Sid: My guest is a former; I use the word radical Muslim Shiite background from the Middle East Reza Safa. Reza there’s something that is bothering me that you’re the best person to help me out. In Christianity in Judaism we have normal Judaism, normal Christianity, and then we have religious Judaism, and religious Christianity. We don’t call normal Christianity radical we call it normal. But in Islam they have what they call radical Islam; what is different between radical Islam, and someone that follows the Koran with all of their heart?
Reza: Well, actually a radical Islam and a radical Muslim like I was, like a person like Ben Laden he is a true Muslim he is the one that keeps the law the Sharia law; he’s the one who reads the Koran and obeys the commandment because of the nature of the Koran is so violent. And so when somebody acts that out or somebody obeys that then they consider him a radical or somebody who’s just you know exaggerated the practice what when in reality that’s the true Muslim.
Sid: So, we might say a normal Muslim is radical, a true Muslim is radical is that fair?
Reza: That’s fair.
Sid: How fast is Islam growing in the United States and in other countries and around the world?
Reza: Well, some according to some stats Islam is it’s know to be one of fastest growing religion in the world and that’s not so much do to it’s message but do to it practices. And Islam has been successful in areas where there’s a lot of poverty; for instance one example Hamas goes to Southern Lebanon into Beirut area into the poor neighborhood and establish the money that comes from Iran and Saudi Arabia. They establish schools and they establish hospitals, and help the poor people. In Africa for instance, I’ve been there many times. They build the school in a village where their animus and they say “Whoever, all the kids are welcome to use this school if you convert to Islam.” And so that’s how they’re growing, in America in inner cities they are successful because the nation of Islam goes into the inner city and the prisons and clear out the neighborhoods from drug dealers and now they convert them a lot of these kids who are just without father, without mother without proper education and convert them into their faith.
Sid: Now, in our US government because we have a democracy, a republic we actually have people that are in our congress that are sworn in on the Koran, we actually have well the President of United States during Ramadan has special events in the White House.
Reza: Right.
Sid: Is there anything wrong with this?
Reza: I believe so you know last year when President Bush wish is by the way it’s been his practice since 911 that he invites the heads of Islamic movements into the White House and breaks the fast with them during the end of Ramadan. And he added a Koran to the library of the White House. The Lord spoke to me He said, “Because of what he has done he’s opening the gates for the spirits of Islam to invade this land.” And of course after that day since last year is more and more Koran, more and more you know; we found out recently that Saudi Arabia for instance is with their money coming to America to the universities and establish the school of Wahobes with their own theological schools in the universities the United States. Here in Tulsa, Oklahoma our university the TU University paid $400,000 to build a mosque for the Muslim population of the student of the universities.
Sid: Now I’m going to make a crazy statement I have no facts to go on help me out, I’m not saying this is from God, but this is just something I think. I think every mosque in America is a potential Mecca for terrorism, would you comment on that.
Reza: I believe everywhere there is a Muslim who believes in the Koran, obeys and prays five times a day that Moslem is a potential to obey Surah chapter 9 verse 5. “Slay the pagans wherever you find them.” That’s the commandments in the Koran; so if you believe in it, if you obey it that’s the commandment.
Sid: What does the Koran say about Christians, and what is a normal Muslim think of Christians, not what he says, but on the inside?
Reza: A Muslim you know a Christian is an infidel to a Muslim, here is Surah references the Koran chapter 5 verse 14 it says, “From those two who call themselves Christian, we did take a covenant but they forgot a good part of the message that was sent them. And so we estranged them with enmity and hatred between the one and the other to the day of judgment and soon Allah will show them what they have done.” In Surah 9 verse 29 and in verse 5 it says “Slay those who believe not in Allah nor at last they now hold us for what is forbidden by Allah, nor acknowledge the religion of truth; even if they are the people of the Book.” Meaning the Jews and the Christians so in other words a Christian, my sister for instance here’s their practice. My sister loves me to death, when she came to see me for the first time in Spain when I was there four years after my conversion, every time she touched me she washed her hands, every time she kissed me she washed her face. I knew what she was doing because I use to practice this but I wanted to challenger her I said, “What are you doing, she said, “You are unclean to me.” And so although she loves me to death she would give her life for me but I am unclean. Now you imagine if you treat your blood like that what would you do with a foreign? So Christians are in Arabic they’re known as Moshreck, those who find partners unto God and they are worthy of dying.
Sid: Now President Bush has on record that he wants his legacy to be when he leaves the White House the president that set up the two state solution in the Middle East. The nation of Palestine and the nation of Israel; what do you think of that?
Reza: You know when he began this process peace process the Lord spoke to me and I wrote him three page letter, one of the former wife of the FBI called me, she had read my book “Inside Islam” she had called me, she said, “Reza you need to talk to the President.” I said, “Mam they are not going to listen to me, I’m just a pea in a big pot. She said, “No please, she said I won’t leave you until you call him.” So I said “Okay, I’ve written to letter and I will send that letter to him, so she gave me a number and I called and I sent the letter and of course with no response.” I believe with all of my heart that our politicians including our President with all due respect they do not understand the radical Islam.
Sid: Normal Islam; is what I believe but go ahead.
Reza: The peace process you have to understand has nothing to do with that piece of property in Israel. The hatred against the Jews has been since the time of Mohammed again going back to Mohammed and his tradition the Jews rejected him, the Christians accepted Mohammed, but the Jews rejected him because he couldn’t be a prophet of Jehovah God because he wasn’t a Jew he wasn’t the son of David. So from beginning revelation came to Mohammed that the Jews are the enemy of Islam so that hatred has been practiced. The killing of the Jews has been practiced even before 1947 the state of Israel. So in other words this peace process is based upon ignorance that the dividing of the land will not bring peace to Israel period.
Sid: It just, I mean if I was not someone that believes in God and I just understood the nature of Islam I would have to come to that conclusion. I’m holding in my hands a very special book, it’s called “Inside Islam, Exposing and Reaching the World of Islam.” What kind of feedback are you getting from your book?
Reza: Actually that book has been translated to several languages and we’ve had tremendous responses both from Muslims and Christians. You know Kenneth Copeland took this book, they had a 3000 misprint and he took those 3000 misprints and sent them into the prisons. And as you know in maximum security prisons we have a lot of problem with radical Islam. Some of those Imam’s read this book knowing that they are going to collect more knowledge about Islam and they converted back to Christianity by reading that book. So it’s been tremendous knowledge, many of our politicians have read that. We had a lady in Austria bought two cases of this and sent it to every Parliament member.
Sid: Why should a Christian read your book?
Reza: Because we need to understand what we are facing, we need to understand who it is who we are facing. We need to understand what is the condition of the end-time and this religion is the forerunner of the anti-Christ and we need to know what they believe in.
Sid: Well, God recently spoke to you about what’s going on with Israel and the United States and Muslim countries right now prophetically which will talk about later on in the week. But your book “Inside Islam.” If you call yourself and Christian and you don’t understand, what’s going on with Islam in England right now?
Reza: You know Sid as you know for the past thirty years that entire has become Islamtized, you have 100’s of churches that have turned into mosques. England they have actually have affected the Parliament the constitution of England, of the British Constitution has been changed. It used to be the protector of faith singular now it’s the protector of faiths plural. Now and in his inauguration he’s invited the heads of the Islamic Community for his correlation to lay hands on him in the name of Allah. Here is a nation that produced John Wesley and great men, Jonathan Edwards, and now is becoming everywhere you go and every store they sell Hallah meat. Islamic law has influenced every aspect of their faith.
Sid: Is that their goal for the United States too?
Reza: I believe so.
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