Our Guest Wesley & Stacy Campbell
Sid: We want everyone everywhere to be so shaking red hot for the Messiah; ablaze with the Spirit that you become normal. Not religious, not just pharisaical, not just a two hour a week Christian when you are in church unless it’s seeker sensitive and then it’s one hour a week but 24-7. If there’s ever been a time to become normal it’s now. Now I have two normal Christians on the phone Wesley and Stacy Campbell. And Wesley had three generations of Plymouth Brethren where they believe the gifts passed away, they had head coverings, they didn’t allow musical instruments they were flat religious. And they had an experience in 1987, Stacy tell me about that encounter that you and Wesley had with the Holy Spirit.
Stacy: Well, no one was more shocked than I because I had been through five years of secular university and then a year of Baptist Seminary. And I was taught that you know people like me were emotional at best and demon possessed at worse and so I was very anti supernatural experiences. And so when in our Baptist Church I was at a prayer meeting and somebody was praying for another man there that was you know that you know they weren’t even praying for me I was in a small room, they were at a prayer meeting and they were praying for another man. No one was more shocked than I to be completely filled, flashed, possessed with the Holy Spirit that had all kinds of physical manifestations and so I’ll tell you what happened. We were in a prayer meeting and they were praying for a man in front of me and these women that had come to our church were you know kind of prophetic and so they were prophesying over this man; for the first time I was watching prophesy in operation, never had seen it before. And they were telling the secrets of this man’s heart and as they were telling the secret’s of this man’s heart there was about eight of us in the room. The man began to cry and I was shocked, a. because I didn’t believe in prophecy; b. because it was actually so much so that the man was crying and I knew him well and he never cried I never saw him cry before; and d. I was thinking well someone should get him a Kleenex because he was crying. And at that moment while I’m think those types of thoughts, like unemotional and you know kind of surprised my knee begins to shake. And it’s a very quiet room and they’re praying for him and I thought I’m making a scene and so I put a hand on my leg to stop it from shaking and the other leg begins to shake. And what was happening to me was the Holy Spirit was coming in the room and the powerful presence of the Holy Spirit. Just like in Samuel’s day in the school of the Prophets with physical manifestations or like in the Book of Acts Chapter 2 when the Holy Spirit came close and He actually not only filled them, but actually possessed their bodies so that they looked like they were drunk so completely filled to the point of looking drunk. That that’s what happened to me, my leg began to shake, I put my hand on my knee to stop it, my other leg began to shake. And the next thing you know I was like, like the Spirit of God, like when He took Ezekiel by the hair, it was like He was lifting me up by my hair and bouncing me up and down on my chair. My head began to violently shake from side to side, I looked down…
Sid: Wesley, were you watching this and what did you think was going on?
Wesley: I mean no one was more shocked than me, because I’m such an analytical guy and a pragmatist. I looked at this and I’m going “What is this?” But you know there was a certain sense of awe and presence that would come in the room that you knew that there was a force from outside that was good and it was God and we were just like, I was just like a kid in a candy shop; I was just in awe but totally excited.
Sid: So Stacy, when I interrupted you you’re shaking for all your worth, what happened next?
Stacy: Well, I looked at my stomach it was like a wind; I could see my whole stomach was almost contorting with the violent presence of wind out of my inner most being. And it began to push up my throat, out my windpipe. I clenched my teeth to stop it, I put my hands over my mouth to stop it and it blew my hand off my mouth. This wind, a physical wind from the inside, a violent shaking from the outside and after the wind came out of my mouth I began speaking in tongues at the top of my lungs. Which I use to preach against so I mean all of this was so sovereign, so utterly un-initiated by me, nobody was ever praying for me, that I shook and shook and spoke in tongues for about an hour. But from about that moment on it was like I could tell things that I didn’t know before. It was like the Spirit of Prophecy was birthed in me.
Sid: You mean you really didn’t have this gift beforehand?
Stacy: Well, I had these experiences that happened to me and where God would speak to me but I never knew that I could actually talk to other people like the gift of prophecy is for edification, exhortation and comfort. And I began to then when I prayed for other people suddenly if the Spirit would come on me that way. In fact that was the infilling or the Holy Spirit possession is unto in the Book of Acts it says “You will be filled with the Spirit, or the Spirit of the Lord will come on you and then it says, they will prophecy, they will dream dreams, they will have visions, men and women will prophecy.” And so this filling, these men are not drunk but they are filled or possessed by the Spirit is unto a prophetic outpouring that is only going to increase in the last days. Well that happened to me and I’m telling you I suddenly, we began to prophecy over nations, we began to prophecy over individuals.
Sid: Alright in 1993 you were invited to speak at the Toronto Outpouring in which you had a prophecy, what was that prophecy?
Wesley: Actually the outpouring hadn’t started yet. I had gone to speak at John Arnott’s Bible camp in the summertime and I told them about the prophetic experiences and praying the Bible. Then he said “Really, I don’t understand what you are saying, can they do it here?” And I said, “Sure.” So I brought Stacy and a couple other prophets in October ’93 before the outpouring actually started, before it started.
Sid: Okay, then Stacy what did you prophecy when you were there?
Stacy: John Arnott invited me to prophecy over his whole staff and the Lord gave me prophetic words for John and Carol. He said, “That there’s a coming a great outpouring of the Spirit.” He gave me the scripture of.
Wesley: First He exploded Stacy shaking wildly and windmilling and jumping up and down as though they were going to explode.
Stacy: Ha-ha.
Sid: So if this was before they had the outpouring how did John Arnott react to this?
Wesley: They were scared; in fact I love it so much, because I think it’s great, and I thought Stacy goes after, “How do you think they were?” I go, “Oh, they loved it, they loved it.” Well, Carol was terrified, Carol was absolutely terrified, they didn’t want anything to do with it. They were scared and they were just glad we left.
Sid: Ha, ha. But you actually prophesied that there would be such a thing as a Toronto Outpouring.
Stacy: Yeah, what the Lord showed me at that time is that scripture of when Jesus sent the 72 out and He saw Satan falling like lightning from heaven and he rejoiced greatly.” He gave me that scripture and He said to them, “There’s coming an Outpouring so great,” He said that, “You know Satan is going to fall like lightning from heaven again.” And He said, “But the key to remember is that don’t rejoice that the demons are subject to you, rejoice that people’s names are written in the Lamb’s Book of Life.” And I said, “The danger in that day will be to focus on the manifestations and not on what the Lord is doing.” So I was kind of an exhortation about a great outpouring, but focus…
Wesley: And you said that He would stand on the stages of the world and that the Holy Spirit would come upon literally out of his hands on crowds of people. And then she began to explode in front of them. And as I said, they were so afraid and startled they were glad we went home. But the strange thing was that was October, January 20th when Randy Clark came three months later, it all happened in their church and it happened just exactly the same as Stacy. And so they suddenly put 2 & 2 together and they said, “This is what she prophesied and their doing what she did, we got to get Wesley and Stacy back here and help us disciple this into a mature movement” and that’s how we got involved with them.
Sid: Just out of curiosity, since that point how many people would you say you’ve prophesied over?
Wesley: I would say 20,000 to 35,000 people minimum.
Stacy: But you know it’s not, you know it’s a sovereign thing, I’ve been in villages in Northern Mozambique, Muslim villages where the Lord will give me a prophetic word and if the presence of God comes on me like that I’m telling you that it always hit’s not just me but the region round and about. And in a northern village in Mozambique, no electricity we would just be a generator.
Wesley: Heidi Baker.
Stacy: You know just showing the Jesus film, and the Lord gives me a prophecy for that village and I would begin shaking and before they translate the English into Portuguese and then into the tribal language of Macau I’m shaking and prophesying to demon possessed people in the crowd of a hundred or so begin shrieking the second that the Holy Spirit comes on me and flushes out the demons. And Heidi said she ran over to one of them and cast legions of demons out them. And so the presence of God coming; in the Old Testament form of Samuel and the School of the Prophets, or like when He would come upon Isaiah and his whole body would be overcome. Or like He came on the early church and you know the whole 120 and they began you know looking like drunk. And Peter explanation is “This is that.”
Sid: So when you are shaking, as best you understand it, it’s the Holy Spirit coming upon you and actually when I shake and I do too, it’s sometimes my stomach contracts and expands and I think that’s a form of intercession.
Stacy: Yeah, yeah well, you know what we’ve understood is that the Holy Spirit, He has actually different manifestations and if you read through the Bible the prophets at different times, different countries even, you know Daniel in Babylon, Isaiah in Israel, different times and different places have manifestation. Or John on the Isle of Patmos…
Sid Roth: You know what, our time is slipping away.
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