Sid: My guest is red hot for the Messiah, God has had picked him to have revelation knowledge to prepare the way for the return of the Messiah. And what am I talking about? …His teaching on understanding the times for the first time you’re going to be able to connect the dots in the book of Revelation and end times and current events. You are going to understand the hidden agenda of Islam, you’re going to understand some of the mysteries and they can’t they must not be mysteries to you about the book of Revelation. You are going to understand how the Jewish temple is going to be rebuilt right next to the mosque and there’s many Arabs as well as Jews that are in favor of this and the reasons for it. But Joel, on yesterday’s broadcast you articulated very clearly who mystery Babylon was and you explained that it is Saudi Arabia and especially in Revelation 17 & 18 and Isaiah 15 and Jeremiah 50, 1 Peter 5:13 you go by brilliantly point by point of the scriptures and show all the other nations cannot qualify based on what the scriptures say. And only Saudi Arabia can qualify, just briefly tell us a few reasons why it’s Saudi Arabia that they are the Harlot, Mystery of Babylon.
Joel: One of the interesting criteria that the Bible lays out for us is that it says that this woman will sit in an Arab mote or a Arab maun which when translated is desert. And of course, if we are talking about the Vatican or Rome or the United States, they don’t sit in a desert and this is not just sort of a allegorical symbolic term that we should throw away, all evidence points to it being a literal reference to the region where this woman is pictured. Another significant issue is that Saudi Arabia is a rabid consumer. In Revelation 17 and 18 the Harlot is a rabid consumer. Saudi Arabia doesn’t produce anything other than oil. They literally import everything, the nations of the earth will feel the wrath of this woman’s false religion; as we discussed yesterday Saudi Arabia is the premier financier of terrorism of radical Islamic terrorism throughout the earth.
Sid: It talks about extravagant luxury, why does Saudi Arabia qualify?
Joel: Saudi Arabia is unlike any other nation of the world, a nation run by a family that is drowning in wealth. And when you look at the examples of Saudi luxury it absolutely surpasses anything, any American President and any American actor, real estate mogul anyone that you can point to. Bill Gates, you know these Saudi princes have so much money to throw around and the amount of luxury in excess that they live in is unparalleled and it meets that description that we see reiterated in Revelation.
Sid: Okay and another thing it says is that the people in the earth will commit fornication with this great harlot.
Joel: This is one of the most significant and important criteria and what this means is that the word fornication, it needs to be realized that this is not adultery. A lot of believers have said that this indicates that whoever this woman is that she existed in preexisting covenant with God and then broke it. That would be adultery. The word used in Greek if not adultery, but fornication and essentially what that means is that if anyone throughout the earth that does not worship their creator, the one true God of the Bible then they are involved in idolatry and that’s fornication and in the Old Testament there are examples of pagan cities such as Nineveh and Tier that were called fornicators because they were involved in idolatry. And so Saudi Arabia today again they fund, they spread, they export ideology; the radical Islamic ideology throughout the nation.
Sid: Give me an example of what they’re doing to the American Universities right in the open.
Joel: Oh, oh for sure there is one prince that is very worthy of taking note of; this is Prince Alwaleed bin talal, he’s one of the wealthiest of all the Saudi Princes and he throws money around left and right to promote the Islamic cause. The Harvard University, Georgetown University for instance he gave them each 20 million dollars to establish what they’ll call is a Islamic Studies Program. Which ultimately amounts to nothing more than a Saudi Arabian Wahabee propaganda studies program to spread radical Islam, or to spread the you know, looking at Islam favorably throughout the earth. And here’s what’s amazing, that Prince Alwaleed comes over to the United States and he lectures these Universities on the United States needing to be more tolerant. And the irony here is so fixed…
Sid: But when I think of Harvard University, I think of a large Jewish population and maybe I’m wrong, how in the world did the Jewish students put up with that?
Joel: Well, again the way that the Islamists work is they preach out of one side of their mouth a peaceful and tolerant form of Islam, and they lecture us and they demand that we are more tolerant; but then back in their own country they don’t allow a single synagogue, church or any other religious institution be built other than a mosque. So you know they play both sides and we here in the west, who have been ham strung by moral and cultural relativity we welcome it and we say yes, absolutely we of all people need to be more tolerant.
Sid: Now, could it be that former President Bush spread the lie and that’s what it was that Islam is a peace loving religion because of his long family ties with the Saudi royalty?
Joel: Yeah, few people realize the depth that there is in regards to the Bush family, going back to Bush, Sr., Bush, Jr. with the Saudi Princes. Prince Bandar was the Saudi Arabian Ambassador to the United States for many many years. And he is a deep close close friend of the Bush family and we need to realize that this individual over the years has been seen making statements which indicate that he does support radical Islam to a degree, very very close friends to the family.
Sid: Why does someone like former president Jimmy Carter bash Israel so much? Is there an ulterior motive that you know of?
Joel: Well, I think that that can be answered with three words, money, money, money. When you look at the history of Carter’s relationship with the Saudi’s he’s never come out and opened up how much money they have donated to him and given to him in various gifts, but it is in the tens of millions, perhaps even more. And you know that anybody that think that ten, twenty, thirty, forty, fifty million dollars doesn’t have an impact on somebody, they’ve never heard the term black male or the Saudi lobby and so forth; this has deeply impacted the approach that Carter has taken, he will openly bash Israel and refer to Israel as a partied nation. And he will never once mention the human right violations that are so ramped in the nation of Saudi Arabia. This is blatant hypocrisy and that’s what the Saudi’s get with their ten and millions of dollars put in the back pocket of even American President.
Sid: Okay, what about someone like our Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton or her husband former President, Bill Clinton?
Joel: Well, just before the election it was revealed that the Clinton’s had to open up their donation list and what we saw was that Bill and Hillary had received over 30 million dollars from Saudi and Gulf Arabs. Whether it’s Bush, whether its Carter, whether it’s Clinton, whether it’s Obama.
Sid: Wha…what did Obama get?
Joel: Obama, history at least those who have studied this say that he was funded, that he went to college he was college he was funded by Saudi princes and there were some radical black nationalists that converted to Islam and had ties to the Saudi family and through that Obama was funded. That his university education was funded and that today, to this day he still has ties to the Saudi Arabian government. When we look at the scripture, I think that it’s very clear that the kings of the earth commit adultery with her. This is one of the premier descriptions of the harlot when we look at the greatest most significant leaders, the kings of the earth so to speak, we see that every one of them is literally committing adultery with the Saudi princes.
Sid: Okay, now if we see this harlot is Saudi Arabia then who is the beast and define the beast based on scripture?
Joel: Sure, the beast is a coalition of ten nations and many other nations that will be involved with them that will come together in the last days and form the final manifestation of beast Empire. In Revelation 13, it says that the beast had a fatal head wound and then it came back. In essence it is referring to an empire that appeared dead and then was revived. Well, as I mention and as I discuss, in my DVD set, the primary nations that will make up the emerging beast empire, the nations of Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, Iran, Iraq, Sudan, and Libya. These are the nations that will make up the revived Islamic empire. Now that head wound that the beast suffers a lot of Christians believe that it’s referring to the man and the anti Christ but the motive of the beast comes from Daniel 7 and its referring first, in primarily to an empire. For over five hundred years the nation of Turkey ruled the Middle East.
Sid: But, wait a second, where does Gog and Magog come in? Isn’t that Russia?
Joel: Well, that’s what many many people say, unfortunately if you look at Ezekiel …
Sid: Whoops were out of time let’s pick up right there on tomorrow’s broadcast…