Sid: My guest Dr. Catherine Millard; she is the Founder and President of the Christian Heritage Ministry and Christian Heritage Tours located in Northern Virginia. We’re interviewing her on her book “The Rewriting of American History.” There’s no way we can cover all of these important points, but I can tell you as a fact speaking first hand this is revolutionary to me because I was taught with revisionist history. In your book you talk about Christopher Columbus. And you were telling a few things just before we went on the air, that my Mishpochah must here.
Catherine: Ah, yes he wrote one book and I have the facsimile pages of the folio pages of his book entitled. “Book of Prophesies.” I’ll just quote a little bit to you. “At a very early age”…this is the introduction, Christopher Columbus speaking. At a very early are I began to sail upon the ocean. For more than 40 years I’ve sailed everywhere that people go. I prayed to the most merciful Lord about my heart’s great desire and He gave me the Spirit and the intelligence for the task. It was the Lord with my mind; I could feel His hand upon me. The fact that it would be possible to sail from here to the Indies. All that heard of my project rejected it with laughter, ridiculing me. There is no question that the inspiration was from the Holy Spirit because He comforted me with rays of marvelous illumination form the scriptures. A strong inter-testimony in me from the Old Testament and from the four Gospels and the 24 Epistles of the blessed apostles encouraging me continually to press forward. And without ceasing for a moment they now encourage me to make haste. Our Lord Jesus decides to perform a very obvious miracle in the voyage to the Indies to comfort me and the whole people of God. I spent 7 years in the royal court discussing the matter with many persons of great reputation and wisdom in all of the arts. And in the end they concluded that it was all foolishness; so they gave it up. And since things generally come to pass that were predicted by our Savior Jesus Christ we should also believe that this particular prophesy will come to pass. In support of this I offered the Gospel text Matthew 24:34 in which Jesus said “That all things would pass away but not His marvelous word. He also affirmed that it was necessary that all things be fulfilled that were prophesied by Himself and by the prophets. I said that I would state may reasons. I hold alone to the sacred and holy scriptures “It is possible wrote Christopher Columbus that those that see this book will accuse me of being unlearned in literature, being a layman and a sailor. I replied with the words of Matthew 11:25 “Lord, because I have put these things from the wise and the prudent and revealed them unto babes. The holy scripture testifies in the Old Testament by our Redeemer Jesus Christ that the world must come to an end. The signs when this must happen were giving by Matthew, Mark, and Luke. The prophets also predicted many things about it. Our Redeemer Jesus Christ said that “Before the end of the world all things must come to pass that had been written by the prophets.” For the execution of the journey to the Indies I did not make use of intelligence, mathematics or maps. It is simply the fulfillment of what Isaiah had prophesied. Now when Christopher Columbus is talking about the Prophet Isaiah it’s theme scripture for his book of prophesies. Isaiah 66:19 where God speaks through this prophet who lived 1715 years before Christ was born, the Messiah was born that his word and his glory must go to unknown coast lands, islands, tribes, nations and peoples before the end came. And Christ came back in great glory. And Columbus concludes, all this is what I desire to write down in this book. I said (Wrote Christopher Columbus) that some of the prophesies remain yet to be fulfilled. Is a great and a wonderful thing for the earth. And the signs are that the Lord is hastening the end; the fact that the gospel must still be preached to so many lands in such a short time. This is what convinces me. Now Ferdinand Columbus his, son, his first son was Don Diego, but I have consulted Ferdinand Columbus’s book in the Rare Book Collection on his father’s voyages and his father’s life. And he actually states that his father was hand picked by Almighty God before birth to take the gospel to the Indian nation and this continent. Who had been made a prey of Satan, the Devil and that he had plucked them out. He was to pluck them out which he did out of the prey of the Devil to become citizens of the Kingdom of Eternal life. And that his name Christopher meant Christ bearer for that very fact. He signs his names on all of his letters, I have reproduced his signature in my book “Rewriting America’s History,” exposes the New Testament Greek for Christ the Anointed One; our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and then Serene in Spanish which means bearer. Which is a very exciting story and Christopher stayed upon scripture and prayer.
Sid: And it shows that we had even a godly finding our nation; discovering our nation. And then the information that you have in your book on the founding fathers and it’s so contrary to what we’re taught in public schools. Every young person in America, every old person in America must read this book. I think that you’re going to find it fascinating Mishpochah. But I want to dwell a bit on an area that is very popular in the news. The separation of church and state. And they say that “If you study the original documents, that was the intent of our founding fathers; what would your response be?
Catherine: No, that’s not the case actually from original documents again. Separation of the church by the interference by the state is the term the finding fathers used. And it goes back to Thomas Jefferson in 1786 saying a statutes for religious religious freedom in Virginia which went for Congress that year. Pushed through by his great friend James Madison and in it; it’s actually accepted on the inner walls of the Jefferson Memorial as well. And in it Jefferson just establishes the state controlled Anglican Church which was corrupt and the clergy was England and the hierarchy controlled the worship system of the people. And all the mainline persons of denominations like the Baptist, Mennonites, Quakers, Presbyterians, Methodist, they all had to go to the Anglican controlled church before the statutes for religion freedom in Virginia 1786 went through congress. And they had to pay the taxes or tithes that was controlling their worship system because they had to go to the Anglican state controlled church. Well, Jefferson wisely as Madison knowing the scriptures so well as they both did; I could prove that too in my book you’ll see that in Jefferson’s and Madison’s chapters. But they knew that was sinful and radical to use Jefferson’s own words in the same document and to force people to go to state controlled church and so they set them free. And the Baptist was greatly applauded Jefferson and greatly appreciated of being set free as the other denominations. So a year later which was 1787 when they framed the founders frame they gave us the Constitution, Philadelphia and also framed the Bill of Rights because of that problem of the state controlling the worship system of the people. This was established the year before the Anglican state control it had been disestablished they put in the first amendment and that Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion. Because the Anglican state control church had been the established church. Or prohibiting free exercise there of. Like prohibiting the Baptist from going in and worshiping in their own mode. And then captive on to prison other denominations, protestant denominations. So it was separation of church from inference by the state. About 40 or 50 years ago the ACLU took that phrase out of context. They took it backwards and they got actually, if you really want to know where it comes from it comes from the Soviet Constitution, the 24th article.
Sid: (Laughing)
Catherine: Of the Soviet Constitution, that there shall be separation from church and state and there shall be separation of…
Sid: So it’s a communist doctrine.
Catherine: Well, I believe so; because there’s no political official proclamation or writing of any finding father.
Sid: Well, if Thomas Jefferson could have the last word right now about the separation of church and state, what do you think he’d say?
Catherine: Well, I’m reading from his letter of the Danby Baptist Association it’s a page and a half long letter thanking them for setting them free from their statutes and their statutes of religious freedom of Virginia. It’ in my book, I’m believing with you. That’s Fundamental Bible Believing Baptist. And you couldn’t get any more Bible believing than they and scriptural than they. That religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God. And it’s to account to none-other for his faith or his worship. Let the legislative powers of government reach actions only and not opinions. And then he quotes the first amendment that they put in into the Bill of Right. I contemplate with sovereign reference that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should “Make no law” respecting an establishing a religion or prohibiting the free exercise of there of. And this is the last line of his page and a half long letter. Responding to the Dandy Baptists in Connecticut their applause at setting them free to worship in their own mode. That’s building a wall of separation between church and state. But that’s the only place you find it and it’s of any founding father and it’s an unofficial off the record nonpolitical letter. And it begins a page and a half long before that last line. And it clearly explains in that letter that the government will no longer be able to interfere with the worship system of the…
Sid: Well, I’ll tell you well our time is slipping away Mishpochah.
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