Sid: My guest Mahesh Chavda, I spoke with him on yesterday’s broadcast and we found out coming from 800 to 900 years of Hindu ancestry of the top cast areas so to speak. He was very proud of his heritage and one day someone witnessed to him and gave him a Bible. And the Bible threatened him because it literally came alive. And he backed off and he said no, I’m not going to turn my back on 900 years of my Hindu heritage. But in the half asleep state he literally his spirit went into Heaven and the thing that I remember Mahesh, of you saying yesterday that I really am excited about is you’re literally in Heaven the light beams were alive and they were singing. And I tell you what before you sing to me what they sang to you and I have to tell you we have so many documented miracles that occur in Mahesh Chavda’s ministry. I mean healings of stage four cancer, the lame walk, the deaf hear, the blind see, resurrections of the dead. And he walks in this miracle anointing. I understand when you sing what the light beams sang to you that many times people are touched and healed.
Mahesh: That’s correct, yes and it’s such a living thing if you, I feel like when it’s all to do with Jesus and it’s like my spirit and my being picked up the vibration of the Shekinah, that’s the version of the thick glory of God that was in Heaven and was around Jesus.
Sid: Just out of curiosity, the Shekinah we Jewish people think in terms of is in the Holy of Holies and the temple and you experienced that in Heaven. Have you experienced that same type of Shekinah glory on earth?
Mahesh: Yes Sid, a few years ago we had in our local headquarters in Charlotte, North Carolina we had a tent because the meetings would grow so big so we had to have them in a tent and this was witnessed by about 1,200 people that when I started singing I felt like in that 2nd Corinthians the whole thing of “Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is there is liberty. And I started singing “Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is there’s liberty, liberty, liberty.” I’m not, you know I’m not a singer, but I just felt the joy of the Spirit and I started singing about the Spirit of the Lord is there is liberty and then I started just dancing around that and just thinking that where the Spirit of the Lord is there is healing and there is glory and I just started singing. The people started standing up and pointing towards the center of the tent and there was a cloudy pillar that started manifesting of gold and light and it was swirling and they’re were like feathers in there too, little feathers and we had never seen something like that in that concentrated form. And people outside the tent said that it was being seen outside and so we have it. It was videoed on…
Sid: So, did many people see this?
Mahesh: Yeah, about 1,200 people saw it and there were many pastors who were there.
Sid: Can you imagine if rather than every once we walked in that we walked in that Shekinah glory of God twenty-four seven. Is that day coming Mahesh?
Mahesh: I believe so. I believe that it is from honoring Yeshua Hamashiach literally, honoring the Lord Jesus Christ and honoring what he did at Calvary and it’s like an explosion that happened for the entire universe that began at the Cross of Jesus Christ. Where the Lamb of God laid His life down and then was resurrected on the third day; that that work is speaking it is still decontaminating the universe; it decontaminates individuals from sin; which is an offense of God but we can’t do it in ourselves, our good works nothing can do that. It is good for us to do it, but it’s the power of the blood of Jesus that cleanses us and in a sense the word decontamination we are getting familiar with it when they’re is pollution and all of that, we need to be decontaminated people or ground from poison. We are under all of every person however good we are even as children that we have sinned…
Sid: You know what this reminds me of Mahesh, when you literally went into the cells of a diseased liver to heal it. Now that may sound strange to people but tell me about that.
Mahesh: This is was literally about a year ago Sid, that a pastor called me he was crying, he’s a very good friend of mine and he says we are at this place in intensive care unit and they had just told this precious lady who was one of his parishioners that their seventeen year old daughter was dying that she out of some mental depression, she had taken an overdose of pills and it had put her liver in danger. The liver wasn’t going to function anymore and she was dying and there was not enough time to give her a liver transplant. So then he said, he heard the Lord say call the general so he phoned me and said do you have anything. And I said well I don’t have anything right now, but let me pray for this girl. And when I hanged up I turned to the Lord and I mentioned this in prayer need to my wife Bonnie, we both in a sense entered into prayer and I stepped in this bubble of the Glory I call it. Because we can walk in what I feel like everybody all of us, I challenge us as we believe in the Lord is to be ambassadors of the glory. That means around us to a degree everywhere and there is an atmosphere of the presence of God that we need to cultivate. But that’s, I was in a bubble that’s different from outside. Outside that realm the doctors may say, well your child is dying, but in the glory bubble the Lord can say and speak His glory; I am the Lord that healeth thee. So I stayed in that situation in that intensity of prayer even though I did other things I was around in that bubble of glory for about twenty-six hours. And then I felt almost like I popped out and I heard the Lord say, “Now call them she is going to live the liver is whole.” So I phoned her and I felt like the Lord took me by the hand and we went into every little corner of that liver and was decontaminating it off the poison through the power of the blood. And as twenty-six hours later when I called the mother and the Lord said this is her future and I not only had the word about her healing but there was this is what she is going to do. And the doctors at that very same time brought in a report saying listen, we can take no credit the liver is whole. Your daughters going to live and so I realized that the Lord had completely made it, it was the Lord that healed her liver.
Sid: You know Mishpochah can you feel the glory of God that is coming on this radio show right now? Mahesh had a visitation from an angel of which the new CD let’s play a little bit from this new CD where he proclaims God’s promises and Susie Yary literally sings and the atmosphere of Heaven comes in.
Sid: We want everyone everywhere to be red hot for the Messiah. We want every one everywhere to breathe in the air of heaven and you can do it. That’s why my guest this week, Dr. Renny McLean from a little child, he learned how to worship God and then he learned how to move in the glory of God and what to do in the glory. And if you don’t understand these concepts which are key to the last days to being the head and not the tail in the last days. As a matter of fact Renny, on yesterdays broadcast you were speaking a few days ago in Portland, Oregon and you had a prophetic message and God spoke to you that there would be a currency war. What does a currency war mean?
Renny: Well, a currency war is really the battle of domination; it’s really based on domination and supremacy. It’s really who has the strongest currency really in the end will make the rules.
Sid: Well, did God give you any indication as to what we should do when this currency war occurs and it seems to me were seeing it happen before our very eyes.
Renny: Well, see that’s what God is giving…let’s see, let me tell you Brother Sid, this is why it’s the greatest time for the kingdom of God on the earth. Because there’s going to be, God is going to release an entrepreneur spirit on the church but, it has never had before. People are going to invent things, create things that they have never done before. People are going to get it in dreams, people are going to get it in visions, but they are going to have to respond to the Word of the Lord quickly, because that’s where your prosperity is. See Sid, one of the things the Lord taught me years ago was this, when the Spirit shifts so does the wealth and we have to discern what God is moving in. God is going to put people put together; when God puts people together he puts businesses together. A business doesn’t get put together unless people come together; and so there is a coming together.
Sid: You know I believe that’s going to work in the church also. I believe ministries are going to come together for God’s greatest hour. I can see that happening.
Renny: Oh yes, we haven’t seen anything yet, we are going to see, we’re going to see what I define as kingdom merges and acquisitions. We’re going to have ministers and churches come together that ordinary would not come together, but under the circumstances that’s coming on planet earth it’s going to bring everybody together. And it’s going to be the greatest empowerment the church has ever had. Because we’re one people, we’re one body and we’ve got the greatest resource the earth has ever known.
Sid: So what should someone do? I mean we can see that it almost looks like an orchestrated attempt to devalue the US dollar, to have tremendous inflation and we can see that it appears to be being orchestrated so we see that. What should we as believers be doing when we see that. We have our money in banks; we have it in US dollars what should we be doing?
Renny: The basic thing, I’m going to tell people, it’s going to be very simple; No. 1 Make sure you remain a tither. Make sure you remain a giver that’s No. 1 because the favor of God doesn’t rest without a tithe or an offering.
Sid: Let me tell you something crazy Renny. I am ready to build a 3 ½ million dollar state of the art TV studio with an auditorium where I’m going to equip the world to move in the supernatural when this wealth transfer occurs. And I’m breaking ground immediately even though I know the times were headed in, because God’s kingdom is not limited to our economy.
Renny: Oh, totally, totally, totally, totally, totally, totally and you see God is at His best when man’s at his worst. And I mean, I’m telling you Sid I see that state of the arts studio. It’s going to be phenomenal, I can see it as I’m talking to you, I really can see it and I’m not just saying it. I really can see it in my spirit. Oh definitely it’s the best of times, I mean this is not a time for us to fear. The best is yet to come forth on the earth so the thing that I’m going to say to people very simply number 1. Make sure you keep your tithing, make sure you keep your offering because you know, that’s the basis of the kingdom. The economy of God functions on the tithe and the offering. We understand that, that’s basic. But then God’s going to open up to you avenues of revenues and I want everybody here to hear that word and repeat it after me. Avenues of revenues.
Sid: Avenues of revenues.
Renny: In other words God has multiple streams of incomes for you, where your money is going to come back to you in. And He is going to supernaturally show you, he is going to show you your wealthy place. He’s going to show you where to put money and when to take money out. But the spirit of greed must not attach itself to your spirit. You must obey the instructions of God, because I’m telling you the best is yet to come. We haven’t seen anything the entrepreneur spirit is going to come on the people of God as never before.
Sid: I believe that you could worship God and we could worship God with you right now and God is going to do something special for those that are listening. Would you do that right now?
Renny: Yes, oh Sid before we worship let me tell you what I just saw in the Spirit, I just saw people’s properties that haven’t been able to get sold. I just heard the Lord say, if they worship the Lord said they would sell their properties. I just saw their properties being sold. I just saw people whose businesses were in debt I just saw the Lord wipe the slate clean and as it were give them a jubilee. I’m seeing this before we even worship. Father, right now we just worship you because right now you are putting favor on our properties, you’re selling what naturally cannot be sold in these times. Father we lift our hands right now, we declare your name. You are El Shadai, You are more than enough. Oh hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah. Singing in tongues
Sid: Singing in tongues.
Renny: I just see the window of heaven open, Brother Sid, I’m seeing all across America I’m seeing windows open from the west coast to the east coast and I’m seeing as it were golden bullions just begin to fall. I’m seeing it; I’m seeing it; I’m just seeing those portals open. I’m just seeing it, I’m just seeing it and the gold bullions there bright, their glistening bright. I’m just hearing the Lord say, He said my people shall never be ashamed for they will have more than enough for they will be a financial sign and a financial wonder in the times ahead. God’s preparing you for plenty. He’s preparing you for plenty; he’s preparing you for plenty. Brother Sid, that’s the word of Lord, He’s preparing His people for plenty; and He’s preparing His people for a wealth transference.
Sid: Speaking of wealth transference I just think that’s just so amazing in Akron, Ohio where someone had a credit card and literally gold dust fell on their credit card. What happened?
Renny: She used, this lady, I’ll never forget that lady, I’ll never forget her as long as I live. She was a sweet lady, she had been coming to the meetings for awhile but I didn’t know who this woman was. She had been visiting our meetings in Akron for awhile. And this is what happened Sid, she came in and she worshipped and the gold dust was falling, diamonds were falling and all of those, you know those things were fallen and manifesting. And it fell on this ladies credit card, and the Lord said to her when it touch her credit card, you know that her business things were going to through. The following day, now I think it was three days afterwards, she got a phone call from a government official and she was awarded a contract of $63,000,000.
Sid: Did you say $63,000,000?
Sid: I’m reminded of the scripture I’ve never seen the righteous forsaken nor their seed begging for bread. Even though you see something in the spirit that anyone reading in the newspaper sees actually happening in the United States of America and even the world; actually I believe it’s going to be the best of times for worshiper of God that know Jesus.
Renny: Oh one hundred percent it’s going to be the best yet, it’s the best yet. So you know, the secret of it is getting God’s people ready for it. There’s going to be a takeover and were the ones taking over, because we are head not the tail. If you sit under the glory you become a recipient of it; if you sit under faith it you know it just builds.
Sid: What if you sit under basketball and baseball and football?
Renny: Well, you begin to know the game real good.
Sid: You become the game, I think I want to become like God. I want to become breathing His atmosphere.
Sid: Jewish people are open to the gospel for the first time in 2,000 years; it’s the wrap up and we have to do what Jesus said we could do. We could walk in the same power that He walked in and then He makes it even better, He says that even greater. Well, I’m convinced that one of the keys for this greater power is taught by Peter Horrobin. And Peter, most people look at the diseases, but they don’t know the hidden roots of these diseases and that’s why there’s such a mystery involving healing. Explain what you mean by that.
Peter: You know well, the body reflects what’s going on in the inside. If you put a happy smiling face, I don’t look at you and say you got a happy smiling face. I say why are you feeling happy. Because your face is telling me something; and if you got a miserable looking face, I don’t say oh God gave you a miserable body, I say what’s gone wrong in your life? Because you’re feeling something on the inside and your body is telling me what’s going on. Now it is a very simple little illustration, but where the body can be a reflector of what’s happening on the inside. And there are some very important roots which, not that the root of all diseases, but some are key things in some people’s lives where there is resentment and unforgiveness, anger, bitterness and fear. And those things which controls deep on the inside, we then almost have to tiptoe around them so that we live in such a way that those things, we try and avoid them. So if you are afraid of something you avoid circumstances where you are going to face your fear. So your body…
Sid: For instance there’s are a lot of people afraid of public speaking and part of their DNA destiny from God is to speak publicly yet they’re so fearful they won’t do it.
Peter: Yeah, fear on the inside, they might be afraid of flying, they might be afraid of silly things like spiders and things like that and the fears on the inside can so grip us and so control us that we are limited in our potential in God; so that our life becomes smaller and smaller and smaller because the fear controls. Now, perfect love, the scripture says casts out fear. And, but its understanding what perfect love is. Now perfect love is not something soppy. It is not something which is artificial; it’s not something that you can buy in a candy shop. Perfect love is God looking right in our heart and being truthful with us. If He’s really truthful with us and we want Him to be, He will show us the roots of the issues in our life. Love doesn’t overlook things that need to be dealt with. Yes, we might want to bless somebody and we don’t allow the things in their life to stop us loving them. But if you really love somebody and you can see something that needs to be dealt with, you will face them with that in love. And the perfect love of Jesus says to each one of us, look at me and see the differences between where you’re at and where I am. We see in our life we see these resentments, we see these angers, we see these bitterness, we see these fears and things and say that’s not what Jesus is like; and Jesus says I want you to be like me. I want you to come up to where I am. I want you to face these things and I want to deal with them in your life. I want to get rid of your fears. I want to get rid of the things that are holding you back and I want to show you that where the roots of them so that I can heal them and you can know that they are healed.
Sid: Give me an example of someone that went through your seminar, took the “Freedom Series” and what happened to them.
Peter: Well, I’ll tell you the story of what happened in Florida. There was a lady, she was actually a Russian lady and her name was Olga and Olga was a lady with a twisted spine. She had scoliosis of the spine and it was costing her husband often in physical therapy to look after her, but she had been like this for years. And she had issues in her life going way back which made her fearful, which affected her relationships. But she knew that there was a physical thing there and she asked God to heal the physical many times. But you know, He hadn’t done it and it was only as we taught on forgiveness and dealing with fears and things that she remembered way back that when she was being brought up in Russia that she had been abused by Russian army officers and she buried it all and she asked the Lord to give her the heart to forgive what they had done. And the physical damage had come as a result of that. As she forgave, the fears began to lift off her and not only did the fears lift off her and the enemy leave her behind. She forgave and she was physically healed and her back was straight and she came into the conference the following day and said I undressed last night and I looked at myself in the mirror and my back is straight; and her husband confirmed it. See there was a physical thing which was an outworking of a spiritual and fears can be crippling; unforgiveness and bitterness can be crippling on the inside and our body reflects it.
Sid: You know there is a story that you talk about in your series, “Freedom Series” that is so wonderful, the eighteen year old girl who was given twelve months to live because of kidney disease.
Peter: I’ll never forget her, her name was Karen and she was asking for physical healing. She’d been in her local church, asked for prayer for healing and people had laid hands on her for healing but there was no healing. And she had a viral condition on both kidneys. The doctors had said that the only thing that can save your life is a double kidney transplant; and they said the chances of you getting that are very remote. And even if you got it, we cannot guarantee it will work. And she looked at me and said, I’m dying I have less than twelve months to live. And as I looked at her the Lord just spoke into my spirit and said, ask her about her mother. And I argued with God, I said there is nothing wrong with her mother. It is her kidney’s that are the problem. The Lord was persisting and I said, tell me about your mother. And she said, I don’t know anything about my mother. When my mother was sixteen she fell pregnant and I am the result and I was given away for adoption. And I looked at her in the face and I said, in that case you are a product of sexual sin. Have you ever thought to forgive your mother and your natural father for what they did? And she said, no. I said, have you ever thought to thank God that you were not aborted? And she said no. I said, would you do those things? Oh, yes! She thanked God that she wasn’t aborted, she forgave her mother, she forgave her father and as I prayed for her the Spirit of God came upon her and she felt something coming right up out of the bottom of her belly right up through her chest and she coughed this thing out. And I said, “How do you feel?” “Oh, I feel light; I feel something’s changed; something’s different. But her kidneys were still swollen and I got a lady member of my team to just lay her hands upon these kidney’s and pray in tongues for twenty minutes. I went off and prayed with somebody else and I came back twenty minutes later and I said to Karen, “How are the kidneys?” And she stood up straighter and said, “The swelling is gone.” The pain is gone; she bent over and touched her toes, told me she couldn’t bend at all before. She wrote to me six weeks later, she said I’ve been back to the hospital. The doctors said that they can no longer find any evidence of the viral condition. They told me to live a normal life and forget everything that she was told. When Jesus healed the inside, her body responded to healing. Until the inner healing had taken place her body wasn’t ready to receive the healing.
Sid: My guest is red hot for the Messiah. His name is Mel Bond, and I’m interviewing him on his book “Understanding Your Worst Enemy.” Now one of the things that impressed me is that you had miracle children because the doctor said that you couldn’t have children when you got rid of the spirits that were the demonic spirits that were stopping your wife from being pregnant and carrying the children to full birth. But the thing that I’m overwhelmed with is when your children were at a young age you taught them to rebuke evil spirits.
Mel: Absolutely, I think that it’s so simple that even Jesus made the statement in Matthew Chapter 18 right around verse 3, he says unless you become like a little child you can’t enter the kingdom of Heaven. And the kingdom of Heaven there, that particular teaching he wasn’t talking about the abode of God, but he was talking about the blessings of the Kingdom of God on this earth. If you remember in Matthew Chapter 6 just a few chapters before that the disciples came to Him and asked Him how to pray; and He says pray “Thy Kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth as it is in Heaven.” And so if it’s not so simple that a child can’t do it then it’s just not God. And so children can and I started teaching our children oh, as soon as they started talking. I would go into them when they would have fevers laying in their bed, I would just tell teach them that’s a spirit and you rebuke it. And I’m hear them in their bedroom just saying, “In Jesus name I take authority over this fever that by the stripes of Jesus I’m healed and that I can have what the Bible says I can have and you have to leave.” And those spirits would leave and those children as little children they would be free from colds and from fevers.
Sid: Well, you make this whole thing so simple. It really is isn’t it?
Mel: You know Sid, Jesus made it simple for us. He is just a good Jewish man.
Sid: Tell me about that heart surgeon that was healed at Wilson, North Carolina.
Mel: That was right around 1995 and I was preaching and while I was teaching and preaching and this is my custom I’m always looking at people just to see how I can be a blessing to them and get rid of problems and bless them. And I just happened to look and I had seen this guy and he as a guy probably about six foot, six foot one and probably weighed about 200 pounds 220 pounds and I had seen inside of his chest and I had seen and I can see it now; I had seen this demon up on the upper left hand artery and it was a small demon probably only four inches tall, basically had his arms and his legs wrapped around that upper artery on the left hand side and two major arteries on the bottom and there are two similar demons and they had their arms and legs wrapped around those arteries. And so I didn’t tell the man that I’d seen demons, cause a lot of time people that frightens them, I just told him I had seen a problem and I told them where those were at. And I said, I’m going to take care of that with the Name of Jesus, and so I did, I commanded it to leave and I commanded his heart region to surrender to the power of God, to the love of God. And he did and then he started speaking out and he started jumping and got pretty excited and it wasn’t a real large church, but there was probably three hundred people there and all the people got excited. And the reason was this man was a surgeon, I believe that he was a heart surgeon and he made the statement; he stood and told me he first of all he says, “I want to know where you got your medical training?” And I told him I said, “Well, you know I don’t have any medical training at all I’m just telling you want I saw.” What the Lord allows me to see in the spirit realm and to see and I just described what I saw. “Well, I’m a doctor and I think he said he a surgeon and he said, I have got x-rays describing exactly what you said and he said, I felt a relief in my chest and he says I was scheduled to have heart surgery in two more weeks and he said but the reason I came here was to prove that you are a fraud.” But he said, “Now I know that there is healing and that God is a miracle worker; and he said, “I feel it I’m free, I’m not going to have to have that surgery.”
Sid: Tell me about the service with the Lakota Indians on reservation.
Mel: Okay, this is one of the first times that I really learned that demons are not permanent, they move around. They are entities and so here I am at Par Melee on the Rosebud Indian Reservation where my family is a part of and I was doing a miracle service and there was probably 200 people there 250 something like that; and while I’m preaching all of a sudden I see, and I can see it right now, I see this man and on his back on the right hand side of his spinal column up towards his shoulder. Just a little bit lower than his shoulders and I’d seen a spirit and it sort of looked like it was sort of round but not totally round, but you know in other words it had a form and it had just like a whole bunch of legs like centipede legs that type of a thing; but it was pretty well flat like a leech and so I ask him. “Do you have a problem in your back right there?” He said, “No I don’t have a problem at all.” And then I said, “Well have you ever had a problem.” He said, “Never had a problem in that area at all.” And I said, “Well you know, I see something I need to take care of,” and so I commanded that spirit to leave; that spirit dropped to the floor and I could still remember dropping to the floor and crawling out the building and leaving and before it even got outside the building the man had a big smile on his face and he lifted his right arm all the way in the air and he says, “I don’t have no pain.” And then he told the story, “He said ten years prior to this I was playing football and I tore my rotator cuff, I had to have surgery and I could never raise my arm above my shoulder. I could never do that. Plus, I have lived with pain for ten years.” And he said, “Look at this.” And he raised his arm straight in the air as high as he could get his arm as high as humanly possible and he smiled with relief and he said, “I have no pain.” And so the Lord showed me many times when you start seeing in the spirit world that if you get rid of the root of the problem you can rid of the problem. And that spirit was the root of that problem and so sometimes you know that I have dealt with people that might have other problems, but I ‘d see a spirit maybe someplace in their stomach and I get rid of that and then all of a sudden it’s someplace else in their body they have relief.
Sid: Tell me about the time that the Lord showed you, it wasn’t based on how long you studied or how many days you fasted, to have the power for deliverance.
Mel: Many years ago it was in the middle ‘80s and I was really wanting more of God’s power wanting more of God’s influence on my life and so I perceived this voice coming to me and telling me Mel, what you need to do is you need to double up on your Bible reading. So I doubled up on my Bible reading and after a couple of months instead of things getting better things were worse. Then I perceived that same voice come back to me and said, Mel what you need to do is double up on your prayer life. So I doubled up on my prayer life after a month or so things were even worse than ever before. Then I perceived that voice telling me, Mel what you need to do is fast and pray. And if you fast and pray, that’s going to do it. So I started fasting and praying and after about a week things were worse than ever and the only thing that I had was hungry. I was hungry and I was depressed, so extremely depressed, frustrated, disappointed, and so many times people in this world, the same thing Christians pray and we don’t get results and we wonder why. So any way I got angry and I got angry at God and I said, I’m not going to pray no more, I’m not going to read my Bible no more. Now, I’m a pastor I’d been pasturing for several years. I said I’m not doing these things; in fact I’m going to go eat and eat anything I want. And so that’s the way that I lived and I did that for about a week and then during the night session I heard this heavy heavy footsteps in our living room and our bedroom was all the way down at the hall; and I heard these footsteps going down the hallway and it sounded like somebody that had scaly feet, scales just like an alligators’ back or something where you could just hear it and I heard it and it sounded sort of like, shoo, shoo, shoo coming down the hallway. And I’m thinking what in the world is that? And so I sat up in bed and I called our oldest daughter whose name is Cherish, “What do you want?” What are you doing?” And then I watched and I could still see that round doorknob in that house, the doorknob turned and the door opened and in walked satan. And just to see him was extremely horrifying every, you know I’m not a very hairy person but every hair on my body and on my body, but every hair on my body and on my arm absolutely stood up. I had sweat that secreted out of every pour in my body and I was soaking wet within two seconds. Just soaking wet with fear and with perspiration and I rebuked him. I said I rebuke you in Jesus name you have to leave I have authority over you and he just laughed and he said no you can’t rebuke me you don’t have authority. He said, God told you to double your reading, double your prayer, fast and you’re not doing any of those things. I thought in my mind, he’s right how did he know that? So I don’t have authority over him, because I haven’t been doing what God told me to do. And then he just laughed the most hideous laugh and it drove like horrible defeat in my spirit, I felt like a maggot was now my god, my lord that’s the way that I kind of felt, like a maggot was my master and then he just disappeared. And so I was extremely depressed. More depressed than you could imagine, even suicidal and this went on for about a week or two and then I crawled out of bed one night, because I couldn’t sleep at all. I went into the other room, laid on the floor, I began to pray, forgot all my Thee and Thou’s and trying to quote scripture perfectly and I just cried out to God like a little child I said dear God, if you’ll just tell me what you want me to do, you know I’ll do anything you want me to do. I don’t care what it is, I just need to know. I need to know what you need me to do. I didn’t hear audibly, I’ve heard God speak to me in audible voice before, but this time I didn’t hear God speak in audible voice, I didn’t see anything and I have seen in the past, but I knew that God was there in all His fullness and I perceived Him saying, “Mel, I’m here and I want you to know that you’re my child based on what I’ve done, not on what you’ve done or what you could ever do.” And he said, “Mel, I want to you know you have authority over the devil based on what I’ve done not based on what you’ve done.”
Sid: My guest is red hot for the Messiah and he says, “Everyone that is born from above can be red hot for the Messiah.” “Everyone that is born from above can have intimacy with God.” “Everyone that is born from above can hear God’s voice.” “Every one that is born from above can operate in the gifts of the Spirit.” His name, Glenn Arekion, I have his brand new book “The Power of Praying Tongues Unleashing the Supernatural Dimension in You” and his brand new CD, which has; by the time you hear these 101 reasons why to pray in tongues. This is why we put the title in those that have not broke through, he will lead you step by step to breakthrough but the ones that have broken through he’s going to literally, and this is the title of the CD “Be Your Personal Trainer for the Supernatural.” And Glenn, I’m curious, when many years ago I read a book by Oral Roberts and he said that he developed a written rhythm if you will in praying in his supernatural language. He would pray in unknown tongues in his supernatural language and then he would begin to interpret it and then he would go back into his language and then he would begin to interpret it. Now what about you, how does that work with you?
Glenn: Yes, I’ve done that many times before; I’ve gotten myself out of problem out of a situation by just praying in the Spirit and interpret. I was in Ghana for the first time when I was twenty-one years old. I was in the Ivory Coast and I was on my way back to London and I had to make a stopover in a croc in Ghana and when I got off the plane the immigration people said that everyone that came from Ivory Coast needs to go back. I said that I’m not going back there because I’m not from Ivory Coast. I’m going back to London. They said, no everybody is going back to the Ivory Coast. I said Sir, I’m not Ivorian I need to go back to London and they will let me go back. Where am I going to go back to Ivory Coast? Well I’m going to put you in jail. It’s like when I heard the word jail I began to pray in the Spirit out loud because this guy wanted me to go back to Ivory Coast a place which was not my nation and he wanted to just get me locked up over there. So I needed to go back home to London and I didn’t know how to get back there because this gentleman was saying no, everybody on that plane is going back to the Ivory Coast. So I began to pray in the Spirit and pray in my supernatural language; in tongues out loud not knowing what to do. As I began to pray I heard this voice and I interpreted, there’s a gentleman over there go and see that man and give him your passport. Now by that time my plane had already left. So I was already in a fix, such a bad situation. When I went to give my passport to that man by the interpretation of tongues that gentleman which wanted to send me back to Ivory Coast said, “Don’t you dare do that, I’m not talking to you.” I gave that man my passport and he came back a half hour later and gave me a brand new ticket to go on British Airways back to London. Now I didn’t pay on British Airways to go back to London. I was on Ghana Airways to go back to London.
Sid: So how did that happen?
Glenn: By just praying in tongues and then I interpreted; the Holy Spirit led me to the right person and he got me brand new ticket and I didn’t pay nothing for it.
Sid: You know what? Just as you were starting on that story there was a release of the presence of the glory of God, of the manifest presence of God. I believe that if you will pray in unknown tongues right now God’s going to release something. I don’t know if it’s going to be healing, I don’t know what, but God’s up to something right now. Would you pray?
Glenn: You want me to pray in tongues?
Glenn: Yes Sir. (Praying tongues) Thank you Lord. Father we release healing somebody’s ears right now popped wide open, in the Name of Jesus. Somebody right now believing God for a heart problem to go. I believe right now that heart attack is gone. Restored, restored from the effects of a heart attack right now. Somebody’s left eye which is blind be open right now in the Name of Jesus. I believe there is somebody believing God for supernatural promotion on the job and they have been overlooked in times past, but God is saying that that promotion that you applied for will come to you in the Name of Jesus.
Sid: I just feel such a presence, I don’t know about you Glenn, but I just feel such a tangible presence of the living God. As a matter of fact I heard that someone that has any problem at all in their spine or their back or their hip if you will just bend over right now you will bend into your healing. Now it’s, I also believe that there are people with arthritis in their fingers and if you will start moving your fingers and if you have carpal tunnel move your hands you’ll see that you’re…oh it’s so strong in backs right now and necks. It’s moved up the necks and head area all migraines are gone. I believe this is a breakthrough, but even more important Glenn, I believe it such a breakthrough when people hear your brand new CD, “Your Personnel Trainer for the supernatural” and you read your brand new book “The Power of Praying in Tongues.” Whet our appetite. What will praying in tongues do for those that are listening to us right now?
Glenn: When you begin to pray in tongues your life will change. It will develop intimacy with God, when you pray in tongues you’ll release angels to bring about deliverance into your life. When you begin to pray in tongues you will edify your spirit man; no longer depression in your life; it is pulling treasure, the treasure of God out of you. It is…you are going to tap into the creativity of Elohim. When you begin to pray in tongues you will overrule and overturn any death assignment against your life. You will reverse demonic assignment against you well being. It will remove you from the limitations of the flesh to God’s abundant supply of the Spirit. Tongues is helping you make demands of upon the power of God. It will be the beginning of you being led by the Holy Spirit. It will open up the Heavens over your life and bring down the reign of the Holy Spirit and you will charge the atmosphere over your life. Every prison doors, every closed prison door in your life will be unlocked by the power of praying in supernatural language. And most of all you will release the winds of God in your life that will bring about deliverance; just like God caused a wind to open the red sea any obstacle in your way right now as you pray in the Holy Spirit will split the obstacle and you will be able to walk through the other side.
Sid: What about someone that says, you know I have just plain tired. Have you ever reached a point Glenn, when you’ve been tired and what did you do about it?
Glenn: You know, I travel extensively and I mean I’m always on the plane spending a lot of hours in planes and in the airports. And you know when you’re traveling and crossing time zones it gets your body all out of wack and so many times when I get off the plane I have to go straight to the hotel and go straight to the service; and many times I feel tired and my body is totally tired and there is no energy left inside of me. But this is what I do every time I’m tired I begin to pray in the Spirit even though I can start out such as whispering it or under my breath just begin to pray slowly, quietly. But the more I begin to pray the scriptures say you edify yourself, you’re building your house, you’re building your body; you’re releasing that energy of God in your body. So I just pray in the Spirit, I just pray in tongues and allow the energy of God, the life of God the Zoe kind of life to permeate my body and that strengthens me and it gives me life.
Sid: Now, very briefly tell me about your niece when she had this asthma attack.
Glenn: Now, in my family you know before I got saved, I know my two uncles and one Aunt died of asthma attack and my little niece, Kelly for some reason that day I was just lead by the Spirit of God, being sensitive to His voice and I just spent hours praying in the Spirit. I did not know why, I was just happy to I would just pray in the Spirit. I thought that there was an unusual freedom to just pray in tongues. But, about one o’clock or two o’clock in the morning my phone rang and it was my brother on the other line and he said you better quickly get to the hospital because Kelly, my little niece had been taken to the hospital she had an asthma attack and she is not responding to anything. So I drove to the hospital just praying the Spirit, just praying in tongues. And when I got there I walked into the ICU and I looked at her and the doctor said that she is not responding and she is in a coma and we are trying everything, we’re trying our best, but she is not responding. And seeing all the tubes in her and there lies a lifeless body, a little kid on the table there and didn’t know what to do. But we just kept praying and praying. We could feel death around us, we could feel that demonic oppression of the enemy trying to steal the life of a child and we just kept praying. Not being moved by what we see or what we feel but just believing in the goodness of God. Believing in the power of God and we just kept praying the language of God over her body. Just kept praying over her, kept praying. And they kept saying she is not responding, she is not responding. But I’ll tell you what; we made our mind up just to pray in the Spirit. So me and my brother, I just kept praying and praying and speaking life to her and as we kept and pressed in the Spirit we eventually broke that curse and she has never had an asthma attack since then.
Sid: Woops were out of time. Mishpochah we want his brand new book, “The Power of Praying in Tongues.” If you don’t pray in a supernatural language you’ll be walked through this between the book and the CD “Your Personnel Trainer for the Supernatural.” If you do you will be mentored to be able to break through and be a champion for God.