Sid: I’ve been speaking all of this week with Dave Roberson Senior Pastor of Family Prayer Center in Tulsa, Oklahoma. He has been teaching on the basics of fasting that’s been revolutionizing people all over the world. On yesterday’s broadcast we’ve were talking about a simple fisherman. Dave and he was locate where the Amazon?
Dave: Yes Sid I believe the Amazon State along the Amazon River.
Sid: Before we even go to him to do this teaching why do you need to get these cassettes out to as many people as possible?
Dave: Sid in my walk with God as I discovered praying in tongues as a revelation gift and my life began to increase and the anointing on it. Then I found out there was ceilings of flesh that were destroyed through fasting and a combination of prayer and fasting a Jesus said caused devils to come out and destroy unbelief and all of these kinds of things. Well it builds with indifference and complacency and causes, you know that love Jesus’s is talking about which is compassion. And it does away with that old flesh that competition spirit. You know who’s got….who’s doing a greater work who’s more anointed who has more people. See those things of the flesh that if Jesus taught through prophecy in Isaiah 58 that fasting you deal your bread to the hungry and that you hide not yourself from your own flesh that whatever it is that’s in me that just didn’t care the day that you decide to fast is the day that you’re not going to hide anymore from whatever is in you that just doesn’t care. Well through fasting the Lord is able to destroy indifference and complacency and build compassion in me. And I lost that old competition spirit now there’s a principal the word has called the sower overtakes the reaper. I’ve been in ministry 27 years and it was a fisherman that fisherman along the Amazon and the Amazon State in Brazil I had the privilege of teaching him for 5 years. I would go for twice a year to Brazil and teach them 6 hours a day for a week a gathering of preachers. So this particular one I was able to sow 27 years of my life making of mistakes finding the right path keeping, praying, edifying him growing in fasting. And I was able to sow into his life in 5 years what took me 27 to produce. So now this fisherman whose only 5 years old in the teaching that got the tapes that I taught, in Portuguese of course translated, in 5 years Sid what’s taken me 27 he’s overtaking my harvest in 5 years. And he’s such a simple fisherman that he just throws his net and fishes. But now they come in by the groves and lay their sick at his feet and he pays for them and there’s miracles and people are being swept into the kingdom of God.
Sid: Could he have just been one of those warehouse pastors that they talk about they’re just warehouse Christians that though they stay saved so they can go to heaven could he just have been one of those warehouse pastors that had maybe 50 maybe a 100 people in his church if he hadn’t moved into breaking the ceiling in his life?
Dave: Sid he could. No I’ve blazed a trail through most of the countries through America preached in so many churches like that you know. And if the devil will come sometimes and give the pastor such a beating that he’ll begin to gravitate towards the flesh and finally create a comfort zone for people and kind of babysit them through their life and doesn’t cause any waves there kind of a user friendly church you know just to keep them all happy in the flesh and babysit them until they go to heaven. Thank God for His mercy and grace you know for those that are saved that He is able to take to heaven. But I can tell you this Sid especially in that fasting series we’ve been talking about, that if you are caught in a trap like and you’re hungry to feed your spirit and you want to know how to break out of it. You know this is what’s taking me 27 years to learn and I’m in prime now I rejoice when somebody shows me their destiny when in a short time they take the harvest. I just rejoice absolutely and to answer your question yes this pastor Sid he could have stayed there but because he was hungry I believe that God had him cross our path because he wanted more just like that everyone that’s listening to the broadcast is crossing our path Sid because they’re hungry.
Sid: What about someone that’s been working most of their life that’s been a believer going to church know that there’s something more but has never got beyond the milk stage. And most of his life is almost over is it too late for that person?
Dave: You know I asked God that question and He answered me back and said “Are they still breathing?” (Laughing) And I said “Yes.” And then He said “Then there is hope.” As you get into this you start walking in the Spirit like we’ve been teaching it takes a very short time Sid to redeem what you’ve lost and begin to walk in His power. In fact He’s had me tell several people you know up in their 60’s some in their 70’s even that if they get into this and some of them have that they can do more in the few years that’s left than all of the years that they’ve thrown away. Yes there’s great hope, great great hope.
Sid: Dave in your own ministry.
Dave: Yes Sir.
Sid: As a result of learning how to move in the Spirit and not be held to those ceiling levels by the flesh have you’ve seen an increase of the miraculous?
Dave: (Laughing) Oh yes the meeting that I just had not long ago in India had half a million people present and Sid one last prayer 5,000 peoples teeth was filled with gold at the moment of prayer. Not counting the blind and the lame that walked that night and 200,000 people were born again because when the teeth started filling up with gold and silver where big rotten cavities were seconds before. Many of them began to scream and so these lost people began to gather around them and look into their mouths and they could see what was happening. And so it resulted in 200,000 being born again.
Sid: If that…if you have reports like this outside of the United States are you seeing anything in the United States as far as the miraculous?
Dave: (Laughing) Just 6 months ago in Palm Springs I was there with Norvel Hayes and Tim Story and there was a doctor there too Dr. Shaw. And a woman’s teeth was filled with silver and gold just right there on the spot and so Brother Norvel said “Let me see it” and he went over and looked into their mouth and Tim Story said “Let me see it.” And he ran over and looked and then the doctor examined her. And then we went on to Seattle and we went on television there and a woman’s teeth were filled and they zoomed in on her with the camera and not only those kind of miracles. And the last meeting I had last week 30 or 40 people’s eyes were healed Sid just 1 move of the Spirit.
Sid: Dave right at this moment would you pray for miracles for our listeners?
Dave: Oh yes, heavenly Father everyone that is hearing this right now any kind of pain that’s in their body I take absolute authority over it now. And Jesus that same life that’s in You I think that it’s in me and it’s in them and Father every pain causing disease I speak to it in the name of Jesus to be healed. And Father any hurts, any inner healing where people’s emotions have been destroyed I thank You for the flood gates opening of your grace and mercy and healings. I speak peace Father and I command all torment to leave. Move by the power of Your Holy Spirit for it. I give You all the praise, the honor and the glory be healed in Jesus name.
Sid: And Dave was praying I heard cancer I command in the name of Jesus spirits of cancer to cease and desist there work and to get off of God’s people now in Yeshua’s name. I just feel it lifting off of people right now. And would you pray for gold teeth?
Dave: Oh yes, Father thank You for the workings of absolute miracles. Every rotten cavity, every crooked teeth, every tender nerve, every gum, every TMJ Jaw in Jesus mighty name I speak a creative miracle. I command those teeth to be filled with silver and gold to be restored within them. All gum diseases to be healed and all bone related problems in Jesus mighty name.
SID: Hello. Sid Roth here. Welcome. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. I have a friend that is a renowned prophet that is now in Heaven, and this is what I heard him say. A billion souls are going to come to the Lord. It won’t be when I’m here, but I’ll see it from Heaven and there will be millions, especially young people, that will need deliverance. Why will they need deliverance? It’s going to be because so many forbidden doors have been opened because of sin and especially sexual sin, pornography, so many open doors that need to be closed. And the average pastor isn’t even equipped to handle these people that are going to need these things. But my guest had a revelation from God on how to do it and it’s so simple. It’s unbelievably simple and you can do it for yourself, and you can do it for the thousands, and I say thousands that are going to be lined up at your door. You know, we humans are such complex people and you read the Bible. However, sometimes it’s not working the way the simple truth says. So if there’s nothing wrong with God it gives us only one other person to ask a question about. And that’s why so many believers get stuck and never go forward with God because they’ve got these doors that are closed over problems that are never opened, and they go five years, ten years, 20 years. Give me an example of some of the areas that might be symptomatic of problems.
DENNIS: Trauma, people, low grade anxiety where they feel like I know I’m a spirit-filled believer. I’ve moved in the gifts of the Spirit, but I feel anxious most of the time. There’s a serious door that needs to be shut there because anxiety is not walking with the Lord. There’s also apprehension about making decisions. There’s pet peeves even, believe it or not, can be an indication of a door that needs shut, over-reaction to mild stimulation. Something goes wrong and you just blow up.
SID: You know, a statement you made that I know is so true, Dennis, is 80 percent of the people, if they can just close those doors, if they just close it they don’t have to do the classic I command this demon to leave. The demons don’t want to stay. They just leave on their own, 80 percent.
DENNIS: Eighty percent. When we taught people how to close the doors, that was the first indication. All of a sudden, and in some cases they didn’t even know it was demonic, but they would say, “I feel lighter, something lifted, wow, that was great ministry. I don’t understand it, but I know I’m better,” and they will see the residual fruit of freedom after the ministry session. That’s the significance of closing a door.
SID: Okay. How did you first learn, because it’s so simple. But you know what, Jesus said you have to become like a little child to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. So if it’s not simple, it’s not God.
DENNIS: Well I was a baby Christian with a dramatic baptism in the Holy Spirit. They wanted to put me on TV and radio and just talk about my baptism in the Holy Spirit. Well I got my first opportunity to speak to a small group. And they said, “Dennis, just share your testimony.” I walked up there knowing that I was called to preach. I knew that from the time that I was saved that that was my calling. And I looked out and there probably weren’t any more than 40 people, and I felt ashamed, had what they would probably call stage fright, and I actually walked off the stage, and the worship leader had to do her testimony because they didn’t know what to do now that Dennis walked off.
SID: They had a peace, such a stronghold. So what did you do about it?
DENNIS: I went home.
SID: You know what a lot of people do? They’ll just never speak again and miss their destiny.
DENNIS: Exactly. I went home and I said, I’m just a young Christian, maybe six months old in the Lord, eight months old. I knelt down by the side of a couch and I said, “God, what is wrong with me? If I’m called to preach I can’t do that. What just happened to me, I don’t understand.” And I closed my eyes and the first thing I saw in my mind’s eye, I saw myself when I was a nine-year-old bed-wetter and I pictured myself with clenched fists, hating myself, and I was enough of a Christian to know, gee, you don’t hate people, you certainly aren’t allowed to hate yourself. And I saw that I received down in my belly, down in the gut, I received forgiveness for self-hatred and instantly there was in my mind’s eye and simultaneously what was going on in my mind’s eye, I felt a lifting and it was in my mind’s eye a slimy stocking mask. I don’t know how else to explain it, like a burglar would wear in a stick-up, and it was a slimy stocking mask, and its name was “Shame”, and it was lifting off of me. And while I was watching it lift off me in my mind’s eye I felt the lightness of it. And the shame literally had the open door of self-hatred in my life. I didn’t know it was there. That was something that I had as a kid.
SID: When it was gone, how did you change?
DENNIS: Oh this is remarkable. From walking off the stage, would you know God had orchestrated so that the very next day they said, “Dennis, we want you to speak in front of the whole church your testimony.” And I’m going, haven’t you heard? I have a track record here. But anyway, I walked up there and I stood by a pulpit and it was, I felt like a cowboy in a saddle. It was like this where I belong. I like me, but it was a God confidence.
SID: Okay. You, too, had equipped literally thousands of people to be free from insomnia, so many different areas. And it’s so simple and so easy. As a matter of fact, Dr. Jennifer Clark actually got physically healed when she learned how to close these doors. I want to find out about it. Be right back.
SID: Now I’m excited about your book because people will know longer have normal days. They’re going to be supernatural days. You tell me you’re so excited when you wake up in the morning and you get to talk to your friend the Holy Spirit.
SID: But this is happening to people all over the world. Tell me about a woman who started reading your book.
ALISS: Yes. This is a woman, she did not know anything about Jesus. She had been in bed virtually the whole time for ten years, apparently, and she was suffering from a condition called MA, which is like chronic fatigue, in pain, lots of tiredness. And a friend of hers gave her my book, “The Normal Supernatural Christian Life” and she goes to bed that night. She starts to read it. It has a lot of different chapters, a lot of different things, the Holy Spirit, healing. She gets to the chapter on demons and as she’s reading the chapter on demons, some demons begin to manifest. Something starts to happen and she’s like, she’s thinking, I’ve got to keep reading to find out what to do about these demons. Anyway, they start manifesting and she reads what to do. So she says, you know, “In Jesus name.” She didn’t even know Jesus at that point. But she says, “In Jesus’ name leave me now.” She read what to do. And as she said that, in the middle of the night these demons left her and she realized she was completely well, so she—
SID: Ten years in bed? Wow.
ALISS: Yes. So then she actually, she gets up that morning. She hardly slept because she had been reading my book all night. She then comes into our shop the next morning, I just happen to be in there, and she starts telling what had just happened. And she said, “For these ten years I’ve hardly been into the city center because I [can’t] get there.” It was only two miles away from where she lived. But she said, she told me what had just happened to her, “I want to give my life to Jesus. What do I need to do?” So I just told her about Jesus and she gave her life to Jesus. Amazing.
SID: You don’t believe in normal things, do you?
ALISS: No. That would be boring.
SID: Okay. But guess what? You don’t stay constant when you know God. You go from Glory, that’s being in the presence of God, to Glory, being in more presence of God, to Glory, being even in more presence of God. You even are starting to tell people exact dates that prophetic things are going to happen. Give me an example.
ALISS: Yes. It’s powerful. When you prophesy to somebody often you can give a date or a length of time and it will happen as you speak it out. I met this lady who I had never seen before and I really felt like the Lord wanted me to speak to her and prophesy to her. Now what happens very often with me is I don’t know what I’m going to say until actually I open my mouth. And even I just felt like I needed to prophesy.
SID: And you know what? There are a lot of people like that that are watching us, but you’re not opening your mouth.
ALISS: I know.
SID: And that’s why the prophetic isn’t coming out. There is a faith dimension, but go ahead.
ALISS: Yes. It’s really scary. I’m scared every time, but I just think, well, I’m going to give it a go. So I went up to her and I said, “Excuse me,” I said, “I’ve got a message for you from God. Do you want to hear it?” That’s what I said. I don’t always say that, but I said it to her that day. Now at that point I still didn’t have a message. So she says to me, “Yeah, okay. Tell me what it is.” She knew nothing about God, but as I start to open my mouth it comes out, and I said, “You’ve been going through a terrible time for about two years. You can’t even sleep at night. You’re in such a bad way. You’ve got all this anxiety. You don’t know what’s going to happen.” But I said, “You’ve been crying out and you said, God, if you’re real I need a miracle.” And so I said to her, “I’ve come to tell you that God is real. He’s heard your cries and you’re going to have a miracle.” I said, “But what he wants you to know is when you give your life to him completely within two weeks everything is going to turn around for you.” Now as I’m saying this, she’s crying. So I said, she says, “Everything you said is true. I’m on tranquilizers. I’m about to lose my home. The whole family is against me.” She was going through such a terrible time. She really had been crying out to God. So anyhow, I tell her about Jesus. She gives her life to Jesus and within two weeks everything completely transformed just like I prophesied to her and it was just incredible what God did in her life.
SID: God has given you another paradigm for revival. You used to pray, pray, pray, God send revival, God, send revival. God, are you there? Send revival. But God has shown you it’s a little different. Explain.
ALISS: Yes. After praying, and it’s not wrong to pray for revival, but I realized that actually Jesus has already been and just for me to start revival everywhere I go, because he lives on the inside of me. I’ve got the whole of the Kingdom of Heaven on the inside of me. So I can start revival everywhere I go. That’s what I realized. And as soon as I came to that realization then revival did begin to happen, and it’s not just in a shop or in a café, but literally everywhere I go.
SID: That’s wonderful that you can do it. But can everyone watching us now do this?
ALISS: Yes, definitely. And that is why I love to tell people that this is for everyone. If I can live like this then so can you because this really is for everybody everywhere. Jesus died for everybody and you can have the Kingdom of Heaven on the inside of you. You can have the Holy Spirit on the inside of you and release it. It’s just stepping out on faith and boldness, and courage. And can I release that to your audience?
SID: Please. That was the next thing I was going to say. You must be prophetic.
ALISS: I just felt the Holy Spirit tell me that people watching this show are going to be activated right now. So I want to release that supernatural faith. That’s one thing the Lord Jesus wants you to do is to release supernatural faith and to activate people in the miraculous in healing and in the whole supernatural realm of Heaven. So I release that for you now and I want to give you some homework if that’s okay, that I would ask you to step out in faith. In fact right now, I ask the Holy Spirit that you would come into that person’s room, for all of those watching that something is going to happen tangible right now wherever you are, whether it’s a healing. I release that now for you, healing in Jesus’ name or whether some kind of manifestation of the Holy Spirit that you really sense the presence of Jesus right now and that he’s going to tell you something, and then you need to step out in faith and go activate the whole miraculous realm in your life that you would do it today, let’s say by the end of tomorrow, in the name of Jesus.
SID: And if Jesus is not yet your Lord, what are you waiting for? Tell him you’re sorry for every wrong thing you’ve done. Believe the blood of Jesus washes you clean and now ask Jesus to live inside and say with your mouth, Jesus, you are my Lord. I’m listening.
SID: I just can’t imagine this. You’re just driving along and were you stopped for a light or a stop sign, and this man opens your car door and jumps in. Were you stopped?
ALISS: Well what happened was I was actually taking my daughter to work and she jumped out in the car park, the parking lot, she jumps out, closes the passenger door and I’m just reversing my car when this random man I’ve never seen in my life before opens the passenger seat and jumps in, and closes it behind him. And he looks at me, and he says, “You are beautiful.” And I thought, well that doesn’t happen every day. I was stunned. I was just so shocked. I was not expecting that. And I’m just sitting there, and so basically I just looked at him and I didn’t even say a word, but I just turned to him when I looked at him, and without a saying anything, he just starts to, actually starts to tremble in my car. And then before I knew it he starts crying and he says, “I’m so sorry. I’m really sorry. I’m so sorry. I’m so sorry.” He keeps apologizing. He says, “I got into your car with bad motives in my heart, impure motives in my heart,” and he’s saying, “I’m sorry, I’m sorry, I’m really bad, I’m really bad, please help me, please help me. I need God, I need God, I need God.” I look at him and I’m like, I said, “I’m a Christian minister.” And he’s like, “I didn’t know that.” It was just the atmosphere, I guess, because I didn’t have any Christian music on. I wasn’t speaking in tongues. I was just sitting there, you know. And all; I could think is that it was just, it was the presence of Jesus, the Holy Spirit just coming, emulating from me that he just got into the atmosphere and he starts confessing his sin. So I said, “Do you really want to know God?” He says, “Yes, I really want to know God. I’ve been wanting to for so long. Can you help me with that?” And I said yes. So I just told him about Jesus and we grabbed hands, and he’s given his life to Jesus. He’s crying. He’s saying, “Lord, please forgive me for my sin.” Twenty minutes later, we’re still there. My daughter is knocking on the window because she had seen that I was still there, and she says, “Mommy, are you okay?” And I was like, “Yeah, yeah. He’s just giving his life to Jesus.” She says, “Oh that’s fine.” And she goes back into work.
SID: Now it sounds like you don’t have, she doesn’t have ordinary days. I know her secret. I want you to find out her secret. Why? So you’re not going to have ordinary days. You, just as a young girl, you started a very special relationship with Holy Spirit. Tell me what your relationship with Holy Spirit is now.
ALISS: Well we’re very close, really close. You know, the Holy Spirit is a person. He’s God and but he’s also my best friend and he talks to me, and we have fun together.
SID: Now when he talks to you, is it inner thoughts or is it an audible voice?
ALISS: Oh all sorts of ways.
ALISS: And he’s, it’s like it changes. There’s so much to God. He’s so many facets to God, and sometimes he will show me things. Like first thing in the morning as soon as I wake up, I just talk to him and he’s like he’s waiting for me, and even while I’m sleeping.
SID: Are you excited to talk to him first thing in the morning?
ALISS: Oh yeah, I love him. It’s like being in love. It just feels like being in love.
SID: Is he as much in love with you as you are with him?
ALISS: Yes. Yes. And he just tells me that he loves me and I say, well I love you, too. And sometimes I really feel his presence, you know, especially when I’m talking to him and I’m like, “O Holy Spirit, I love you so much.” And I really feel like the manifest presence of Jesus just coming in the room wherever I am. It doesn’t matter where I am.
SID: Okay. How can I know him? How can my friends watching now know him like you do?
ALISS: Well spend time with him and really cultivate the relationship. Like with any relationship you got to cultivate it. And so I talk to him all the time, like wherever I am I’m just chatting to him or I’m singing, or he’s singing to me, but also being obedient. If he says to you like, not to do something or not to say something, instantly, try and be obedient and not to do that or if he says do this and do that. And I just find that it just cultivates that relationship and he loves that.
SID: Something that you talk about, the average person is very, almost afraid of. You talk about, you had a dream about demons. I mean, people, polite people don’t even believe in them let alone talk about them. What happened in your dream?
ALISS: Well this was a while ago. And I was having a few dreams actually and it seemed to be recurring dreams where I would be dreaming, like these scary looking monsters would be chasing me and it would be in houses and there would be lots of stairs, and I was trying to run away from these scary looking creatures and trying to escape out the windows or whatever. And after a while having these dreams, I thought, I think that’s kind of a spiritual thing going on. So next time I said, “Lord, can you help me in my dreams.” So the next dream I had, in my dream, instead of running away, I was actually, I stood my ground. And then the dream after that I was facing these demonic looking creatures, and then the next dream I’m actually chasing them and I’ve got this big sword, and I’m coming at them, and I’m chasing them through these dark places, and they’re screaming. And then I’m lopping their heads off and everything.
SID: They’re very afraid of you.
ALISS: Yes. Well it’s Jesus they’re afraid of actually, but yes, he’s in me.
SID: Okay. So how does this play out in your life?
ALISS: Well just what I realized from the dreams was the Lord was teaching me that in everyday life that we have authority over the demonic. Jesus says he gives us all authority.
SID: You say get used to casting out demons.
SID: What do you mean by that?
ALISS: It’s just part of everyday life, like you don’t have to go into a special place to help somebody get free. But yeah, demons, they often will sort of pop out of people just when you go near them because of the presence of Jesus that you carry when you follow Jesus.
SID: Okay. Well your gifts, it seems as though they’re, you’re not static. They keep growing and growing. You even have been able to predict exact dates that something happens. I’ll have her share that when we come back.
SID: Okay. We settled it. We settled that it’s never too late.
SID: Whatever your age. I’ve got to tell you this, John. I am 76 years of age and do you know I am just walking into my destiny. So give me a break if you’re 50 or 60. You know what I’m saying?
JOHN: Come on. I love it.
SID: All right. So how does, the big question really that people are asking as they’re watching us is how do I know my call?
JOHN: Okay. So first of all, I’ve got to get, I want everybody on the same page. God has a calling on your life whether it’s ministry or whether you are called to the marketplace, or whether you’re called to be a stay home mom and raise up champions. There is a Divine calling on your life. Every one of us have it and God prepared that calling for your life before you were born. Let me give you an example of another one that’s just mind blowing. I had dinner. This man wanted to have dinner with me last year. Well he’s a Navy SEAL instructor. Okay. That’s the elite of the elite when you’re an instructor. He went to two years of Bible school, was in his third year of internship, got accused of sleeping with a girl in the church. They threw him out, took away everything from him. He said, “John, three years of work gone.” He said, “My relationship with Jesus was superficial. He said, “I was saved, but it was superficial.” He said, “When I lost everything after three years of work, I started seeking God like I had never sought him before.” And he said, “God spoke to me and [said] I’ve called you to the military, not to ministry.” He said, “So I went to the Army, I went to the Air Force, I went to the Marines.” He said, “Nothing.” He said, “I went to the Navy, the last one. The recruiter has gone [through] everything. Nothing. Just flat.” So the recruiter in desperation brings out the special things. He starts reading down the special assignments and he gets to the word “SEALS” and he goes, “That’s it. That’s what I’m supposed to do.” And the guy goes, “No, no, no, no. Only .1 percent of them ever make it All of us flunked out of it. And he goes, “I don’t care. That’s what I’m supposed to do.” Well what a recruiter didn’t know and he didn’t know is he didn’t know how to swim. Secondly, he had such narrow ear openings they had to put tubes in his ears when he was a child. So if he went and had a little bit of water in his ears he was in excruciating pain.
SID: He couldn’t be a SEAL. It was impossible.
JOHN: He taught himself how to swim. He kept praying for God to heal his ears. He finally went two feet, five feet, ten feet, he was fine. The whole story is amazing. But he told me stories of combat that night at dinner, and which literally caused the hair on my arm to stand up. I mean, his phone called his parents when they were getting their truck blown up and the parents prayed. I could go and on, and on with other stories. Anyway, how do we know our calling?
SID: Give us some tips.
JOHN: There’s three very strong points made in Scripture on how we find out our calling. Number one, we seek God earnestly. The Bible says in Hebrews 11:6 that “God rewards those who diligently seek him in faith.” It does not say he rewards those who casually seek him in wonder and doubt. When I got saved I was heading, I was going to head to Harvard and get my M.B.A. with my engineering degree from Purdue, and I was going to become a corporate manager, and I was going to marry a pretty girl, take three vacations a year, and pay my tithes. That would be my way of serving God. But I knew there was something not right. And I remember my Thanksgiving vacation my senior year. All my fraternity brothers went home. I told my mom I’m not coming home for Thanksgiving. And I fasted those four days, and I said, God, I got to know what you put me on this earth to do. And as a result of that fast, the last thing I wanted to do was to be in ministry. I wanted nothing to do with ministry. But God showed me clearly, I’ve called you to preach. What are you going to do about it? And I remember surrendering in that fraternity, and I said, God, I’ll do it. The second way you find your calling is you get planted in the House of God. You get planted.
SID: Today, more and more people are saying church isn’t relevant to me, I don’t need to go unless you’re a part of the body.
JOHN: Right. God says, “Those who are planted,” Psalm 90, “Those who are planted in the House of God shall flourish in the courts of our God.” The courts of our God would be the judgment seat of Christ. So let me put it to you this way. If I have a peach seed, I may not know that’s a peach seed. How do I find out what it is? Plant it in the ground. It will grow up to what it was created to be. Hello, if I plant a peach seed I don’t get a cotton bush. I get a peach tree. When we’re planted in the House of God we flourish into what we’re created to do, whether it’s in the marketplace, whether it’s staying at home as a mom, whether it’s in the medical field, whether it’s in government, whether it’s in ministry, that’s where we flourish in the courts of our God. And the third way to know our calling is to avoid entanglements. Why are many called and why are only few chosen? We’re all called. Every one watching us is called. Why are only a few ending up fulfilling their destiny? Because only few will put aside the entanglements, security, money and relationships are the three biggest, to fulfill our destiny. If you look at Moses, Moses was one of the greatest pastors we’ve ever seen. He had over three million in his congregation, but he only had two guys in his whole church fulfill their destiny.
SID: I want the full reward. You want the full reward. Would you pray a supernatural prayer right now that we have the full reward?
JOHN: Father, I pray for every single person watching right now under the sound of my voice, I ask that the Holy Spirit would literally come into the living room, the office. No matter where these men and women are watching, or children, I’m asking that your presence would come. And I pray in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ for clarity to come to you, for direction to come to you. Before you were born God created you and also placed a calling upon your life. I speak that calling forth. I command in the name of Jesus for the revelation of that calling to come forth in your life and in Jesus’ name I pray, Father, for every person that they would lay aside the hindrances, the entanglements that they would plant themselves in the local church and that they would seek you diligently. And as they do, Father, reveal to them why they’ve put on this earth that they might make their eternity much more precious in your eyes, in Jesus’ name. Amen.
SID: And I say at Academy Rewards Night you will get a full reward.