SID: Hello SidRoth your investigative reporter here with PeggyJoyce Ruth.Let’s suppose you get a telegramthe doorbell rings, you open the telegramyour son has just died.What are you going to do?He is out in Iraq, he has just diedwhat are you going to do?Well you had someone that understood the 91st Psalm PeggyJoyce Ruth, and what did she do?
PEGGY: Exactly. Well,Crystal is a good friend of mineand we watched her little boys grow up.And she, like I say we’ve been teaching thisbecause we found that it worksand we’ve had so many miracleswe want other people to know about it.
SID: It really works?
PEGGY: It really works!
PEGGY: And so, anyway, when her son was 19, Jefferyand he was one of the first ones into Iraq.And she gets this letter from the Senator’s officesaying we just appreciate the factthat your son has given his life for the country;and we want to offer you all these condolences and all this;and she just couldn’t believe it.And she said her first impulse was to throw the letter awayand then she said “No, God gave me this promise.”And for two hours she said something rose upon the inside of her.She walked through that house.
SID: Wait, it’s too late Peggy Joyce;the telegram, her son is dead.It’s too late.
PEGGY: Well it’s like I always tell people,we can either believe what the world saysor we can believe the word of God.
SID: Yeah, but this is almost ridiculous.
PEGGY: I know it sounds ridiculousbut she said “No, I have a promise from Godand I’m not going to turn that promise loose.”
PEGGY: Yes, very tenacious.
SID: Is that what we have to be?
PEGGY: We have to be.Renee was tenacious and that’s why she got her miraclebecause we’ve got to believe thismore than we believe what the world is saying.But she kept standing on that word;and then she called the Senator’s office.I have the letter;I mean she gave me a copy of the letter.She called the Senator’s officeand she said I believe you’ve made a mistake.And they just said well we couldn’t have,you knowand she said will you check?And they had to call Iraq; they had to look him up.And they called back about three hours laterand said we are so sorry.We cannot imagine what happenedbut your son is alive.
SID: You know there is a natural law, there really isbut there is a higher law.So what are you dealing with?What problems going in your life?What if a tornado is headed directly to your property?What would you do?What did you do?
PEGGY: Well the news commentator came onand he said there is a tornado that has touched downright south of the country club.Our house is exactly south of the country club.And so my husband… most people we found out the next daywere putting their children under mattresses and in closets.My husband gets our children out of bedbecause we want them to know that Psalm 91 works.Now this was several years ago when they were at homeand he got them out of bed, said get your Bibles.And he got them outsideand we had the kids circling the houseand we were circling the house confessing Psalm 91;declaring the promises that God had made to us in Psalm 91.And my husband then got a peaceand he said ok we can go in the house now.We went in the house just as the guy on the radiowas saying it’s just like a miracle.
SID: But wait a second,why didn’t you just jump in your car and drive off?You didn’t have to rely on a miracle.
PEGGY: Well we didn’t want to go off and leave our homeand let our house get blown away.
SID: Of course.
PEGGY: This works for your home, this works for you know…every evil known to man is covered in Psalm 91.And that’s what’s so wonderful about it.I mean it’s not just a protection against diseasebut it’s also a protection for your family.It’s a protection against what other people can do to you.It’s a protection against natural disasters
SID: PeggyJoyce Ruth, let me ask you this question:what would you advise a parent to dowith a little child that is fearful?
PEGGY: I would take that little childand I would sit him down; and I would say“Honey,God loves you and God is biggerthan any problem that could ever come your way.He’s bigger than disease, he’s bigger than tornadoes,he’s bigger than all these things;but you have to get to know him.You have to come to a place where he becomes your best friendand that’s what verse 1 is all about.“He who dwells in the shelter of the most high…”I love it when our little grandchildren come over.Cullen and Merritt will come to see usand we have breakfast and as soon as breakfast is over,they know that before they even put their school clothes onthat they’re going to run to their secret place.They each have his own little secret placewhere he goes and he has his time to talk with goand she’s in a different placeand she has her time to talk with God.
SID: And it’s not like some kids say,“Oh God never talks to me.”You’re saying that if you teach them the secret placeand how to know God, each child can know God.By the way what happened to your housewith the tornado coming?
PEGGY: When we got back into the house,the guy on the radio was saying,and he used the word miracle.He said it’s just like a miracle.He said that tornado has all of a suddenzipped right back up into the clouds and has disappeared.And the next day, I mean the whole town was talking about itbecause they were really expecting us to get wiped out.And I just love it to see how God works.In fact we were teaching this, the children’s churchcoordinator was teaching this to young boys and girls4, 5, and 6 year olds.And there was a little 6 year old, when he got throughteaching Psalm 91 and telling about the tornado;ran to the door, opened the door, and saidI can hardly wait for the next tornado to come.
SID: Well I don’t know whether I would go that far,but I would tell you this: the most important thing -whether you’re a little child or whether you’re an adultis not religion; the most important thingis to have your own intimacy with God.There is only one way you can have intimacy. Coming from a Jewish background,I didn’t know our Messiah had already come.His name in Hebrew is Yeshua.In English it’s Jesus,I want you to do something.I want you to tell God that you are sorry,and tell him every known reason you’re sorry.Look we’ve all sinned,the Psalmist says.There’s not one righteous, no not one.Have you lied? Have you stolen?Do you watch the wrong things on television?Are you involved in the New Age?Sex outside of marriage?Homosexuality?Tell him you’re sorry.Ask to be forgiven because of what Jesus did for youand he will forgive you.And then ask Jesus to live inside of you.And you go to your secret place;you know what he promises in Psalm 91?With long life I will satisfy you.You’ll be satisfied in this life.Let me tell you, knowing God is all that counts;it’s all that counts.
SID: Hello, Sid Roth your investigative reporter here with Anita Hill.And AnitaI look at you right now and I find it very difficult to believe what I see on this sheet of paper.Let me just read this.Seventeen peripheral diseases such as: multiple chemical sensitivity, legally blind in both eyes; atypical organic brain syndrome; short term memory loss; loss of balance; falls all the time; hypothyroidism; rare kidney disease; multiple fibroid tumors; osteoarthritis; on kidney dialysis; in a coma; allergies from childhood; psychiatric diseases; schizophrenia; paranoid catatonic episodes; manic depressive; multiple personalities, 14 of them; anorexia; organic disorders.I mean I could go on and on!This is just the short list.How could you even want to live?
ANITA: Well one thing Idid want to say, I was legally blind without my glasses.Now I can see quite well without them.And I didn’t want to live for many years and I had my first suicide attempt at the age of eight because of the devastation that began in my childhood.
SID: I’d like to know a little bit about that.
ANITA: Well I was born in St.PaulMinnesota.And I was born during a blizzard, which isn’t uncommon in Minnesota.And they weren’t able to get to the hospital so I was delivered at home.And the ambulance finally got there after the delivery and they took my mother out.And she got pneumonia from the exposure and it developed into tuberculosis.And she was in the hospital the first seven years of my life.And I saw her a few times at home when she was in remission; but I wasn’t able to interact very much because she had to rest a lot.And most of my experience with my mother was waving at her when she was on the fourth floor of the hospital.They used to take me outside the hospital to wave at her through the window;and so I did not really bond with her.I was raised by about twenty different housekeepers between the age of one and seven.And I had a lot of devastation.I had a brother who was about two years older than me who was very devastated losing his mother.And when I was five…
SID: Now how old were you when your mother died?
SID: But you didn’t even know her that well even before that.
ANITA: No,I didn’t really know my mother.And when my brother and a cousin took me out in an inner tube to the deep part of a lake;I did not know how to swim.And they left me there to drown.And I hit the bottom of that lake and I can still remember being under all that water.And I saw something moving in the water and I caught hold of it.And it was a man who had dived off the diving board; and I wasn’t going to let go.He couldn’t shake me off and that’s the first experience I had of God drawing me out of many waters.
SID: That really sounds like a devastating background; but lots of people have devastating backgrounds and don’t get as sick as you got.You were known as the woman in the glass bowl.
ANITA: Right.I lived in a foil lined environment starting in about 1980.I became allergic to everything in the world.In fact the doctors told me the only way I could really survive and be without pain and illness was to live on Mars; and that wasn’t possible.So I lived in foil lined rooms.I either had to live by the ocean or in the mountains.I tried the desert and I couldn’t breathe there, so I opted for the ocean and I had problems there too.
SID: Now could you eat? In other words, were there just certain foods you can eat?
ANITA: I had zero foods that I could eat without getting sick.When I left the hospital…
SID: Zero? How does someone live that way?
ANITA: Well they neutralized me and gave me injections for every food I ate.Even lettuce could put me in bed with severe joint pain for three or four days, so I had to take an injection before I could eat the food.Beets were the only food that didn’t make me desperately ill.They only gave me a bad sore throat so I ate beets most of the time.
SID: Just out of curiosity today do you despise beets?
ANITA: Not really
SID: Ok.I would!
ANITA: They were my friends.
SID: But that’s a horrible way to live.
ANITA: That’s true.
SID: I guess we humans can cope, but this is way beyond coping Anita.
ANITA: Well that’s very true and I didn’t even have a bed to sleep in for eleven years.I reacted to the chemicals in mattresses so I slept on a metal frame that was about 24 inches wide.And for
eleven years I slept on my face with my arms crossed in front of me because there wasn’t room for my arms.And I could only use silk or linen for covering because any other materials such as cotton would have been sprayed with pesticides would cause me to go into anaphylactic reactions;asthma.And at one point I was totally naked.I couldn’t put any clothes on my body.But then I was able to wear the silk and the linen.Now I can wear anything.
SID: Out of curiosity, who took care of you?
ANITA: I had a home health aide for part of the time, but even that was difficult; because if she were outside; and brought any odors in, perfumes, car exhaust, it could cause my body to go into spasms.And I would have heart attack pain.I had adrenalin syringes hanging on every wall in the house in case I had a heart attack or went into anaphylaxis; because I would have severe throat closures.
SID: You sound like someone that would be a good candidate for the GuinnessBook of World Records!You had so many things wrong with you.
ANITA: Well I hope I wouldn’t make that book.I can believe there are other people who have even had worse things going on.
SID: Ok, you had an acquaintance; a friend from Harvard, a Jewish woman.Tell me about that.
ANITA: Well she had to drop out of Law School because they sprayed pesticides and she got overexposed and her immune system hit the bottom too.I met her in San Francisco and so we had an apartment together, but then she had to leave that apartment because the woman next door sprayed for roaches.Even though our house was sealed, it still affected her and so she went to live in the deserts of Arizona;and was in a lean-to in an old cow pasture away from civilization.Quite a drop from HarvardLaw School and one day she called me about two years later.And I noticed there was something different about her voice.And I said “What happened?” And she said that God had healed her of this disease.And right away I knew I wanted to know this living God that I’d known as a child; and I’d fallen away and had become an atheist.And I called another friend who’s also been totally healed of this type of devastating illness.And she was my astrologer and I did pendulum readings for her because we were in the New Age trying to get healed.
SID: Did it help you any, the New Age?
ANITA: No, not at all.You’d think it was getting a little better and then it came back seven or eight worse;like you read in the Bible.Some things come back seven or eight worse and so I spoke to her and right away she began weeping and I said “Why are you weeping?” And she said because I’m going to have to give up my guru and she became a Christian too.
SID: This Jewish girl from Harvard became a believer in Jesus too?
ANITA: Yes and my friend who had a guru.
SID: Anita,the New Age doesn’t work.You’ve got this Jewish friend from Harvard that says God healed her.So what did you do about this?
ANITA: Well I called the ministry that was in Florida at that time, and they said it would be about three months before they could take me.But in the mean time they worked with me on the phone, and I accepted JesusChrist as my Savior.
SID: Why had you become an atheist?
ANITA: Because I had been in the Baptist church, and the Methodist church as a child.And in college I joined a Catholic church and I became a nun for seven years.And I really didn’t see any power.
SID: You were really searching for God.
ANITA: Ever since I was a child.I always wanted to serve God and that’s why I went in the convent.But I didn’t find what I needed for my life and now I have.
SID: So you made a decision to believe in Jesus but still you’re a woman in a bubble.What happened next?
ANITA: Right.They finally said… I told them I was too sick to go there because I was on oxygen.I’d been on oxygen eleven years and I really couldn’t leave my home without a lot of duress.And they weren’t able to come and I said well I’m going to come to you.And I turned off that oxygen tank.That was back in 1992; in March and I haven’t used oxygen since.And I flew to the ministry without oxygen.I went in faith and God met me.
SID: Let me tell you something.Here’s the exciting news: what happened to Anitacan happen to you.And you’re going to find out some revelation on healing that very few people have ever heard of.Don’t go away.We’ll be right back after this word.
Sid: Well my guest is another Jewish Believer. She’s on staff with Messianic Vision, she’s the Co-Producer of Its Supernatural Television and she is also the Producer of Messianic Vision Radio. Her name, Janie DuVall and I asked her to be my guest today because our experiences are kind of parallel. I mean we both come from Jewish backgrounds and I know for me when I became a believer in the Messiah the Charismatic Movement was going on and Janie became a believer a few years later but the Charismatic Movement was still going on. And for me I didn’t know what it was like to be a believer and not be spirit filled because the two happened all together, so to speak. But Janie how about you?
Janie: Well, when I became a believer for the first few years I didn’t even know that there were churches that were born again because I got saved reading a book on bible prophecy. But I was still very intrigued in miracles into the supernatural and so we would read books on that, my father and I. But then the moment I walked into a church I heard people praying in supernatural languages. So right away I was just absolutely fascinated with that.
Sid: Well, for me I use to spend about an hour a day praying in supernatural languages and had I understood what I understand today, I would have put in about eight hours a day. I know that this sounds ridiculous but with what I know today, I missed it big time by not putting in a lot of hours of praying in supernatural languages. But I’m grateful for the hour a day I put in because I would not be in this ministry today had I not done that. But, Janie did you pray much in supernatural languages back then?
Janie: Well, you know when it first happened to me I was praying hours a day. But just like you as time went on it started getting less and less. So I think there are a lot of other people who have been things have been stolen from them because we haven’t been praying in the spirit more.
Sid: Well, you know when I interviewed Glenn Arekion he gave me some keys and I started studying these keys in the Bible and I don’t know what’s been going on with you because we haven’t conferred but I am once again praying in supernatural languages more than I have done in many, many years. How about you Janie?
Janie: Oh my goodness me too. You can’t just hear those reasons. I mean one reason, he just said was “All things work together for good” but he talked about the scriptures that came before that and it was really about praying in the Spirit and when..
Sid: Well, whoa, let’s just interject right there. I hear it quoted, Roman 8:28 “All things work together for good to those that know the Lord” and so that’s always quoted, however what they leave out is if you’re praying supernatural languages, big difference.
Janie: And I can totally understand that because now when I look back in my life and I see the times that I was praying in the Spirit more and more, I’d have supernatural things happen to me. Seeing an angel and different things and I would get answers to prayer way faster, so you’d think I would have kept on doing it for a long time but, something got side tracked.
Sid: Well I know exactly how it happened with me. When I started speaking and I started Full Gospel Businessmen as a brand new believer. There was the emphasis on the baptism on the Holy Spirit and speaking in supernatural languages. So I would share, I remember this I would share my testimony then, I would give an invitation for people to know the Messiah and then I would go directly to the baptism in the Holy Spirit and then I would pray for the sick. But as my healing ministry increased I had to trim something because the meeting was getting too long and what I trimmed was the baptism in the Holy Spirit. And it’s really diabolical as I look back at it now.
Janie: Well, there’s something going on right now because so many people we’ve been interviewing now for at least the past year, most of them have been saying the key to what’s been going on their life walking in the miraculous, seeing incredible prayers answered, seeing people healed, having supernatural provision. All of them have been saying, seeing angels the key is they all pray in the Spirit.
Sid: Well there was a major key, I mean I knew about Romans 8:28 and a lot of other things that Glen spoke about but I hadn’t heard them in a long time but there was one thing he said which opened up so much to me that I felt we had to spend a whole week to emphasis because this is what the Holy Spirit is doing in my life right now and I know that he is doing it in your life. And in Acts the 6th Chapter, verse 7 & 8 it says that as a result of the apostles’ action this is what happened , the Word of God spread and the number of the disciples multiplied greatly in Jerusalem and a great many of the Jewish priest were obedient to the faith. And Steven full of faith and power did great wonderful signs that was normal and somehow we have had normal high jacked out of belief in the Messiah. Now, what did they do and that was Acts Chapter 6: 7 and 8 that caused the Word of God to spread, disciples multiplied, the Jewish Rabbis and Priests were becoming obedient to the faith. They were full of faith and power. What did they do? Well you go back a verse to Acts chapter 6:4 and if you read it in the Greek that was the key, Janie. If you read it in the Greek translation it changes everything.
Janie: Okay, I want to know what it says.
Sid: It says, But we will give ourselves continually to prayer. Now that is not in the Greek. It is in the English translation. But even the English is one you have to question. How can you give yourself continually to prayer, you’ll run out of words in English 24 7. But there must have been a prayer that you could give yourself continually to that caused all these great results and in the Greek translation this is what it literally says, but we will give ourselves continually to “the prayer”. There were different types of prayer but there was one which you were able to pray continually, nonstop and they called it, “the prayer”. And that’s why Paul said in 1 Thessalonians Chapter 5 verse 17. I’m going to pray without ceasing and he admonishes us to pray without ceasing. Well Janie, if you did not pray in supernatural languages between you and me is there any way you could pray without ceasing.
Janie: Absolutely not, I would run out of words after a few minutes.
Sid: Especially, since you pray New York style you would run out of it even faster than me. You do it so much faster. Seriously speaking, somehow these first followers of the Messiah, when they went and moved in such awesome power it was because they knew how to pray “the prayer” continuously. I just wish I understood this, and then when I studied the great men and women of God and found the secret to their power, like the great Azusa Street Revival that birth the Pentecostal Movement. It was started by a one eyed uneducated black man by the name of William Seymour and what he used to do, I think it’s so fabulous, is he would put a bag over his head and he would pray in tongues and he wouldn’t remove the bag until God told him what to do. And he would sit there for hours. Could you picture you going to church this Sunday and your Pastor putting a bag over his head?
Janie: They would really think he’s crazy but you know what, there’s something really good now because it use to be if we would pray in the Spirit in our car before cell phones people would just think we were talking to ourselves and we’re crazy. But now we can pray in the Spirit in the car and people just think we are on a cell phone.
Sid: Oh, I do this in the gym all the time. And it’s like double duty but we put together a kit and I’m so excited, because you see, when I was a new believer I use to teach on being baptized in the Holy Spirit and speaking in unknown tongues. And I don’t know if it was the time I use to teach in but it was easy. Just about everyone, people that never prayed in tongues that were filled, see I believe you can be baptized in the Holy Spirit and never speak in unknown tongues. But if your baptized in the Holy Spirit you have the ability to speak in unknown tongues. Well, people that would go twenty years without speaking in unknown tongues would come to my meetings and they start speaking and I thought what if I try it again? So we used the church that Janie and I go to and we had a meeting and we invited people that would like to speak in supernatural languages they had never done it and we videotaped it professionally and Janie, it exceeded my expectations. You were in the audience. What do you think?
Janie: I was totally amazed. I couldn’t believe how many people went up from young to old, people who had known the Lord for a long time, some who didn’t and people who started praying tongues, who had a block, people who were even thinking I don’t even believe in this stuff. One woman came and didn’t even believe in speaking in tongues ended up going forward, praying in tongues and now tells everybody about it and wanting other people to do it. It was amazing, it was a break though with everyone.
Sid: So we’ve put a kit together which is mandatory for mentoring. If you speak in supernatural languages you’ll probably start speaking in multiple languages when you listen to this and if you don’t you will be able to speak in tongues. But even more important than that, you can just play this DVD and then we have two CDs of amazing people, some are in Heaven already telling the secrets of the supernatural and speaking in tongues. The two CDs and the one DVD is a kit.
SID: Hello. Sid Roth here. I’m with Pastor John Kilpatrick at the Mobile Convention Center in Mobile Bay and lightening has struck a second time. It’s so wonderful. How would you compare the difference between this move of God and the Brownsville-Pensacola move of God?
JOHN: Well revival basically is revival. It’s the same strain. It’s the same spirit. But what I would say makes this one different is the presence of God is it feels much the same. It’s like deja vu all over again, but the miracles are more numerous. And they’re not only more frequent, but I’d say magnitude, greater miracles that we’re seeing right now. And you know, I hadn’t been out really in the glory since Brownsville and while we’ve been here in this convention center I was out in the glory several times again.
SID: Just as he said that the glory has gotten so hard, so strong, so wonderful that I believe that you could pray for people to experience right now. Would you do that?
JOHN: Father, in the powerful name of Jesus I just speak, Lord, that the glory of God come in people’s homes, hotel rooms, hospital rooms, right where they are right now, that the weighty presence of the Lord will move in, that the heat of the healing presence of God would overshadow the sick right now, and Lord, that your presence would move in, strengthen your people, encourage your people, and Lord, revive your people in the powerful name of Jesus.
SID: There is a healing anointing connected with this particular move of God’s spirit. It is the same as Brownsville from the viewpoint of holiness and repentance, and soul, but the healing, the miracle anointing, I heard that people with pain of any kind like in the back, here, you’re from Missouri. I want you to prove me, right now. If you have a backache, bend over. If you don’t, don’t bend. Okay. But seriously, seriously, you have arthritis in your fingers and even ears are opening. This is a glorious anointing. But the last time I interviewed you, you had had an acronym of the word “resurrection”, of what was going to happen in the next three years. Now there’s two years left, and what you painted, what God showed you was a horrible picture for the United States of America of what’s about ready to happen, and I believe God showed you, he downloaded in your spirit how we will know mysteries. What did He say to you?
JOHN: The Lord showed me that in no uncertain terms that before his coming that he was gonna reveal mysteries. He said, “In Heaven there’ll be no mysteries. In Heaven everything will be completely revealed.” But before we get to Heaven, mysteries are not gonna do us any good if they remain mysteries. So his coming is close. So the Holy Spirit is in the process right now of revealing mysteries to His people, not just prophets, not just pastors or evangelists, but laypeople. God’s revealing mysteries, things that’s been locked up, things that’s had people stumped, things that’s been clogged. He’s just loosing. And people’s dreams.
SID: Wisdom for what to do with your children. You’ve got an impossible situation. What to do with your marriage. What to do about your finances. He’s gonna show, I’ve listened to his teaching that God downloaded. He is going to show exactly how to solve these horrific problems that are coming on Planet Earth.
JOHN: Well I believe that next year and the next year are going to be crucial years. I believe the church needs to get ready. I’ve never been a preacher that’s a doomsayer by any means. I try to move in faith. I always have preached faith and I’m a very optimistic person. But I believe the next two years are gonna be crucial. I would really recommend that people begin to put back some money, cash if they can, and to put back some food and water, and things like that. I’m not trying to make anybody nervous or afraid, but I believe that these next two years are gonna be that crucial economically and otherwise, that I think it’s wisdom to do that. Now the Lord didn’t tell me to tell people to do that. But I believe that it’s just wisdom to do that. Just today, I ordered food today, meals, you know, MRE type meals. I ordered some today, not only for my family, but for my staff, I ordered some to make sure that in case hard times come that we’re prepared.
SID: Now this maybe sound crazy to you, Pastor, but I believe that we are about ready to come into the greatest days of the move of God’s spirit on Planet Earth, and I believe that if you’re experiencing any fear you have to get closer to God, and He makes a promise to you. His promise is if you will draw close to Him I promise you, I can almost feel His passion for you right now. I promise you if you draw close to Me, I will draw close to you. And that is the answer. In fact, what you teach is that people have to move from being a servant to being a friend. And I think of Abraham. Abraham was a friend of God.
JOHN: The Bible says, “When two walk together accept to be agreed.” In other words, if you walk with the Lord He wants you to get out of that servant mentality. We have to have a servant spirit about us before we’re willing to serve people. But the Lord doesn’t want us to come to Him like a servant. He said, “I have not called you a servant. I called you friend.” And the Lord reveals his secrets to his friends. Servants take care of things. Servants serve, but friends, when you look at the Last Supper you see John with his head on Christ’s breast and you see his ear right up to his heart. And John is the one in his gospel, the Gospel of John, he’s the one that wrote the deepest of the gospels, and he’s also the one that recorded the Revelation.
SID: How would you like to be a friend of God? If you repent your sins, you tell Him you’re sorry, and you believe that Jesus washed away your sins, I know it sounds too good to be true, but it’s true, and you ask him to live inside of you, that is the doorway into the greatest adventure of your life. It’s time for you to walk on that adventure right now. Do something about it. You don’t need my words. You just need to be honest with God. Draw close to God and He promises to draw close to you.