’re calling it “24-7 worship.” And we did a DVD of it and which is a little longer than our CD. And then you compiled a special CD for us on worship but we had our studio audience do something different; they just laid on their backs and some had pillows; some had blankets and they soaked. Tell me how you usually have your people soak; start out by telling me what soaking is how it usually occurs.
Julie: Well, my definition of soaking is a time to quiet your mind and be awakened in your spirit. And it’s a time to be still and know that God is God and it’s a time to just be in relationship with God in a real personal kind of way. And now the way we do soaking and now you know there’s not a real hard core definition other than I feel like it’s flowing in the Spirit. And so from a musical standpoint what we do and my team is that we come in and we have absolute no agenda about what we’re going to do or sing or say. And we just sit down; I start playing a cord and I begin making sound and sometimes I’m just making sound. It’s singing in the Spirit or sometimes I sing syllables or I just start singing a sentence to the Lord and I just open up.
Sid: You are not entertaining; you are worshiping God; that’s the difference that I see.
Julie: Yes it’s like our hearts are set on Him; we’re there to be with Him and so much of what I call soaking time is worship but it’s also a lot of just expressing my love to Him on many levels. Or even my hurts to Him; sometimes I’m expressing my hurts to Him and He just will take me through a place of comfort because a lot of people in there they maybe having hurts and I’m tapping into that maybe I don’t know. But anyway we just flow with whatever God is doing that day and it’s different every single time; it’s so wonderful because it’s not dead there’s a lot of life in it; it’s fresh and it’s real. And we just love; you get where you love hearing what God’s going to do that day and where He’s going to take you. And you get to express your own heart to God and not anybody-elses place – their songs or their thoughts; and that’s how we do it.
Sid: Now tell me when a person is soaking tell me what they should be doing.
Julie: Well, I believe from my paradigm and my definition they aren’t talking; they’re not praying; they’re not even praying in tongues; they’re not worshiping; they’re not walking around. They are just being still and they are receiving mostly; they’re just receiving. Now from my standpoint I’m ministering in a different way but they are just receiving and so that’s what it’s mostly about but it has become…some people do soaking and they it’s much more loud and more movement and some people are using flags and dancing and things like that. But in my rim where God uses me it’s mostly in peace and rest and so my soaking times are usually very quiet.
Sid: What kind of feedback occurred to people after they’ve been soaking for awhile do you hear?
Julie: Many many people have been healed and had heart types of healing; you know inner healing but also physical healing. And a lot of people say that they can sleep; I had one lady that said, Heather she said that her Mom had given her some soaking music of mine to listen to and she was skeptical about it. But that she woke up for the first time in years without any anxiety and without taking any pill. And so in years she had not gone to sleep with taking a pill. And so I don’t know it changes you know it soaks into your heart and your soul and your spirit and it soaks away all the hard crusted stuff that’s on our hearts and it infiltrates our whole body. It permeates every cell; I believe that God can literally heal cells with certain tones and frequencies that He can use through somebody who is ministering in His anointing.
Sid: You know we had a guest that taught how you can get rid of the curses of your ancestry through breaking the curses in Jesus Name. But I believe what I’m hearing you say and you actually change your DNA but I believe you have tapped into a frequency in Heaven that is changing people’s corrupted DNA and it’s a gradual thing. But I just believe that if they soak in your music enough everything is going to change closer to what God intended.
Julie: I do too; I think that it’s a supernatural thing and it takes us into spirit to spirit connection and it by passes our mind. And it’s like really hard to do that because in our culture we’re so busy but it’s on a whole other level.
Sid: Now I asked you to create something for us on worship because I’ve come to learn that that is so critical for intimacy with God; for walking in favor of God. For making us irresistible to God and one of the things that you do that I thought was an amazing idea is that you sing the songs and anyone; you don’t need a good voice to do that do you.
Julie: No, anybody can sing. I don’t know if David in the Bible had a good voice but he sang out in the fields while he was taking care of his sheep so I think that it’s meant for all of us.
Sid: Could you for like 30 seconds just sing a line from Psalms; give us an illustration.
Julie: Well, one of my favorite passages that I told you last time was Psalm 103. So one day I just starting singing “All that is with in me” (Excerpt by Julie True 8:30-8:58.5) And that’s how I sing to God; I just take a line out of Psalms sometimes and just keep singing it and the more that you sing it the more you digest it into your own emotions so that you are saying “Everything that is within me God I bless Your Name because You are worthy to praised and You are God.” And you know it’s important that we each sing with our own voice too. And so I encourage everybody to try doing that; just take one line out of a Psalm with you and try singing it.
Sid: Well Julie I think everyone that heard you without music just singing that felt that anointing that you carry….
Sid: On yesterday’s broadcast we found out something that should not happen to anyone Dr. Sandra’s Kennedy’s pet dog in an accident literally bit off part of her upper lip. She ran to the hospital that was nearby and the plastic surgeon said she will need a lot of surgeries and even with those surgeries she will always have a cleft lip and she will in fact never be able to smile. And that was the best they could hope for and she said “No.” Her faith rose up within her and she said “Just sew it together and I don’t want any of these surgeries.” She goes home and she’s got in 10 days a healing meeting; people coming from all over the world people having her teach how to be healed in 10 days. Okay, so you get home the next morning it sinks in what you’re dealing with; you get a hold of scriptures and what do you do with these scriptures?
Sandra: I begin to quote them; I begin to quote them and one of the first things I did Sid as I mentioned before was the doctor wanted me to look at a book of pictures of what supposedly I was dealing with; I refused to do it. I came home…
Sid: Excuse me; these pictures were these people after they had surgery what they looked like?
Sandra: Right, right.
Sid: Okay, why didn’t you want to look at it?
Sandra: I didn’t want to get that in my spirit; I did not want to process that in my spirit I did not want to see because the pictures I knew I refused to receive them. I knew what I was going to be looking at basically I did not want to put that in my mind. I did not want to put that in my soulish area I did not and so I refused to do it and I said “I will not look at that book.” And he said “Well, you might as well.” And I said “I won’t and nor will I ever have another surgery.” And I went home and of course the shock, the shock of seeing yourself plus how swollen I was.
Sid: I mean you must have looked I hate to put it this way but you must have looked like a monster.
Sandra: I did, I did and in fact it happened on a Tuesday night on the Sunday I came to church, the men’s choir was singing and a group of men on the stage burst out crying when I came in because it was so horrible looking. But I just refused to let hell put me down you know at that moment. And again I could only speak by taking the microphone and holdingit to the side of my mouth and I would talk like this…
Sid: But Sandra why if you have a lot of Assistants that could have taken over everyone would have understood it was a freak accident. Why did you do that?
Sandra: It was a principal; it was making a liar out of my God. It was what I’d been preaching and standing on and if God couldn’t do it for me then He wasn’t going to do it for anyone else from my point of view. Everybody he doesn’t pick favorites and so I preached that God did this and there wasn’t anything too hard for God and I needed a miracle.
Sid: Okay but before you even started speaking you had about 10 days tell me what you did during those 10 days.
Sandra: Alright I went through my house and I called up the church because they had all kind of pictures of me and I said “Give me pictures of me smiling really big.” And I got a whole bunch of pictures and I put them all over the mirrors and all over the walls of my house along with healing scriptures so that everywhere I looked I’d see me with a beautiful smile. And I would put that in and I’d point to it and I would say “I will look that way again; I will look that way again.” Every time I would get in front of a mirror I would point to that lip and I would command it in the name of Jesus; I’d take my finger and I’d touch that lip an I’d command it to reform itself, reshape itself and to grow and to expand itself.
Sid: Now when you commanded it; what were you believing? We’re you believing 2000 years ago, I mean what was going on inside of Sandra when she was commanding?
Sandra: I was believing that it was going to happen then; I think that 2000 years ago at that time I wasn’t processing it even though that is the truth; He did do it for us 2000 years ago. I was processing expecting this move at the sound of His Name at the power of His word based on what He said I expected that lip to reform itself and to grow.
Sid: Now did you have any friends that would come to you and would say “I heard you told the doctor that you didn’t want to have this surgeries I think that you should reconsider.” Did that go on in your life at all?
Sandra: No none told me, matter a fact 3 were with me when I went to the hospital and they heard me tell him that. And I was so dogmatic about itand they just said “We’ll agree with you” is what they said; and I said “Okay, don’t say anything contradictory to me; don’t speak to me about it.”
Sid: Just out of curiosity you’re in a unique situation the people around you understood; what would you say to someone right now that’s in a horrific situation the people around them; their husbands, their wives, their children, their family they don’t understand how can they take such a bold position.
Sandra: Well, for instance these folks were basically my church members but my family did not understand and they suggested I go somewhere and get something done and so I just quite talking to them about it. What I said “If you can’t say something positive, if you can’t agree with me then just don’t say anything.” And I just refused to listen, they started on it and I just walked out and I kept saying “Just wait and see and see what God is going to do.”
Sid: Okay, 10 days pass and I assume that nothing as happened as you can see with your eyes and you got this Healing Explosion thing going on with people coming from all over to get healed. Tell me what it’s going to be seen by the first time when these people that have traveled long distances to sit under your teaching to find out how to be healed.
Sandra: Well, it was a very embarrassing moment because again we’re talking with black cat gut so to speak, I don’t know why he didn’t use a different kind of string, but I’ve got this black cat gut on my face.
Sid: Oh, pulling your mouth together where the hole was okay.
Sandra: Yeah, and pulling my face over; couldn’t talk plain; couldn’t speak there plain. I thought about canceling, to be honest I thought about canceling that healing explosion. Then I thought “How can I do that there are people coming they might not look as bad as I do but they’ve got things in their body that’s terrible a lot worse and many of them eaten up with cancer and many of them crippled and paralyzed and everything else. So I can’t cancel this I have to stand up and show them.” I’ll never forget when I walked down to begin that meeting because it was just horrible to look at. And I mean I remember saying okay take a minute and just look at me and get it over with. And again I’m saying take a minute and look at me that’s how it sounded. And I said “Just look at me I’m going to do this and get over the shock; my God is going to do this for me. And they kind of clapped their hands and got all excited to think I was going to do it you know. And I never will forget in that particular teaching I was teaching “I’m a Whosoever Going After My Whatsoever.” And in between my whatsoever you know it’s a mountain and you’re supposed to speak to the mountain and remove that mountain. And I began to when I got to that place I turned my back on the crowd this was the first part of the miracle that began to happen. I turned my back on the congregation and I said “It’s every man for himself.” And I began to speak and say I command you to move; command you. I began to tell my mountain which was that lip. And I began to tell how big my God was and I didn’t tell my God how big my problem was; I told that mountain how big my God was. And I said “My God is big; my God can do anything and I command this lip to move.” And just about at that moment I felt in my lip a little movement take place, it wasn’t big, it wasn’t a lot, but it was a little.
Sid: Out of curiosity did you “Oh, that was my imagination? Or “Oh that was just a nerve,” or did you say “I know that’s the beginning of my miracle?”
Sandra: Yeah for a second for a split for a split second and then I kind of stopped for a minute and then I kept on saying it because my speech changed.
Sid: I’ll tell you what hold that thought and we’ll pick up here on tomorrow’s broadcast. Briefly what do you mean by proving God it sounds kind of arrogant?
Sandra: Yeah it does as a matter of fact that when the Lord first spoke to me about it I thought “Can a person do this you know?” And then of course I found those scriptures in Isaiah that says “Come on talk to me bring to my remembrance, prove me justify your case and tell me where you standing.” And then I realized that God wants us to believe Him enough to come to Him and say “Hey, this is what You said; this what You said and I heard You and I’m agreeing on your word and I know that You can’t lie and I’m expecting You to do what You said in Your word what You will do.”
Sid: We are getting ready Mishpochah to have such a baptism and outpouring of God’s love that we will be just naturally loving God with all of our heart and mind and strength and loving our neighbor as ourself. And I have a new friend of mine on the telephone Leif Hetland. He was born in Norway but his office is in Florence, Alabama right now. He is the President of Global Mission Awareness. And he had an experience called the Baptism of Love and I asked him on yesterday’s broadcast. I said “Leif, could your team had led ½ a million Muslims (which they have to the Lord) without this Baptism of Love? And he gave me an answer I wasn’t looking for and he said “Yes, because the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.” And these gifts operate because they do come from God and he used a close personal friend of mine who’s now in Heaven Dr. Derrick Prince. Derrick had one of the greatest deliverance ministries of all time. And God used him but he was in bondage till he had this baptism of Love. But I have to believe Leif that when you can talk to a Muslim about the love of Father God not from intellect; not theologically but where they literally feel what you are saying. That has to cut through all those religious spirits.
Leif: There’s no doubt about it and the joy that I have and you have seen some of my videos. But I do always visit a top Muslim leaders of the countries of where I’m going in and I think that the love and the favor, and the grace that I have upon my life that is what is resting upon me. And somehow that gives an attraction and I cannot because of this being on the radio but I have visited one Arab nation which some of the top Arab leaders. One of the most conservative of that Arab nation, but just coming into this palace where infidels would never be called in. And to be in this room I have it on picture and video; but to be there in this palace just the love that I have for these people. Because I think that one of the things I love my Jewish brothers and sisters and I love Israel and I pray for the peace of Jerusalem. But somehow something has been wrong with us if we have a hate towards Muslim instead of understanding that they are lost without a shepherd. That these people are blind and that they need to see; that these people are people that just need an encounter with the God of love that will change their life. So when I’m looking at them and know that I am looking at them with the eyes of Jesus with eyes of love. And He loves bother Jews and the Gentiles and I have such a passion and love for Muslims. And when I see these ladies behind the veil but in this house here with 3 of the top Muslim leaders in the world. One of them is chairman of all of these boards and if I mentioned the names everybody would know who they are. And I have some beautiful pictures with them; but in that room the love was the magnet that drew these people and where they wanted to listen. The next thing I had the opportunity and that was because one of the friends that I had there with me we got some words of knowledge that resulted in the healing of the elbow of one person and the knee replacement of the other 3 that were in there. And I got to pray and as I started to pray I said “Father in the name of Jesus Christ release the power of the Holy Spirit.” I’m in the palace of some of the top leadership and this is just a few months ago; and in the midst of all of that I just talked about the childhood of this one person standing there prophesying speaking things in. And afterwards he said “Wow, what an exercise!”
Leif: “I never experienced; it was like heat and electricity and I cannot explain what is going on here but…” And the whole room and my team that was with me from America they stood and hold us back; if not they would have gone on the floor just because the presence of God was so strong. The love was the language that blind eyes could see and the deaf ears can hear; it is the aroma of the Father’s favor that is coming in there because people don’t care how much you know until they know how much you care. So love becomes; the baptism of love creates an atmosphere where I do believe that the power can be released and we can demonstrate who Jesus Christ is.
Sid: Leif I have to ask you, “What is your time with God now like; what do you do?”
Leif: To be honest with you that is a very difficult question because most people would think because of the type of ministry that I’m such a holy man that wakes up at 5:00 in the morning and spends 3 hours in prayer and then I do my Bible study and everything else. The most precious time I have with the Lord, is soaking is what I call it; it’s just receiving. And the reason is because I spend most of my like studying, praying and doing all these different things and it was almost a… and I’m not discourage people from doing that because of where I came from it was very important for me just like my son if he comes up to me and says “Daddy I need $70 for a new pair of shoes or I need this or I need that.” Just for him to climb up on my lap and he says “You’re the best daddy in the whole wide world; I just wanted to sit here with you and love on you.” That is the most precious time I have with the Lord; I have a room in my house that I don’t use often enough because I travel so much. But I have a massage chair and I sit in there and just click on a CD and there will be music or I put on a CD where the Father just speaks to me and all I do is just listening to what Daddy has to say to me as a son.
Sid: Do you every visualize yourself getting into God’s lap and having Him embrace you and if so tell me about that.
Leif: Very much so and it’s so what the most important thing in my life where I am just seeing myself and that’s the identity that I have when people ask me. I say, “I see myself as a little boy who has a Big Dad; little problems.”
Sid: Do you see yourself as a little boy when you get in your father’s lap?
Leif: Yes I do; I do. And I see myself as a little boy that has a Big Dad and here’s the key revelation out of this. Little Dad; big problems; Big Dad little problems; Jesus said “You have to be like a little child to enter into the Kingdom.” I really do believe that and I’m not talking about being childish, but to be like a child. To be able to understand our Heavenly Father; our loving Father. When I understand how big God is and I’m looking at the cancer or quadriplegic in the wheelchair I first have to look how big my God is; then I see very differently how big Goliath is when I see how big my Daddy is. And so if He is for me who can come against me; so big Dad small problems. Big problems small Dad. So I need a time just with my Daddy where He enlarge where I see how big He is and then I realize how little I am as a son; as a little boy climbing up on my Daddy’s lap.
Sid: Now what does God look like to you as you’re visualizing and climbing into His lap?
Leif: Well, the major thing that it’s almost hard to describe in pictures but I can… as I say sometimes I have a picture of Jesus because of course He’s the perfect reflection of how Father God looks like and that’s an easy answer. But I just sensing that He’s almost like a big Teddy Bear type of Daddy that is just… and I know that’s not the logical or correct…
Sid: I’d seen some pictures by the way of the laughing Jesus; that would be and smiling and happy.
Leif: That is but I can see into His eyes; I can hear His voice the pleasant of His voice. I can feel His arms around me. Even when I’m talking to you right now; I can feel the presence of the Father being here. In the last nine weeks in every meeting I’ve had a lot of angelic visitation; where somewhere also I started to talk to the Father it was…
Sid: By the way have others seen these angelic visitations or just you?
Leif: Oh no; a lot of people have and I’m not seeing very well still. But a lot of them have. And we have 300 and some pictures in my office similar you saw Gary Oates showing you. I have over 300 pictures. I was in a Southern Baptist Church this Sunday, no last Sunday and I told them in the Sunday morning I said “Tonight there’s going to be a lot of angels showing up.” And they did and all these manifestations showed up.
Sid: This is a Southern Baptist Church?
Leif: It’s a Southern Baptist Church, traditional Southern Baptist Church. And as I was saying; and we had 5 miracles taking place in this Baptist Church and when they came up they showed me. And they are sending me now the emails of this week they’re sending me the pictures of what came out on the camera. And they came out the skeptics and I’m pointing and saying “Now you’re going to see what your eyes cannot see; and it’s going to blow you away.” I was with Karen Wheaton last Tuesday and I just did a simple teaching on angels just for them to understand because we don’t want to focus on the angels because it was about Jesus. And we saw that very clearly in Revelation 19:10 that they are messengers and servants and if the Father is sending them to us we need to welcome them. And so I just told her and I talked about the angels as winners and now you will feel from the right wind come here. And all over the room people could feel wind; they are like fire; and I read scripture verses on it. And now you will feel like fire and fire came in; and then I have an angel feather that I received at Bill Johnson’s Church that came down from Heaven.
Sid: By the way I was at Bill Johnson’s Church and the same thing happened to me, but go ahead.
Leif: Yeah, and so I have one big one that’s about five inches tall and bigger than all of the smaller ones that I’ve picked up in the past. The Lord just told me just stroke the people with My feather. And I’ve never done those things and I’m from a Southern Baptist background and so for the people in the audience think I’m crazy. But just as I did that there was gold that came over every one of the hands that we stroke and on Karen Wheaton too. Many of you know that on TBN on her face was full of gold glitter just as we just touched it. But all I think that the Father wanted to remind us about is “I am here; I am coming Son and I am preparing a bride and it is going to be a beautiful bride for my Son.
Sid: What is your relationship with the Holy Spirit?
Leif: Oh, I love the Holy Spirit and that is saying that I think the whole key element to being able to have intimacy with the Father is to walk in the Spirit. Because when you walk in the Spirit chair number 1 you will not fulfill the desires of the flesh. Chair number 2 you will not have Father encounters and Father experiences unless that you’re walking in the Spirit. And again that is not by trying it is by trusting; so I learned very quickly that I cannot live the Christian life and there is only one that can and there is only one that will. And His name is Jesus and He is very good at it and He gave me a Helper; a Counselor; a Power because I am powerless, helpless and weak.
Sid: Now do you talk to all 3 distinctly the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
Sid: Okay Mishpochah if you’re not challenged your dead and Jesus has a solution; we can pray for the dead and they’ll come back to life.